(Juicy Fruit x Royal Orange) V's (Royal Orange x Juicy Fruit) Reciprocal Diallel F2

[Mate Dave]

Still Waiting for Sensi to get back to the seed shop about my problem with germination so I have lined up a few crosses from other seeds to keep me going.

I have a Mango Haze IBL supposed to be @ F8, it's really stocky looking & very hardy. I have Super silver Haze F2 to have a go @ & then there is the Blueberry & the Black Domina that I am interested in to get the flavour profile I am after.

This is a BD male I rouged out this season. It's got good structure & responds well to most things including induced photoperiod.

 

[Mate Dave]

Here is a sample of what weed comes from this BD IBL that I am calling BDL, this is the mother, it's resistant to mould & finished up before Halloween

 

[Mate Dave]

I started my seeds off really early this year & they have all pre flowered & gone to big school already. I have some males that have continued to flower & by the end of June I think my Blueberry's will have completed flowering before flower sets on the regular females. I wondering if I let him dust up everything in the valley, my females can't be effected by him at present. would be nice to see him flowered out without it effecting my grow @ least & see what he's about. there are 3 of them & one is fast & branchy the other is too lanky & the other barely showed before the females but it's a boy. I can save the pollen as it comes & cut a clone.. I don't have much experience outdoors but this seems like an auto flowering early trait to me. I have seen it in 4 varieties this year. The other 3 varieties have done the same with the males continuing to flower.. I'm thinking about using the latest one as it will perhaps not get used in the wild but I will need to bag that fella up... All these males started to cluster but go back into veg if you top them so it seems.. Is this normal for males to respond like this with early almost autoflowering?

 

[handshake]

I've been waiting for Phylos to get back to me with regards to their tests. I'm glad they haven't now because I have discovered my own way of doing their analytical tests that require no postage & none of their import charges or 'Nada'

The sex tests are not inaccurate but they do not allow scope for environmental stress & they are not fast enough & now I have discovered I can do it myself in-house, this goes for the predicative testing too.

Simple & cheap as chips it is. No long tings

I might just show you all how I did this after fruition to help you all out.

Would love to hear more about this, from you or anyone else that has an idea of what you're talking about.

If there were a cheap, at-home sex test without flowering, I'd assume it would be commonplace/common knowledge by now.

Let us know how things go, but would love more info in the meantime

 

[Mate Dave]

You are able to chemotype with homemade test kits so you can reduce numbers in half or pass on the unwanted chemotypes. Then you let them get to sexual maturity under vegetative hours if they start to flower they are no good & you throw them unless that is desirable. Then you have your visually known sex that Phylo's data cannot tell you without growing them.. You have your Chemotypes to then breed into known females carrying desired traits & then you can select pure genotype's when growing out 1000 progeny with Mendel's data..

https://www.mun.ca/biology/scarr/22...vATdNG2P45X0nG71hiaL78iJDjOS_GUcdGAlTQ5amoN20

 

[iTHC]

keep it coming dave, my IQ has risen 20 points reading this thread

 

[Mate Dave]

Thankyou for your Kind words iTHC.


It's busy round here currently. I've harvested a batch of blueberry seeds. The 1st sowing of autoflwers was harvested & some seeds are viable what I made with those. I have collected pollen from the regular males that seem solid & kept some snips for the regular stuff. The main crop females are big. With different gardens keeping up with watering is taking it's time. That & I met a cool woman here

No using frozen pollen for a month or so I wouldn't think, it was good to get that out the way with February sowings to weed out the auto phenos & to have bushes that will give up hundreds of cuttings I have to frame my plants this week & tie them in. I will be back periodically to update..

 

[Mate Dave]

I have been working on this alongside some other things ive got going on. Relocating setting up shop again and so on. I have found during my time studying a method that can keep sustain heterosis by adding more genes into the mix and from the data I pulled from the 'Galaxy' reading and studying I feel that WW are the genes I wanna bring into this Double Cross so I can explore progeny alongside F2_1 lines to evaluate the running the math all the way out to 56.25% 31.25% 12.5%.

I'm unsure what this type of cross is called or which way they blend best.. The Double Triple Polly? I'll work it out..

I'm wondering if the heterozygosity of the crosses might become sterile or if the vigor will be kept at 88%.. What new traits it may throw up.

It could be possible that a mismatch in genetic material could make F1 heterozygous hybrids unable to properly produce heterozygous offspring - because the grandparent generation didn't have mutations/ traits and might not blend well able to produce the Aa hybrids fine, but the F1s can only produce viable AA & aa offspring..


High hopes to be able to travel again next year looking for a farm that is willing to trial out some seeds and take on a technical consultant buy into some IP so I can use my Degree..


I'm not considering anything other than agronomic traits at this stage and have a list I've been making for a few years of various things I find that I want in plants primary metabolites for adaptability survival, things I don't want in every stage of the plants life from seed to seed. I must look at the expression atlas..