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Jobs, revenue lost in pot dispensary crackdown

megayields

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SF Gate 11/24/11
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The federal Department of Justice's crackdown on medical marijuana dispensaries in California has meant the loss of thousands of jobs and millions of dollars in tax revenue, according to cannabis advocates and government statistics.


An estimated 2,500 people statewide have lost their jobs since late September, when California's four U.S. attorneys sent letters that threatened jail sentences for dispensary owners and the possible seizure of buildings that house the pot clubs, said Dan Rush, director of the United Food and Commercial Workers' national medical cannabis division. The union began organizing medical marijuana workers in May 2010.


Of those jobs, which union officials say include people who are directly employed by marijuana dispensaries as well as those with indirect ties to the industry, about 50 have been lost in San Francisco and dozens more around the Bay Area.


Three city dispensaries have closed since receiving warning letters from Melinda Haag, the U.S. attorney for Northern California.
Before closing Nov. 12, Medithrive in San Francisco's Mission District employed 17 people at its storefront near 16th Street and another five at its warehouse, said P.J. Johnston, a spokesman for the dispensary. Another 15 jobs were lost when Divinity Tree in the Tenderloin neighborhood closed Nov. 11, said Charles Pappas, chairman for the collective.


Representatives for Mr. Nice Guy, the third to close, did not reply to requests for comment, but industry experts say the Valencia Street dispensary employed at least a dozen people.
Wages and benefits

The average wage at Medithrive was $17.80 an hour, Johnston said, while a job at Divinity Tree started at $20 an hour, according to Pappas. Both included full health care benefits.
"These are all good, single-earner, breadwinner jobs," Rush said. "How many places can take a hit like this to their economy? It's insane."


The state Board of Equalization collected an estimated $100 million in sales taxes from medical marijuana dispensaries in 2010, agency spokeswoman Anita Gore said.


Only Divinity Tree officials would discuss their tax bill: The dispensary, which with 7,000 registered members had less than a third of Medithrive's 26,000 patients, "never paid less than $200,000" a year in taxes since opening in 2007, Pappas said.
Subsidized services

In the Bay Area, where some dispensaries must also pay a local tax, the medical marijuana industry helps subsidize government services. That's in addition to spending thousands of dollars on advertising and hiring professional services such as lawyers and accountants.


Some of this economic activity is disappearing even as the dispensaries remain open. Medithrive, for example, spent $209,000 this year on advertising, $64,000 in payroll taxes, and $4,000 in local permit fees, Johnston said.


Since the crackdown, San Francisco's 23 remaining dispensaries have canceled much of their advertising, according to Stephanie Tucker, a spokeswoman for the city's Medical Cannabis Task Force.
Ad revenue

Medical marijuana advertising constitutes about 10 percent of the ad revenue at alternative weeklies like the San Francisco Bay Guardian, Executive Editor Tim Redmond said. "It's a significant source of ad revenue for us. It not only hurts us, it hurts any newspaper trying to sell ads."


Chronicle President Mark Adkins, however, said the federal crackdown generally has not affected the newspaper's ad revenue and paid business listings. "Our policy has not changed, and we will continue to accept legitimate medicinal marijuana dispensary advertising," he said.


Were San Francisco's medical marijuana industry to be extinguished, thousands of jobs would be lost, Tucker said. When ancillary jobs ranging from construction workers to architects to planners to lawyers and accountants are factored in, San Francisco's medical marijuana industry employs "1,500 people, conservatively," she said. In Oakland, medical marijuana employs 400 people, Rush said.


In an e-mail, Haag did not comment on the issue of jobs, but said that her office had received "many phone calls, letters and e-mails from people who are deeply troubled by the tremendous growth of the marijuana industry and its influence on their communities." She signaled that more warning letters - and more closures - could be on the way.
More complaints

"Since my office sent the letters," she wrote, "we have received even more complaints relating to schools, and now from cities that have banned dispensaries yet still have them opening and refusing to abide by local law."


California state law allows dispensaries to operate within 600 feet of a school or park; stricter San Francisco law requires a 1,000-foot boundary.


Thus far, San Francisco's elected officials have been silent on the issue, with the notable exceptions of state Sen. Mark Leno and Assemblyman Tom Ammiano. Both Democrats have sponsored cannabis-friendly legislation in Sacramento, and both appeared at a rally denouncing the raids.


But so far they've been unsuccessful in either scheduling a meeting with Haag or eliciting action or a statement from other state officials, such as Gov. Jerry Brown, who as attorney general wrote the guidelines for California's legal marijuana providers.
Restraining order sought

Legal action pursued by the dispensaries has also been unsuccessful. Dispensaries in all four federal court districts in California sued the Justice Department this month, seeking a temporary restraining order against federal prosecutors' actions. The case has not yet been scheduled for a hearing, said San Francisco attorney Matt Kumin, who is representing the dispensaries in court.


Meanwhile, "monetary costs are certainly in the hundreds of thousands monthly," Kumin said. "Lost jobs, unemployment benefits, lost taxes, loss of secondary economic impacts. Who is served? DEA jobs and budgets."




E-mail comments to [email protected].
This article appeared on page D - 1 of the San Francisco Chronicle


 

SKUNK420

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Barry's former Chief of Staff Rahm Emanuel likes to say " never let a crisis go to waste". Now these former dispensary employees need help because they have no job, need food (stamps), rent money etc...

Are they going to get unemployment benefits? Barry is going to sign into law the unemployment jobless benefits extension this coming Monday. Which is reported on average to give $300 per week to the unemployed that qualify for the benefits.

