Kushman's Strawberry Cough Clone

[TickleMyBalls]

Rez, those pics look exactly like the pheno that I've got of strawberry d. Does she stretch much? My strawberry d is probably the stretchiest plant in my garden. Nice yielder though with pretty spears. I really can't detect much of the diesel in her though. I pollinated some preflowers awhile back with some doubledog pollen and I've got one strawberry d x doubledog at just over a week of flower. It's looking good but I don't have any seeds left of the cross, I do have a couple clones thank God.

Okay, this says it all... Anyone who has grown the KKSC for any amount of time can recognize the dry nugs/plant/aroma/anything about it from across a football field. That Picture IS NOT the original cut. No main cola would grow like that in a perfect environment. I've been smoking the strain for 5 years and i've never gotten a bag of spear shaped nugs, and I've been growing it for almost 2 years. REZ, just admit that you mixed it up and thats a Strawberry Deez plant.

 

[REZDOG]

Sorry,it IS The KKSC Clone....I guess I just have the magic touch'....

 

[Guest]

awesome pics rez!

 

[Guest]

Show us the full plant Rez...

 

[TickleMyBalls]

Sorry,it IS The KKSC Clone....I guess I just have the magic touch'....

That is one mutant cutting then. I'd like to see a pic of the whole plant to compare the rest of the nugs, also, what day of flower approximately is that? looks to be around 45 to me?? maybe 50.

it does look like a beautiful plant and very healthy, just not like any Strawberry Cough plant I have ever seen. cept with those DP seeds, seen pics of some spears, but I know you have the Cough cause I've seen you post pics of it before. this just seems like a simple mislabeling.

 

[c2ccCaptChronic]

It looks like strawberry diesel to me. That bud structure shouts out sour diesel.

 

[Crazy Composer]

That's the SC clone.

Every garden is different. Anyone with sufficient gardening knowledge will tell you there's no point in trying to verify a strain by a picture, anyone who feels absolutely confident is fooling themselves. I write the Strain of the Month column for HEADS Magazine, it's my job to know the differences in strains and I have lots of experience in doing so. However, even this experience isn't enough for me (or anyone who cares to be accurate) to say one way or the other what a strain is, just by looking at a picture.

I've grown and written about this strain many times. This looks JUST like my own grows of dialed in SC, but not at all like the less than perfect grows I've seen. It's the same with any strain, they react differently to different conditions. In the winter my SC grows were spectacular, and looked just like this one, but in the summer, when things are harder to keep dialed in, they yielded much less and didn't look quite the same. Less experienced growers would conclude it wasn't the same clone, but that's just inexperience coupled with a desire to be heard.

I've smoked this clone from Rez' own garden, and it IS the KKSC clone. Although the bulbous calyx structure appears similar to the calyx structure of Diesel, I assure you this happens to almost any strain that's provided with constantly dialed in conditions, and is allowed to mature. Personally, I see no tangeable resemblance to the Diesels, other than having trichomes, calyxes, leaves and pistils. This simply looks like any well-grown pot. And DAYUM is that a nice picture!

cc

 

[KISE1]

Also if you grow the same cut in soil and then hydro or organic then chemical, they'll all look completely different. I use guano and mollasses and my buds always look way different than most other peoples'.

 

[beancounter]

I agree 100% crazy composer, different conditions and enviros can have a big affect on outward appearance, some clones are more supseptible to this than others..

A full plant shot would likely shed some more light on this debate, it's very hard to judge any plant off a cola shot or 2.

 

[Chili_berkster]

heh , CC... the great Kahli could come on these boards and say its KKSC. I'll still call Bullshit! Y'all can beat me down about lack of experience and unperfect environment all you want. Fact is, plants dont change that much from environmental conditions. Sure they may grow a bit different or yield more here and less there or stuff like that. But to change the manner in wich it produces colas? If rez's cut he showed was same as the one I know. It would look similar in some way. His dont that I can see. Oh except they both have leafs and calyxes and resin like CC said. Where is the full plant shot?
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KKSC grows these clubbish blocked stout roundish nuggs. The resination tends to stay on the bud and not venture outwards toward the leafs. It stays short, branches alot and never makes long spear colas. It has thick short pistils and reeks of strawberry's and haze. A nice cola of scough looks like several golfballs almost connected. LOL if rez grew it in his perfect environment it would make the same thing and look identical to the cough we have. . Not long spears.
So, to all a happy holiday. Even you rez.

 

[TickleMyBalls]

I'd like to bring up another dead giveaway why REZ's pic is NOT the KKSC. while observing my vegging cough plants I realized that the reason it grows round nugs is the fact that the branches grow so angular. the nodes ALWAYS grow close together and at a SHARP angle, especially in a "perfect environtment". No Strawberry Cough cola grows like a straight spear, because the plant DOES NOT grow like that. Show us the whole plant REZ. Show us your KKSC mom. Should look like the pic posted by Berkster. Notice how the nug is round, when you break it up, all of the stems zig zag at sharp angles. Tell me how a 10 year old Cut all of a sudden starts growing differently for one person??

