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Kiffing....is it ethical?
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t hats taking things a lil far, i think if your the one taking the risk and you put up the money and your doing someone a favor(that could easily be a felony),i think they can do whatever they want to with the buds after all there are other dealers out there. Wether its shaken or not, its really the buyers responsibility to get himself a loop from radio shack and see whats going on with your buds. I dont condone shaking herb you know your going to sell people who are really counting on it to get high, altho i really dont think its as big a deal(the outer layer only has so much trihcomes most of the trichomes are inside anways), all you ahve to do is look at the bud for one second and you will know whats up. I carry aloupe in my car just for curiosity!
Now as far as trimming goes , its completely up to a simple question "do you wanna make hash or edibles or not?" if you do its pretty simple trim as much as you feel comfortable(thats a good general rule anyways) if you dont then leav em on w/e it dont really matter right?
ive notced people get very neurotic about their trichomes and get very irritated i fyou even "touch a live bud with your finger", or if you mishandle a dry bud (squeezing, cracking it to release odor), i myself am very relaxed as i know a good strain has billions of trichomes in every puff
Now as far as trimming goes , its completely up to a simple question "do you wanna make hash or edibles or not?" if you do its pretty simple trim as much as you feel comfortable(thats a good general rule anyways) if you dont then leav em on w/e it dont really matter right?
ive notced people get very neurotic about their trichomes and get very irritated i fyou even "touch a live bud with your finger", or if you mishandle a dry bud (squeezing, cracking it to release odor), i myself am very relaxed as i know a good strain has billions of trichomes in every puff
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Hey MI,
father and son toking...man that sounds kool.
Kiffing bud is not ethical, theres a special place in hell for those types of vendors, it involves being forced to toke spent vaporized mexi swag for the rest of eternity.
I'm very cheap with the scissors, i trim the leaf tip but if it is covered in trichomes I don't trim, I sell some of mine sometimes and I get no complaints, homegrown organic weed will beat ANY street weed by a mile, once in awhile my friends will smoke me on something I like but the taste is usually shit even if it is just as potent.
It's weird what people will do to weed, by accident I was sold weed laced with cocaine, I freaked out completely and thought long and hard about having his fucking legs broken, I've come across glass and hairspray on seperate occasions, that's I bring a scale and jewlers loupe to any purchase I make, that and I buy minimum an ouce now, usually it's much less damaged and cut.
The next step of course was to grow my own and you can't put a price on something you grow yourself.
I never find the density of the nug to have anything to do with the potency or the trichome content of bud, outdoor nugs are usually alot more airy then indoor and the same strain outdoors IMHO can be as good if not better, I'm not after smoking plant matter, I want thrichomes, that's why I consider the mark of a good strain to be it's yield in hash.
Made some dry sift kief yesterday, it was so good no wonder dealers rape their commercial bud.
Peace
S
father and son toking...man that sounds kool.
Kiffing bud is not ethical, theres a special place in hell for those types of vendors, it involves being forced to toke spent vaporized mexi swag for the rest of eternity.
I'm very cheap with the scissors, i trim the leaf tip but if it is covered in trichomes I don't trim, I sell some of mine sometimes and I get no complaints, homegrown organic weed will beat ANY street weed by a mile, once in awhile my friends will smoke me on something I like but the taste is usually shit even if it is just as potent.
It's weird what people will do to weed, by accident I was sold weed laced with cocaine, I freaked out completely and thought long and hard about having his fucking legs broken, I've come across glass and hairspray on seperate occasions, that's I bring a scale and jewlers loupe to any purchase I make, that and I buy minimum an ouce now, usually it's much less damaged and cut.
The next step of course was to grow my own and you can't put a price on something you grow yourself.
I never find the density of the nug to have anything to do with the potency or the trichome content of bud, outdoor nugs are usually alot more airy then indoor and the same strain outdoors IMHO can be as good if not better, I'm not after smoking plant matter, I want thrichomes, that's why I consider the mark of a good strain to be it's yield in hash.
Made some dry sift kief yesterday, it was so good no wonder dealers rape their commercial bud.
Peace
S
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nycdfan042 said:ive notced people get very neurotic about their trichomes and get very irritated i fyou even "touch a live bud with your finger", or if you mishandle a dry bud (squeezing, cracking it to release odor), i myself am very relaxed as i know a good strain has billions of trichomes in every puff
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J
Jack Crevalle
What? What the fuck? HE said his kid said his bud was leafy and he assumed his son's bud was kiefed. I doubt his son's bud was kiefed, I'd rather pay for a tumbled nug that weighs a gram than a leafy ass bud that weighs .5 after removing water leaf. I doubt his son would say that if he left on a few cristalized leaves, I believe he was talking about alot of extra leaf....that's all
Ok, here's a similar question,
Is it ethical to charge $50 for leafy bud?
