JUICY FRUIT

[Ca++]

I was given a tutti fruity cut that was nice. It was a 3 way, between juicy fruit, grapefruit and bubble gum iirc. It was remarkably similar sounding. A very surprising flavour to come from cannabis.

Knowing this market, the bubble gum was probably just a juicy fruit rip-off. Probably worth tracking down, as much as the juicy fruit, because the 3way cross seems no different.

 

[AlphaGardens]

I was thinking the same thing about the bubble gum line.. the bubble gum i had smelt just like, pink hubba bubba style.

I was given a tutti fruity cut that was nice. It was a 3 way, between juicy fruit, grapefruit and bubble gum iirc. It was remarkably similar sounding. A very surprising flavour to come from cannabis.

Knowing this market, the bubble gum was probably just a juicy fruit rip-off. Probably worth tracking down, as much as the juicy fruit, because the 3way cross seems no different.

But good news, I put half the original juicy fruit pack into the germination station..was not getting any results after 3 days or so.. so yesterday. I dried one seed off, and split it at the seams, and sure enough I got a lil white tail this morning, so ill do the same with the rest of them, and get em in a nice spil mix asap. If i can get em all to germ like that.. ill pop the other half pack and do the same, and have a full pack reprod. Ill share a picture soon.

 

[Wolverine97]

I was thinking the same thing about the bubble gum line.. the bubble gum i had smelt just like, pink hubba bubba style.



But good news, I put half the original juicy fruit pack into the germination station..was not getting any results after 3 days or so.. so yesterday. I dried one seed off, and split it at the seams, and sure enough I got a lil white tail this morning, so ill do the same with the rest of them, and get em in a nice spil mix asap. If i can get em all to germ like that.. ill pop the other half pack and do the same, and have a full pack reprod. Ill share a picture soon.

You'll get better results if you soak in a .5% peroxide solution in distilled water.

 

[AlphaGardens]

Here is a pic of our first tail.. going in a compost soil mix now..and ill proceed to split the other 4

 

[AlphaGardens]

You'll get better results if you soak in a .5% peroxide solution in distilled water.

Yes i was thinking about doing that.. ill do it with the remaining half pack I have left..

 

[LostTribe]

Yes i was thinking about doing that.. ill do it with the remaining half pack I have left..

I recommend a short quick h20 soak followed by rinse in sterile water. Rinse rinse rinse. The h20 is solely for surface decontamination.

I would NOT use whatever random soil you think will work, you will burn the heck out of them and they wont germ. Jiffy wont work either, no juice.

I would then plant directly ito miracle grow performace organics all purpose container mix. It has just enough NPK to work without burning. That is what I have had luck with. It saved DJ short F13, which wouldnt germ in towel or jiffy. I got 100% germ 13/13, no soak, no wash vs 2/13 in the first pack.

This. You have to think outside the box when dealing with delicate issues. Plants don't give a damn what brand the bag says only the NPK ratio. None of your 50 different ammendments is the magic key, only low NPK, but just enough. Trust the company that's been doing it on scale for half a century not some stoner on youtube mixing cow poop in his basement, not on scale. You will fry them.
https://miraclegro.com/en-us/shop/s...mance-organics-all-purpose-container-mix.html

 

[LostTribe]

I will add that trying to manually manipulate pre soaked seed has never resulted in a growable plant for me and I have tried more times than I care to remember.

 

[Wolverine97]

I recommend a short quick h20 soak followed by rinse in sterile water. Rinse rinse rinse. The h20 is solely for surface decontamination.

I would NOT use whatever random soil you think will work, you will burn the heck out of them and they wont germ. Jiffy wont work either, no juice.

I would then plant directly ito miracle grow performace organics all purpose container mix. It has just enough NPK to work without burning. That is what I have had luck with. It saved DJ short F13, which wouldnt germ in towel or jiffy. I got 100% germ 13/13, no soak, no wash vs 2/13 in the first pack.

