Karma Genetics Strain Info, Listings, And all........

[DoubleTripleOG]

^^ Yeah what nickman said. The karma's I grew were some of the trickiest plants I have grown, out of so many strains I can't remember all of them.

Your right, in veg they don't need much food, if any at all, if your in good soil. From my experience anyways. Letting them stay nearly dry, with just a little water when they need it seemed to work best for me. Your mileage may vary....

 

[Slab]

Thanks nickman and DoubleTripleOG for chiming in with your experience, i appreciate it.

Did you find they settled down during vegging once you began getting into the clone runs after the seed plant run?
I have found some difficult plants do settle down once they are grown from clone rather than the initial seed plant.

One thing i did find was that when i took them out today to inspect them, after leaving them in the kitchen for an hour or so they stunk the room out! Very strong smell that reminded me of shoe polish and burnt lemon rind.

Thanks again for your advice and experience. I will take it onboard and keep the watering and feeding to an absolute minimum and see the plants through to the end of flowering which i should be starting in just over two weeks time.

 

[nickman]

Also, I was told that they don't like to be over watered... when I watered mine I would only give them like half a gallon... All the other strains got a full gallon per plant at watering time, when the karma og only got about half that ...

Just something else I remembered...

If their getting over crowded by the other strains then put them on top of something like a bucket ... To make them taller.

 

[Gardening Angel]

Hey!

So ive got some good news after getting many males from my Karmas packs (males: 4/4 KarmaOG, 9/12 BHOG wtf and 2/4 white og), but now im really really happy to report 2 nice female WhiteOGs, ready for chop in about a week or so, at 63ish days.

Faster than expected, problem free plants, really stacked with the tightest buds ive grown, and lots of frost. Perfect plants really.

Cant wait to see how they smoke. They beat every other plant in my garden as far as growth goes (I grow bodhi and gage green mostly).

So ill update my old thread with pictures and smoke report in a few weeks, just wanted to share my happiness here. Finally getting ready to smoke some Karma after all this time!!

Hey clouds,

Thanks for the update
Looking forward to a smoke report etc

You harvesting the BHOG after the WOG ?

Thanks
GA

 

[Gardening Angel]

Hi Karma,
Would you consider Karma OG a difficult strain to grow?

I am having a very hard time trying to keep mine happy, they do not appear to respond to anything i have tried in order for them to grow healthy.

The plants are vegging in a space with nine other strains, four of which are from seed and all are doing very well as expected except the Karma OGs. All of the plants are being hand watered in coco.

I set off six of the Karma OG seeds mid July and i got five seedlings and one no show. One of the seedlings was a runt and very twisted looking so i binned it. Another initially was quite mutated looking with no serations on the primary leaves and also very twisted leaves.
All five of the seedlings are very slow growing, only one has shown sex to this day. None of them drink much water and its often days before the pots are light enough to give them more water. The leaves on all of them are drooping, pale green and stripey and looking like i should give them cal mag. Often by lights out the tops of the plants seem to flop over.
I have tried giving them cal mag and they respond negatively with the leaves curling under and they don't appear to like being fed or watered.
I have just binned the most weak looking plant and the root development on inspection is very poor, this particular plant never managed to get repotted out of its seedling pot as it just sat there refusing to take up water and seemed to quickly stall not long after germination.
Im not sure if i should persevere with them as everything else is overgrowing them and i am about to put the rest of the plants into their final pots.

I have never grown a pure OG before but i have grown out hundreds of seeds of various strains since the mid ninetys but this strain has got me stumped.

Any tips or advice you can give to help make the rest of the seeds when i germinate them happy would be much apreciated.

Thanks Karma,

Much Respect!!

Hey slab,

I also hand feed in coco
What diet do you have them on ?

I read you have been growing for sometime so the usual question/answer you have probably done yourself already ?

I take it your coco PH is getting low if it's staying wet for to long ?
Probably leading to calmag and N problems ?

If you check my karma og thread seed run was f##ked up with diet and growing area
But clone run was real good with simple diet

PH 5.8-6.0
EC 1.2/1.4

Diet
Canna coco A&B
Calmag
PK boost
Ph down

Fed 2x day up to 3x heavy flower


thanks
GA

 

[Slab]

Hi G A,

Yeah, i read your Karma OG thread as you were making it, i enjoyed it a lot. I don"t post much as you can see by my join date and post count, i much prefer reading and learning.

