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Kicking Caffeine

Douglas.Curtis

Autistic Diplomat in Training
Anyone else tried caffeine extracted from tea leaves and L-theanine together like the pills I make? I do not hear enough 'awesome' in the descriptions of your experiences. I hear mostly complaints.

Yerba Mata sounds closer, but I never cared for it personally when I tried it. Likely due to low quality products and not the plant itself.
 

RobFromTX

Well-known member
Sorry to hear about the trouble some people encounter with coffee consumption or abuse...
I'm pretty lucky (I guess) to enjoy any kind of coffee without any unpleasantries but I prefer from espresso up.
Nothing raise my moral better than a fresh cup in the morning either if I'm home, camping or in some forsaken place forgotten by the world. In the latter you really appreciate that cup... Preferably along with a blunt and followed by tobacco.
Only some service men really know the value of that. :good:
But my trick is to avoid repetition and alternate the use / frequency and combination of those, never quiting tobacco. :biggrin:
That's me and my vice and there is nothing anyone can do about. Please don't even try to argue that.

There are alternatives to coffee but depends on the personal taste or needs, tolerance or adversity to some compounds or taste, maybe the smell of it, physiological reaction, etc. (extra strong tea is laxative for me..)
Nowadays the science explain to us that caffeine and teine are the same chemical compound or they're still arguing about it while years back placed the caffeine, teine (tea), guaranine (guarana) and mateine (yerba mate) in the same subgroup of alkaloids called xanthines. So back then they were only four xantines, I don't know what happened lately...
I use Yerba Mate on regular basis and it's a great stimulant giving me (extra) energy without the arrhythmia induced by caffeine if abused. And I abuse them both! :LOL: Mate keeps me going like chewing coca leaves, without the euphoria.
I would use Guarana regularly but around here is unavailable at affordable price, so if you have it you should use it.
If you're not hooked (like me) on the taste and smell of coffee in the morning, or health issues force you to avoid it, you have alternatives (besides tea) in Yerba Mate or Guarana. The last one really smells and taste like a fruity tea. :tiphat:

Of course, I've mentioned only non euphoric central nervous system stimulants, and that's only my opinion based on personal experience. :2cents:
We had a soda in the states when i was a kid called Josta and it had guarana. Id drink that stuff all day. It had caffeine but i think the guaranas what made it great. Never understood why they took it off the market
 

xet

Active member
Yes - can lead to a VERY sore bottom - in some people - while others seem to have a ceramic ring-piece - and even after a Vindaloo - can function quite normally -
:eek: ceramic ring piece :ROFLMAO:

Oh, boy, Vindaloo ...

I went on a date one night and ordered the Green Vindaloo and asked for extra spicy.

It was so spicy my entire head of hair became soaking wet and pouring sweat like I had motor oil running through every square inch of my hair. The entire restaurant: 0.0 waiting for me to fall over stiff. Me: "I love this, this is why I am here. Do you want a bite."

I had to finish it out of posterity. I lost many taste buds that night.
 

piramidon

recidivist icmag - OUT-ist convins - microgrower
Veteran
Late thirties ('cause you laugh at age) to mid forties, 'cause that's the usual period when things start to go south for most folks.
:)
Thanks Doug', that's the nicest thing anyone said about me on icmag! :tiphat:
Just hope you won't feel silly if you missed like two decades. :LOL: I'm over fifty.
I'm only laughing at the irony of it, the age is real and I don't play the "fifty years old teenager", it's not in my book.
Maybe all the running, crawling, swimming, climbing, throwing, digging, cutting, and a whole other 'ing made me resilient.
I'm sure I'll reach the rock bottom like all the rest of us, only hoping for maximum velocity when that comes. 😉
I'm not flexing about, it's just who and what I am and if I get tired of something i just take a break or drop it like a bad habit.
This is a ptsd forum, yet I can't talk about anything. Ever. I don't have any access to the team that used to evaluate me.
Or any other professional for what matters...
So I cope any way I can and keep my hands and mind ocuppied, this way I keep myself alive, healthy and free.

p.s.
You can ask exploziv, the mod from Romanian forum about my age, he met me in my mid 40's in 2014.
 
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piramidon

recidivist icmag - OUT-ist convins - microgrower
Veteran
We had a soda in the states when i was a kid called Josta and it had guarana. Id drink that stuff all day. It had caffeine but i think the guaranas what made it great. Never understood why they took it off the market
Many top officials from the company and alike award themselfs with shares on coffee companies, maybe that's a reason?
 

Douglas.Curtis

Autistic Diplomat in Training
Sounds like you have eaten right and kept yourself fit very well. :) You definitely do not fit the typical Amurhikan health profile. lol Good job! :)

As for cayenne, it is avoid for the A blood type, and some of those who have a parent who was the A blood type. It is not digested properly and is still rather hot out the other end. lol This I know from research and personal experience. lolololol

:tiphat:
 

Cuddles

Well-known member
Yes - can lead to a VERY sore bottom - in some people - while others seem to have a ceramic ring-piece - and even after a Vindaloo - can function quite normally -
yep, too much of a good thing.... Funny, I don´t recall having those issues when I was growing up - ??? or maybe I´ve just forgotten. But I do know that when I eat too much and too often ... ziiiing!!! too bad because I do love spicy food!
 

RobFromTX

Well-known member
Sounds like you have eaten right and kept yourself fit very well. :) You definitely do not fit the typical Amurhikan health profile. lol Good job! :)

As for cayenne, it is avoid for the A blood type, and some of those who have a parent who was the A blood type. It is not digested properly and is still rather hot out the other end. lol This I know from research and personal experience. lolololol

:tiphat:
Yeah it does cause digestion issues. But it clears your allergies like nothing ive seen. I didnt know about A blood type. Whats up with that? Does it effect immune system?
 

xet

Active member
Many top officials from the company and alike award themselfs with shares on coffee companies, maybe that's a reason?
Perhaps.

In the 1990s the nation-state of Cameroon in Africa exported (not including total production) 156,000 tons of coffee per year. Today that amount is less than 25,000 tons per year. Constant civil war perhaps has much to do with this."It's not a civil war it's national divorce" says the CIA.
 

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