This. You have to think outside the box when dealing with delicate issues. Plants don't give a damn what brand the bag says only the NPK ratio. None of your 50 different ammendments is the magic key, only low NPK, but just enough. Trust the company that's been doing it on scale for half a century not some stoner on youtube mixing cow poop in his basement, not on scale. You will fry them.
https://miraclegro.com/en-us/shop/s...mance-organics-all-purpose-container-mix.html

At .3-.5% concentration it's perfectly fine. It is how I pop all my older seeds, never any ill effects, I always get bright white fuzzy feeder roots as soon as they pop. I soak them overnight even, sometimes, then I'll transfer to paper towels with just distilled water after that.



There's another one I saw where they tested several different old seeds, of differing ages, from 1yr, to 15 years old, and they found that .5% gave the most consistent positive results, and almost a 10x upgrade vs plain water. I'll try to find that one as well. But like I said, I have been doing it this way for years. It does not harm the seed, or embryo at .3-.5%

 

[LostTribe]

I've litterally tried to germ hundreds of too old to germ seed but what do I know...

 

[Wolverine97]

I've litterally tried to germ hundreds of too old to germ seed but what do I know...

I have as well, I'm not arguing with you but offering my experience. We're on the same team here!
And I still think there are better ways, for really old seeds, involving GA3 and weak sugar solution.

 

[AlphaGardens]

I recommend a short quick h20 soak followed by rinse in sterile water. Rinse rinse rinse. The h20 is solely for surface decontamination.

I would NOT use whatever random soil you think will work, you will burn the heck out of them and they wont germ. Jiffy wont work either, no juice.

I would then plant directly ito miracle grow performace organics all purpose container mix. It has just enough NPK to work without burning. That is what I have had luck with. It saved DJ short F13, which wouldnt germ in towel or jiffy. I got 100% germ 13/13, no soak, no wash vs 2/13 in the first pack.

This. You have to think outside the box when dealing with delicate issues. Plants don't give a damn what brand the bag says only the NPK ratio. None of your 50 different ammendments is the magic key, only low NPK, but just enough. Trust the company that's been doing it on scale for half a century not some stoner on youtube mixing cow poop in his basement, not on scale. You will fry them.
https://miraclegro.com/en-us/shop/s...mance-organics-all-purpose-container-mix.html

I only make homeade compost and homeade potting soils..only buy perlite in bulk. havent bought a bag of soil in over 10 to 15 years.. and use all organic homeade feed. We live on horse farms. And raise and butcher animals, and raise gardens for generations.. Havent had a yellow leaf or a over fed plant since the 2007 hydro era hahaha.
My Pops is also a old professional bass fisherman in his 80s now.. so u know we make use of all that good fish bones and heads haha.

Revived a line from 1992, 2 years ago.. i posted. Few pages back with the monkey tail you can see. Also revived one from 1976 called "Hill batch" 92,94,96 mountain skunk, 87 skunk.. and abunch more of old lines of 30 year plus since they was stored. Me and a buddy have been having great success. God willing.

And ive always told people stay far away from miracle grow products. Even if they say organic.. i wldnt trust them at all.

I cant wait to see how they do, been breeding for 20 years this year. So if all goes well they will be run beside my Sierra Negra line.. which is Just a old Kandahar IBL X zipolte Oxacan we got from Bodhi many years ago.. so she may get hit to that as well.

Edit..also if the first one that popped a tail, dont react well to the compost mix, we shall make sure to SWITCH IT UP haha.

 

[AlphaGardens]

would then plant directly ito miracle grow performace organics all purpose container mix. It has just enough NPK to work without burning. That is what I have had luck with. It saved DJ short F13, which wouldnt germ in towel or jiffy. I got 100% germ 13/13, no soak, no wash vs 2/13 in the first pack.

This is how our raised beds do that have been worked for years and years..even old veggie seeds that wont germ any other way.. some reason will take the hell off if planted in our raised beds.

 

[AlphaGardens]

Here is a pic of the 94 "Mountain skunk" we revived.. (most all the MT skunks are very sativa dominate. ) this was a sweet smelling pheno

 

[AlphaGardens]

This old guy had stored the seeds very well id say... this one we revived about 6 years ago.. it was apart of a group of seeds labeled 90s mountain skunk...in old film rolls.