All the other plants/strains growing along side the Karma OG are doing great, its only the KOG that is not taking up water and looking unhappy.
I did think they may sort themselves out once i start running them from clones.

I tend to feed on the light side usually and with a long flush. Here is how i usually do things these days.

I am in a hard water area of the UK. I use the Hard Water version of Plant Magic coco nutrient. I have been using their nutrients for a few years now and i am very happy with the results. Its made in UK and tested on UK water and it works very well for me.
When mixed up it requires very little Ph down to get it to the correct range i need. My Ph range and EC is the same as yours.

Diet
Plant Magic coco nutrient A&B
Plant Magic Calmag
Plant Magic Hydro Silicon
Hesi PK boost
Canna Rhizotonic

I start verging at Ph 5.8 and when they go into their final pots ( i pot up in increments to get a good root ball ) the Ph is 5.9
By 2nd week of flowering i set the Ph at 5.9-6.0

Most of the stuff i run has a 9-10 week flowering cycle from the start of 12/12.
Half way through week 7 i usually start to give them plain water at Ph 6.0 for 7 days and the last two weeks and up to the end of flower they get just plain tap water so they always get a good long flush.

As i said earlier i tend to feed light, whatever the bottle says i would normally give them half that depending on what i think the plant is telling me, if a particular plant looks like a big feeder it gets what it wants.
I always have a number of different strains going at once for variety and i try to within reason give them individual attention.

I water once a day when the lights come on. I always test the water temp with my finger to make sure its a good temp for the plants before giving them a drink.

It works for me, a gpw is fairly common for me these days. its just for personal and friends so i am quite happy to run lower yielding types aswell, Flo for example.

I always have a few strains starting from seed amongst a run as i love to see new kinds show what they can do and it keeps it all interesting adds variety and continues the learning process.

Im sure the KOG plants will come out great and as we get to know each other i have no doubt that they will eventually flourish.

Hey, thanks nickman for the extra info, for sure they like to be kept on the drier side it seems, at least this time round.

I will get some pics up of the finished plants all going well by the end of December and add anything new that i have learned about their growing needs.

 

[Spaced freckles]

Has karma got any kosher crosses

 

[Xray Kimono]

Has karma got any kosher crosses

24 K White Gold is Kosher Tangie x White OG V2..... I popped five four days ago.... Nice wide leaves for babies.

 

[Slab]

I got 3 females of the Karma OG. They did eventually pull out of the poor growth they were showing in veg, two 5 days or so before i placed them into flower and one after around a week into flower. They are now 3 weeks into flower.
I took healthy looking cuts from the two best looking plants all of which rooted and as soon as they showed roots reverted back to the poor growth i experienced from the seed plants.
All other different strains growing along side are perfectly happy.
The Karma OGs have very poor root formation and all are extremely floppy and stretchy. They are very delicate and snap easily when trying to gently bend the tops over to control the stretch.
I have just binned one of the 3 flowering plants as it is way to spindly and floppy for me and is taking up space i think would be better utilized by the surrounding plants.
Upon inspection of that particular plants root system it has hardly rooted out the pot and has very fine hair like roots, much like the rooted clones are developing.
I will continue flowering out the remaining two females, one of which was so sickly during veg it is still in a half litre pot.
Im not sure i will keep any of the clones as they seem way to fussy and these days there are so many strains to try i don't really have the patience for plants that don't perform happily in my set up.
To my eye the KOG's i have suffer from poor root development causing all sorts of problems during veg. All the other strains i have growing alonside are growing very well and responding as i would expect.
Maybe pure "OG' plants are not for me, these ones are without doubt performing very poorly with one healthy looking female from of setting off 6 seeds.
I will definately try more Karma varietys but this OG is not for me.

 

[DoubleTripleOG]

Thanks nickman and DoubleTripleOG for chiming in with your experience, i appreciate it.

Did you find they settled down during vegging once you began getting into the clone runs after the seed plant run?
I have found some difficult plants do settle down once they are grown from clone rather than the initial seed plant.

One thing i did find was that when i took them out today to inspect them, after leaving them in the kitchen for an hour or so they stunk the room out! Very strong smell that reminded me of shoe polish and burnt lemon rind.

Thanks again for your advice and experience. I will take it onboard and keep the watering and feeding to an absolute minimum and see the plants through to the end of flowering which i should be starting in just over two weeks time.

