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Old Fogey

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Hello everyone!They write about this on page 113 of this branch and the bunica user writes on page 109 that he transferred the plant to 11/13 flowering!That's why I'm asking about it, but there's no information anywhere.
Sure, flowering at 11/13 is common and is in fact recommended for some Ace strains.

Sometimes people will say transferring to 12/12 meaning a hard flip to flowering. I think one of the posts on page 113 does this immediately prior to talking about their plant being on 11/13. So I can see why you may be confused.

In my opinion, the NL/Malawi pheno KA5H can be successfully flowered at and between 12/12 and 11/13.

I actually set my timer for 2 minutes short of the target day length. So, I use 11:58on/12:02off or 11:28on/12:32off or 10:58on/13:02 off. It's where I landed after several experiments with daylight hours a few minutes short of the hour, inspired by advice from breeder DJ Short in an article I read about 10 years ago.

Peace
 

DrPuff

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Sure, flowering at 11/13 is common and is in fact recommended for some Ace strains.

Sometimes people will say transferring to 12/12 meaning a hard flip to flowering. I think one of the posts on page 113 does this immediately prior to talking about their plant being on 11/13. So I can see why you may be confused.

In my opinion, the NL/Malawi pheno KA5H can be successfully flowered at and between 12/12 and 11/13.

I actually set my timer for 2 minutes short of the target day length. So, I use 11:58on/12:02off or 11:28on/12:32off or 10:58on/13:02 off. It's where I landed after several experiments with daylight hours a few minutes short of the hour, inspired by advice from breeder DJ Short in an article I read about 10 years ago.

Peace
thank you!Could you give me a link to DJ Short's article, it will be very interesting to read it!Thanks again for the helpful information!
 

Old Fogey

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thank you!Could you give me a link to DJ Short's article, it will be very interesting to read it!Thanks again for the helpful information!
There are various collections online of DJ Short articles and interviews. I can't remember where I found the particular interview, but you should be able to find it fairly easily.

DJ can be a teaser with his advice. He recommends experimenting with daylight times a few minutes short of the hour without saying exactly what regimen he uses himself.

Anyway, I ran at 5 minutes short (11:55on/12:05off) a couple of times for no discernable difference in health or yield. I then tried 3 minutes short (11:57on/12:03off) a few times and noticed a marginal improvement.

Finally I tried 2 minutes short of the hour (11:58on/12:02off) and it seemed to have a noticable effect on overall flowering health and yield. I've stuck with 2 minutes short of the usual and various daytime targets ever since.

Peace
 

splinter7

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Hello everyone!They write about this on page 113 of this branch and the bunica user writes on page 109 that he transferred the plant to 11/13 flowering!That's why I'm asking about it, but there's no information anywhere.

i've lessened the amount of time with light to speed up the flowering maturation on slower plants. it worked. increasing the time with light can cause nanners, but it can be used in very late flower to increase yield.
 

Old Fogey

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They look better each run. Really green for a plant in late flowering. How long do you want to take her ?
I think it will go 78-80 days this time. I took the previous clone at 82 days so we shall see.

This run has had its moments. Rough handling early in flower really hurt her, two nute/grower mistakes and a power outage one day a little over a week ago that cost the first 7hrs of light time. I haven't noticed any ill effects from the outage, no nanas etc ... she's a champion.

I've used Canna Coco for the whole grow this time and the plant loves it. I also cut the dosage on the seaweed resinator I use to 40% of the amount used last time, which overall is 1/3rd of the recommended rate.

I dropped the EC from 1.7 to 1.2 on Day 60 after a scheduled light flush and the plant has been fading nicely. And damaged leaf has improved or at least not worsened since the nute injuries.

Below you will see evidence of the mistakes and calamities of the past 9 weeks and also the natural fade even though I'm still feeding her.

Peace


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Old Fogey

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what am I doing wrong? i am at f91 and it's almost all white hairs. especially on the tops. i am thinking at least another 4 weeks.
Nothing is wrong, yours is just a longer flowering phenoype. Mine has many Northern Lights traits with Malawi influence. I did have a Lanky pheno that I never finished but I would have expected it to go 110+ days, 4+ weeks longer than my #2 plant.

KA5H - Lanky pheno ... she would have been a monster.
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Peace
 
Speaking of going a long time........I think even on 11/13 this could be a way over 12, looks like the haze dominant phenotype?

2nd picture looks like one of the Malawi leaning leaning phenos. (for reference Ive read a few internet posts...this is all guess work)
 

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splinter7

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Speaking of going a long time........I think even on 11/13 this could be a way over 12, looks like the haze dominant phenotype?

2nd picture looks like one of the Malawi leaning leaning phenos. (for reference Ive read a few internet posts...this is all guess work)

that is similar to mine. lets see if it makes huge connected buds like mine did. they are getting pretty heavy, but not really finishing like they should. i am still at 12/12. do i need to drop. it. i don't mind a big yield. i can't wait a month.
 
@splinter7 I dont think you need to drop it, Im sure like everything else in growing you would get more than one opinion on that. Ace do recommend a 11/13 light cycle. Some people (me this time) do this from the start, other people work up to it, starting at 12/12 and reducing daylight by 15 mins every week or so. I cant remember if its in this thread or the malawi x panama thread, where a guy worked all the way to 10/14, he finished a long flowering strain very quickly. When I get to week 10 or 11 I might reduce daylight further. If I were you I would go 13/11, but do some reading, there is bound to be other opinions out there.....
 

splinter7

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@splinter7
Are the bracts swelling ?
Are you feeding the plant nitrogen ?

I suggest you make it clear for her that the season is coming to an end.

- Reduce to 11/13.
- Lower the temps (25 celcius max during the day).
- Lower the RH as much as possible.
- Cut the nutes.
- Water minimally.

thanks. the bracts are swelling now a little. hairs are starting to turn a little. buds are getting weighty. the lowers are father along....i guess the light was too much. hard to believe. i run pretty low n in the end. i just give about 300 to 400 ppm maxi bloom with about 100 or so ppm of koolbloom liquid. they are exposed to outside temps slightly. it froze last week so the down to the 60s in the tent at some point. I would like to avoid the light change, but maybe it's inevitable.
 

FeelHaze

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splinter7

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Calyxes on the lowers have that Malawi look btw.

thanks dude. ya, that is what i was thinking. i also ran the malawi panama. i ran the panama last year and sort of saw the difference.the difference looks like this KA5. so, I guess its a malawi dom pheno. not sure that is good or not. i passed someone a cut in case i need it back.
 
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