I actually am considering switching to a 315 for veg. They make a ballast and socket adapter that comes with a Phillips bulb for 159
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Keep my see 1k hps or switch to cmh???
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PurplePotion
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Looks solid man. Been following ya for a while as I’ve been building/working my way through my 1st grow in a longggg time. Clean setup; I’ve enjoyed seeing all the tweaks you’ve made in the process, I’m sure we can all relate (I know I can lol). I used the old 400w philips cmh with a mag hps ballast back in the day for a brief period of time in veg and loved it. Been on hiatus for 10 years and am amazed with how far the cmh tech has come. Currently running a 315 in veg, got it second hand with a ushio bulb and had good results first run of veg. Just put a new Philips 4200k bulb in and she seems to be doing great.. Flower room is se and de hps, but I am really interested in the new 630 and 1k cmh’s.
You ended up going with the 2 bulb versions right? Still not totally sold on this or the de version. What have you found your yield to be per table/light/whatever measurable metric now that you’ve had some time to dial it in?
You ended up going with the 2 bulb versions right? Still not totally sold on this or the de version. What have you found your yield to be per table/light/whatever measurable metric now that you’ve had some time to dial it in?
I went with the 2 bulb nano lux 630s. I liked it so much that I just hung a 3rd 630. Heatwise I am able to run all 3 lights and not have cooling issues. Yield wise I'm close to what I was pulling with a 1k give or take a couple oz. Quality wise it's better and has different smells and flavors than the 1k did. Per 3x3 my first run of glue under the cmh gave me well over a lb (721g). I still don't have my setup dialed in 100% because I'm always tweaking some aspect or trying new products.
PurplePotion
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Not too shabby. Buttttt I did just click on the link in your signature to your PP thread and saw you got 2.6 off of 1-1k se hps? Are the strains accounting for the lower yields or did ya forget about those monster yields with the hps? I’ll be honest, I don’t have numbers off my lights yet but I won’t be happy until I can pull at least 2 per 1k. Maybe I’m dreaming... time will tell lol.
Thanx Chunky for explanation... am was look those CMH1000W
bulb and she looks pretty fatty compared to Gavita 1000 DE HPS
bulb..
so i asking myself would this same bulb goes under Gavita HR 96 hood or i need another model of reflector so a bulb can sit inside
those holders??
Also problem we have in EU hydro shops is that they are not so
easy avaible as in the USA,think on those CMH1000W bulbs...
Some USA hydro shop need to open buiss in EU so we can be
supplayed properly with growing gear.. fuck not even Gavita
1650 ML LEDs are not possible to buy in EU.. need to order
everything overseas..
Kind regards Chunky,you really interested me with your claims so i wish to try this CMH1000 inside Gavita 1000 DE..
I havent given that strain a full run in a while. I didn't take those into account on my light to weight total. It's a very sativa cross and it didn't really sell as well as my cookies and others so she's been on the back burner. Ive got so many other fire strains to play with. Once I get this other tray up I'll be able to give it a go and see what it does under the cmh. But for now I'll keep playing with cookies.
Am like what CMH does to flowers.. those is some terpy goodies
that please lot more than HPS growed gear.. significant difference
that any can encounter..
before something simmilar i was sees when HPS and MH are
mixed together and there was really nice results.. but still
CMH is lot better than combo of HPS/MH..
Nice buds Sturgeongeneral
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PurplePotion
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The cookies are most definitely easy on the eyes. I want to play with some of these new strains so badly but I’m trying very hard to be patient and get the keeper Moby Dick I found this run dialed in and consistently cranking out some flower before I go dilly dallying with more seeds and strains hehe.
I am, however, seriously considering a tent or building a small room for a one light show for experimental purposes (led/cmh, 12/12 seed runs, vpd experiments, etc). Damn green crack herm’d one me 3.5weeks through this round. Letting the flowering girls finish, killed all the ones in veg and have been using optic foliar switch.. we will see. I might have a handful of seeds to experiment with though so that will be interesting. Unfortunately I don’t have the easiest access to genetics, however there’s a cup coming within driving distance that I’m thinking about attending solely for the purpose of finding some new genes.