They are pretty damn cool if you ask me haha.

I love seeing these actual time capsuls come back to life.. knowing old day breeders, this was thier line they was running in those mountains 30 years ago. All the ppl who was smoking it 30 years ago..its wild.

 

[AlphaGardens]

I got alot more old seeds from that collection, i wish i got to keep it all..lol old dude has a goldmine. And hes a old meth head in applachia been holding those seeds in his moms basement since the 90s. He had his own original prolly 30 or 40 seeds of NL5/haze stored since the 90s i didnt even grab at the time. I was on a skunk hunt lol.. grabed lots of his Skunks and mountain skunks in the film rolls. And i was tripping when i seen em germ, and how the plants turned out.

He had like 3 seeds of the original Skunk 1 i grabbed... it had a OLD DAY label.. Skunk #1 Flu #347 and some else. Sadly they wldnt pop no matter what i did.
But most others from that collection have had good success with.
That monkey tail is like a mexico columbian lovers dream.

 

[FTL]

I grew one plant of the Juicy fruit in ~2007. It Had tight nodes, took ages to verge, and it had a soft sweet smell.
Tbh it was unremarkable. The high was mild but pleasant , nothing to write home about, didn’t keep it.

 

[AlphaGardens]

I grew one plant of the Juicy fruit in ~2007. It Had tight nodes, took ages to verge, and it had a soft sweet smell.
Tbh it was unremarkable. The high was mild but pleasant , nothing to write home about, didn’t keep it.

I expect that with all these old lines to be honest.. how much is ppl just saving bs old seeds.. or are they lying? But of course u can always tell when uve ran across a real actual old collection...and when u do u capitalize on that opportunity. But even tho i cld tell it was all so real.. i still doubted the product.. was really from that year or whatever.. ppl just do that.. and when i seen the results.. i cld tell immediately it was old 80s and 90s drug lines. And that made me happy as hell lol.. bc they are so hard to find these days.. yea alots gonna be straw.. and also ur gonna gind some fire.. that came thru a brick from the esrly 90s as well.. so for that reason.. i gotta grow em.. the 92 monkey tail is the by far winner of them all so far.. absoulte dank..sativa.. 12 to 14 weeks. Smells like a nursing home. Super strong long lasting soaring sativa high.. its like the beggining of a shroom trip.

I hot it labeld as MT.92 on seed finder. But man what a fking find. Super unique and fire. From those old applachia hills.

 

[Wolverine97]

Using GA3 for old seeds.

 

[LostTribe]

I have as well, I'm not arguing with you but offering my experience. We're on the same team here!
And I still think there are better ways, for really old seeds, involving GA3 and weak sugar solution.

I tried the GA3 a long time ago. I did get it to open seed but they didnt survive after surfacing.

I wasnt picking on you. I was more aiming to say trying to remove seed husks or manually correct germination after initial soak has never worked for me. I have recently seen a couple people gaining tap root via in vitro organogenesis but didnt see them complete what they were up to, ie root, shoot then successfully harden off ex vitro. Only pics of seeds on media in vials with roots an shell intact.

I may try that with a few sour og f2's I have that spit out of this world fire but only like 18 remain. The firest of the fire I've ever ran but havent germed in over 5 years.

 

[Wolverine97]

I tried the GA3 a long time ago. I did get it to open seed but they didnt survive after surfacing.

I wasnt picking on you. I was more aiming to say trying to remove seed husks or manually correct germination after initial soak has never worked for me. I have recently seen a couple people gaining tap root via in vitro organogenesis but didnt see them complete what they were up to, ie root, shoot then successfully harden off ex vitro. Only pics of seeds on media in vials with roots an shell intact.

I may try that with a few sour og f2's I have that spit out of this world fire but only like 18 remain. The firest of the fire I've ever ran but havent germed in over 5 years.

All good man. Text is weird.
Whose Sour OG are those f2's? I probably still have an original Swerve pack in the vault... if so you're welcome to 'em.