I will find out soon enough. The clones I took are reverting back to veg.

 

[Karma G]

Most OG.s like a light feed. Dry.r pots in coco and soil. And need a bit extra cal mag.

They also dont like to dry air in veg and start flower.

 

[Xray Kimono]

I thought I was the only one.. I guess they are realllllly light feeders. I give everybody no more than 1.2ec & 4-500ppms

That and i always use tomato cages to tie off the vines to like grape vines when it is kushes. Otherwise they can be too weak and break, especially when they chunk up.

 

[Kalyx]

Karmas Og

Road Dawg

 

[SmokinErb22]

I didn't find the Karma OG to need that much care, myself. Hit 'em with some CalMg every other watering, and keep the nutes low and they were real happy for me. Need to be staked up, for sure. Just finished off my last Karma OG nug last night Gonna have to pop some more beans.

 

[Kalyx]

Kals Tips for Karma's OG

Now that I have had her in my garden for awhile she has become easy to grow and keep happy on a regular basis. None of my Karmas Og give me issues or are finicky any longer but they can be if you don't treat em right. I still have a lot of work to do getting her dialed in myself but if you follow some basics it should be smooth sailing, growing this great strain.


Karmas Og is an amazing line, the plants can be a tad sensitive but are worth every bit of effort in the end. So don't be discouraged the best thing you can do is follow the KISS (keep it simple stupid) method. @SmokinErb22 stated it best when he said "I didn't find the Karma OG to need that much care, myself." Now Im taking it out of context a bit but the number one piece of advice I can give to others growing this strain is less is more. You really just need to sit back and let her do her thing and keep what you do to a minimum, no need to get fancy or creative. I know a lot of what I am saying has already been mentioned by others. I know many of us are in agreement as well with basic growth tendencies this strain displays, I just wanted to add my insight to the matter.

Keep It Simple Stupid - No need to experiment with new mediums or nutes, use methods, materials you know and are comfortable with.

Water Lightly - They dont like to be completely saturated, let soil/medium dry. Use a light hand maybe give them half the water you would other plants, especially when young.

Feed Lightly - I wouldn't recommend using any nutes in veg if you're in soil. When feeding, start with half the normal dosage you would use or less. They do seem to like their cal/mag so thats one thing they will want to be fed.

Light Sensitivity - This mainly seems to come from seed runs and not as much on clones. Too much light can be an issue for young plants, if needed raise the light or move them to the side. They can also display light sensitivities at the start of flowering, raise the light if you can or move them off to the side until they can handle the light.

I had a lot of difficulties starting off with this strain, my problems continued for a long time. The first run the flowers still came out beautiful and amazing even after all my problems. If I remember correctly it was right before flower when I finally had my girls looking like respectably healthy plants. She can be a challenging strain at first but will get easier as you get a feel for her. I still have a lot of work getting her dialed in, I love the challenge she gives and learning what she wants. The quality in this line is excellent and I can only imagine when Im able to dial her in and unlock her full potential.

 

[DoubleTripleOG]

Awesome tips Kal. I will also add that young KOG plants do not like to be rootbound, in my experience. Also in my experience, they can be finicky to root clones of. But don't give up on them. Keep cloning conditions consistant, and they will always root. 21 days being the longest I had to wait.

 

[nickman]

Great tips on the OG kalyx... I agree with everything that you said...these are finicky plants when their givin to much of things - like water or nutes or light or whatever the case may be...
As soon as I learned that less is more with this strain it performed well...

I've learned a good deal growing this line along with the biker and the Karma OG x biker Kush (testers)...
I'd recommend this strain to anyone...

 

[Critter]

Mine stretched way less than any sativa...no support either needed but to each their own

 

[Gardening Angel]

Karmas Og

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Hey kalyx

Awesome pics
You have done an awesome job this round
Looking forward to seeing you run her again

I hope your keeping well ?

Thanks
GA

 

[Gardening Angel]

Hey everyone,

OG tend to be sensitive plants I believe most problems with karma OG are grower related and not genetics related

I messed up first round with new nutrient line my fault not genetics !

Clone run with my regular nute line,
My run came out real nice even though the popo found her on the flush !!!!

Also remember karma OG is at an f4 and I believe most growers are used to the growth and hardiness of f1 seed

Thanks
GA