Was going to run perpetual but with all of the problems I’ve encountered along the way and with some push from my experienced friend I decided against it. How do you deal with having all the different stages in flower in terms of feeds, etc? Do you have multiple reservoirs? How large of a veg space do you have/how much veg space is needed to fill each table/light?
I am, however, seriously considering a tent or building a small room for a one light show for experimental purposes (led/cmh, 12/12 seed runs, vpd experiments, etc). Damn green crack herm’d one me 3.5weeks through this round. Letting the flowering girls finish, killed all the ones in veg and have been using optic foliar switch.. we will see. I might have a handful of seeds to experiment with though so that will be interesting. Unfortunately I don’t have the easiest access to genetics, however there’s a cup coming within driving distance that I’m thinking about attending solely for the purpose of finding some new genes.
Was going to run perpetual but with all of the problems I’ve encountered along the way and with some push from my experienced friend I decided against it. How do you deal with having all the different stages in flower in terms of feeds, etc? Do you have multiple reservoirs? How large of a veg space do you have/how much veg space is needed to fill each table/light?
Ive got multiple reservoirs. Mom's get their own, veg all gets the same, flower each tray has its own. Normally I would mono crop each tray but I didn't have enough cookie cuts to run a full one this time so there's 12 forums, 1 glue, 1 ssh, 1 firestorm and 1 wedding cake.
This is my veg space 25 days ago. Not pictured is my ez clone 128. Total veg space is maybe 5x5 I can fill my cloner up, root and transplant into solo cups of coco and fit all 128 in the 3x3 tray. Gets kinda crowded after 15 20 days of veg but usually by then there's an open flower tray. I try to rotate flower so around 30 days something's coming out or going in...
Awesome flowers, SG. Those CMH's are truly doing the job. I've been through your threads as well as Isaak's. I'm impressed to the point of making the change. I have a couple of 1k's - HPS's. I want to get 3 630's. My space is 8 x 6 x 7.5. Will the 630's be enough coverage, in your opinion? Thanks for your help.
I'm about to run 3 over 3 3x3 trays. So a 9x3. Could maybe get away with a 4x8 for the 3 but that's pushing it I think. I think a 3x3 for 1 is perfect. Height wise I'm about 83 inches tall myself so after tray height, my canopy can only max out around 3 ft or so.
PurplePotion
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Hey chunky! Just curious man; how were the results with the 1k cmh in the de hps fixture? Did you run it @ 1000 or 1200watts? I have one I’m considering trying this on, though The mfg themselves are convinced the bulb will blow up and strongly advised against it lol.
Any difference in yields vs the de hps? Less IR heat? Able to be run closer to the canopy at all?
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Tray on left 51 tray on right 15 also gsc and gg4 from left
These cmh are garbage. Nothing but low grade Reggie Miller.... I've tried everything and the nugs are just no good.
Some 57 day shots.
Wedding cake
Gg4
Ssh
Firestorm
Forum
Wedding cake
Gg4
Ssh
Firestorm
Forum
Got the third light up and running over a tray of 2.0
Also my ssh tray at 25 and left tray at 60.
Nugs are of some 60 day glue.
Also my ssh tray at 25 and left tray at 60.
Nugs are of some 60 day glue.
That has to be nice to go to three and not use any more electric than you were on the HPS!
Ya I think it's so much more efficient. Can run 3 lights and still be under the wattage of 2k. Plus my temps are still easily manageable. With all 3 lights on I'm sitting at around 77 degrees.
As soon as my left tray finishes up I'll move the light and tray over to that empty space between the ssh and 2.0 tray.
As soon as my left tray finishes up I'll move the light and tray over to that empty space between the ssh and 2.0 tray.