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o.gkushowns
18 and Doh!
I don't mind when dealers do it cuz it's a black market and everything. But when a coffeeshop does it it really pisses me off cuz your not getting what your paying for. Basically I'm looking at the customer service aspect. If the menu says SagenSour than I expect sagensour as it came off the plant. If the dealer says here's some weed he's not really making any promises.
peace
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Truth
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40$ - 1/8th. Strain: Trinity
40$ - 1/8th. Strain: WR (not whole 1/8th shown in photo, was some gifted nugs)
Doesn't look powerful, and it is a bit more leafy than what I would usually accept (and pressed which was kind of odd), but this stuff is pure funk, funkier than most (and I've had a lot of popular strains), and very very potent.
the leafs are however, keeping in all the goodness, even when pressed, since the only trichomes you would lose would be the ones on the outer leafs. the outer surface trichomes are the ones that matter the most, not the inner surface trichomes.
trinity:
this is much 'frostier' looking bud (especially when the picture is at full size) and it is manicured quite well, but I would rather smoke that leafy stuff over this, because not only does it taste better, it is more potent.
WR:
plants can look very very frosty, but without the heads on the stalks, they lose significant potency, and they come over very very easily especially on dry bud.
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AKgrower
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when i was a kid (17-18) my friends dad used have us trim his crops. he would roll all his buds on this window pane and then scape off the crystals with a razor blade. he used to get golf ball sized hash balls(he grew alot of plants). i rember thinking what a dick.i think you can tell the difference between bud that has been handled to much and bud that has been kiffed, it gets that mottled look when kiffed. anyways death to the kiffers.
As "Growers" we know that all those secondary bud leaf are full of wonderful resin, and personally I keep it on the bud. I just find it tastes and burns better. Unfortunately those who buy the product don't think so and demand clean bud or a price cut. As far as Kiff'n bud, well it's over priced as it is and that's just wrong.
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Truth
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Black Ra1n said:
yeah the problem is they don't realize they lose potency on fully manicured bud. you'll see trichome stalks, but not the heads. and even most of the stalks would be damaged. now if bud was manicured, and placed into a jar immediately after, kept well and sold in that jar, then I could see it being fine. but once they put in in a plastic baggie and wrap it up, those trichomes and the potency is severely affected. oh yeah, it might still get them really high, but nowhere near it would if they hadn't lost all those trichomes.
Hello all,
Hey thanks for yor replies.
Well, I see some of you are are rather passionate about your opinions either way.
I am most fortunate that I am able to provide my own buds. And as I mentioned I trim but I am not fanatical about it....if the little leaf is frosted 2/3 of the lenght, I just snip the tips and of course the large fans. Any that are brown go of course.
Anyway, it seems to me that kiefing prior to sale is unethical on the principle of providing top product for top dollar. That said, I know nothing of how my son acquired the sack.
I will say also that the bud was indeed top shelf- I believe it to be a sativa dominate strain given the buzz and the taste and smell. It was good. Comparable to my own. I tend to the indica dominant strains.
As far as personal stash- thats up to the person. I smoke mine in a bong so I like to grind my buds.
Great grows to my fellow mj smokers, and don't forget to randomly turn someone on...good for the karma.
minds_I
PS: It was grown hydro....but smoked well.
Hey thanks for yor replies.
Well, I see some of you are are rather passionate about your opinions either way.
I am most fortunate that I am able to provide my own buds. And as I mentioned I trim but I am not fanatical about it....if the little leaf is frosted 2/3 of the lenght, I just snip the tips and of course the large fans. Any that are brown go of course.
Anyway, it seems to me that kiefing prior to sale is unethical on the principle of providing top product for top dollar. That said, I know nothing of how my son acquired the sack.
I will say also that the bud was indeed top shelf- I believe it to be a sativa dominate strain given the buzz and the taste and smell. It was good. Comparable to my own. I tend to the indica dominant strains.
As far as personal stash- thats up to the person. I smoke mine in a bong so I like to grind my buds.
Great grows to my fellow mj smokers, and don't forget to randomly turn someone on...good for the karma.
minds_I
PS: It was grown hydro....but smoked well.
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