 

[imnotcrazy]

Hey Rez, Forget the haters bro the fact that it put the Strawberry into the Strawberry Diesel should be proof enough. Hell, I switched to PBP nutes and over fed and my leggy White Rhinos wound up looking like compact indicas w/no branching or much verticle growth. After dialing in the nutes better they are taking off same as before. Newb or not people fuck up and make mistakes. How bout this, you live west coast and one clone never goes purple, move to Alaska and it goes purple. Does that mean somethin is wrong??? Not at all, the yeild and growth Rez has experienced is in the plant's genotype. You just get phenotypic variation between environments. Similar to kids. You could take a set of twins and split them up. If one kid goes to the loving family and one to a fam that beats the kid up. They grew up different but their genes are the same.......

 

[TickleMyBalls]

Hey Rez, Forget the haters bro the fact that it put the Strawberry into the Strawberry Diesel should be proof enough. Hell, I switched to PBP nutes and over fed and my leggy White Rhinos wound up looking like compact indicas w/no branching or much verticle growth. After dialing in the nutes better they are taking off same as before. Newb or not people fuck up and make mistakes. How bout this, you live west coast and one clone never goes purple, move to Alaska and it goes purple. Does that mean somethin is wrong??? Not at all, the yeild and growth Rez has experienced is in the plant's genotype. You just get phenotypic variation between environments. Similar to kids. You could take a set of twins and split them up. If one kid goes to the loving family and one to a fam that beats the kid up. They grew up different but their genes are the same.......

So how come every other "Master grower" with 20+ years under his belt that lives in a similar area to Rez and runs similar set ups get round nugs? all Rez has to say is that he made a mistake, instead all of these people come to his defense, even though they don't know what they're talking about. how is the fact that the SC is the mom of the Strawberry Diesel "proof enough" that the picture is of a KKSC cola? you make no sense. Just admit that it's the Straw Diesel and lets get this stupid thread out of here. Remember, Rez has had this cut for maybe a little over a year. Shit, I've had it longer, it's been in my area for 6 years. and tell me how it's possible to have "phenotypic variation" in a Clone? The Cough is the Cough is The Cough.

P.S. please don't get me banned, I'm just very passionate about this plant, as it has been my favorite herb for 5 years and was my main motivation to begin growing in the first place.

 

[Guest]

Phenotype is the physical outward expression of genes, so a plants appearance can be altered by environmental conditions, lighting etc. Not saying thatt this proves that it is a Scough plant, just that it could be.

guerilla

 

[TickleMyBalls]

Phenotype is the physical outward expression of genes, so a plants appearance can be altered by environmental conditions, lighting etc. Not saying thatt this proves that it is a Scough plant, just that it could be.

guerilla

But just because it looks different, doesn't mean it changes it's expression of genes... it's like the difference between a physical and chemical change in science...one alters the appearance, one alters the state of being. This thread is getting ridiculous.

 

[imnotcrazy]

Yeah and just cause you got a zit on you ass doesn't mean so either but you changed didn't you. I've seen a cut in different ops and they are a bit different EVERY time. I know the cuts were genetically the same cause I passed them around.. How do you know the man doesn't light his personal smoke w/4000W/plant. Anything is possible.......

 

[TickleMyBalls]

Yeah and just cause you got a zit on you ass doesn't mean so either but you changed didn't you. I've seen a cut in different ops and they are a bit different EVERY time. I know the cuts were genetically the same cause I passed them around.. How do you know the man doesn't light his personal smoke w/4000W/plant. Anything is possible.......

is it just me or do you still make no sense. I agree plants may look a BIT different, but it isn't gonna change the way the plant is genetically predisposed to grow... the SC always grows angular branches between the nodes..and round nugs.

 

[TickleMyBalls]

I disagree with you TMB. I have seen various shapes of buds onthe same plant even. IMO Round or spear shapes are primarily determined by the distrubution of growth hormones (i.e. auxins, etc). Many variables have an effect on the structure of buds.

I highly doubt Kushman would have given Rez a cut of something else and told him it was SC.

Also another point. The same cut kept by different people can be different due to genetic drift. The conditions under which mother plants are kept (and also simply time) will effect the genetics. There is always a degree of genetic drift caused by mutations with any species, and over a long time period this can have noticeable effects.

- Ez

Okay, AGAIN. the debate is not that he is lying about having the cut. I know he has it. I've seen pictures of it. It's just specifically that picture... Unless you have experience growing this specific cut and smoking it from many different sources like I have, Berkster has, WallStreet Wook has and many others, then you aren't qualified to talk about how this plant grows. The Strawberry Cough is straight up the most consistant plant I've ever grown. It always grows exactly the same every time.

and also AGAIN Genetic drift would not account for the plant all of a sudden changing from growing close nodes with 45º angled branches to growing straight spear buds...I've never seen a cough branch grow straight up. theres always a zig zag. Why does everyone feel a need to jump on board and defend Rez's Mislabling a picture? Whether he'll admit it or not, people growing HIS strawberry diesel seeds said that his picture looked exactly like the plants from his beans. Geez, all this over a mistake that won't be admitted.

 

[Norcal Crypt]

I wanna see a shot of the whole plant......2 pages have gone by and no full body shot. I wonder, why?

 

[c2ccCaptChronic]

P.S. please don't get me banned, I'm just very passionate about this plant, as it has been my favorite herb for 5 years and was my main motivation to begin growing in the first place.

yea we better watch what we say.... I got in silenced before for "disagreeing" with rez. . I dont even bother anymore, rez is like hitler if he doesnt like you or if you dont kiss his ass like the rest of these people lol.