Too bad the rise in gas prices will make everything cost more which will wipe out any good the benefits will have. Oh yeah who's fault is it now for high gas prices?

The justice department is run by Eric Holder who was appointed by the greatest president in all of U.S. history Barry O.

So lets see who blames who for this crap. All I can say is the DEA has always been against MMJ so at least they are not flip flopping like the justice department. We know who is against MMJ but who is really friends of MMJ?
 

alittlebirdie

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In an e-mail, Haag did not comment on the issue of jobs, but said that her office had received "many phone calls, letters and e-mails from people who are deeply troubled by the tremendous growth of the marijuana industry and its influence on their communities." She signaled that more warning letters - and more closures - could be on the way.

How many letters? How many complaints? Did any of these letters or complaints have any substance? How many letters denouncing the actions of the justice dept were sent?
 

castout

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Ohhhhh, this is so frustrating!!!!! Why can't GOVT see the boon that marijuana can be to the economy.
 

stasis

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Because we can make our own money. Enriching our power. Because the Gummint has not allowed themselves to tax and regulate as they could - due to fear of losing voters' support.. Because of the Lobbying of Pharmaceutical, alcohol, and tobacco Companies amongst others. And lots more....

A great question with no REASONABLE answer..!
 

stasis

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This just goes to show how FUBAR the Federal Gov. has been for decades. Bring on the Revolution I say.

Totally, Mac....

Nothing they can even do at this point. It;s a foregone conclusion.

The Revolution will occur at some point, because such irresponsible ways of running a Country will NOT be rewarded... 'Merkins can be Sheep-like, but the people will eventually rise up. It may take some extreme hardship for that to occur "en masse..."

It will start (and already has) as an Urban Rebellion, and morph into the Countryside..

At that point, it is too late for the Cretins...

When even the Country Folk start to pull out the pitchforks, torches, and rifles it will become a Police State from Hell, and that will only fan the flames of said Torches...

I'm not really wanting people to suffer, but the Pols have only themselves (and the "Shitstem" or "Dominant Paradigm") to blame.

I thought that originally when our Generation became the Leaders that we would see change. Apparently, my Generation is also ruled by Money - unforch....

People need to start taking care of each other, which is NOT how things are in modern-day Northern California... Where Narcissism and Economic Absurdity (Haves and Have-nots) is the rule.
 

Grass Lands

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No job were actually lost...folks turned from white hat to black hat and also they funded more prisons to put more guards to work....so really the money still flows, just in a different path...
 
Barry's former Chief of Staff Rahm Emanuel likes to say " never let a crisis go to waste". Now these former dispensary employees need help because they have no job, need food (stamps), rent money etc...

Are they going to get unemployment benefits? Barry is going to sign into law the unemployment jobless benefits extension this coming Monday. Which is reported on average to give $300 per week to the unemployed that qualify for the benefits.

Too bad the rise in gas prices will make everything cost more which will wipe out any good the benefits will have. Oh yeah who's fault is it now for high gas prices?

The justice department is run by Eric Holder who was appointed by the greatest president in all of U.S. history Barry O.

So lets see who blames who for this crap. All I can say is the DEA has always been against MMJ so at least they are not flip flopping like the justice department. We know who is against MMJ but who is really friends of MMJ?

yea its all obamas fault! hell it rained real hard today and i dont feel that great and my dog ate a tampon....fucking obama
 

supermanlives

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only one loosing cash is the state. everyone with a car that worked at several disp here just went to delivery. well the ones i know of anyhow. if you dont have to maintain a store front you make more, your harder to track/raid, and you can forget about taxes LOL to anyone that lost their job i am sorry but ya knew it was risky. and i am sure you helped alot of sick folks and hopefully they can still get some meds
 

Useful Idiot

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Another reason to keep it underground!!! Med State??? Will your state protect you when the hammer falls???? NO!! Fly under the radar folks.
 

SKUNK420

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yea its all obamas fault! hell it rained real hard today and I don't feel that great and my dog ate a tampon....fucking obama
I did not say it's Barry's fault. My point was it's a political tactic used by the Democrat politicians of this state learned from Barry's former chief of staff "to not let a crisis go to waste".

Barry did appoint Eric Holder as the Chief of the Justice Department. Eric did issue a memo in early 2009 saying his department and the DEA and other Fed agencies would not prosecute people in medical states that were following state law. Now the DEA is shutting down MMJ dispensaries in the PRK. The problem is the D.A. the the PRK can decide that your store is not following state law and make you go to court to "prove yourself innocent".
I say it like that because we are supposed to be innocent until proven guilty but perception seems to be you have to prove yourself innocent at times. Whether it be with being a legal MMJ user, grower, or dispensary operator or something you do to a car. I repair & modify cars for work and people gotta prove the mods to be smog and road legal all the time.

The Democrats the House & the Senate and of course Barry is the POTUS. Kalyphornyia is a Democrat controlled state. Barry could have asked congress to reform marijuana laws and forced change of the DEA policies towards marijuana but Barry didn't. People fell for Barry's change and hope campaign slogan. Things have changed and some people are hoping not to go to jail now.


only one loosing cash is the state. everyone with a car that worked at several disp here just went to delivery. well the ones i know of anyhow. if you dont have to maintain a store front you make more, your harder to track/raid, and you can forget about taxes LOL to anyone that lost their job i am sorry but ya knew it was risky. and i am sure you helped alot of sick folks and hopefully they can still get some meds

That's what is so hypocritical of MMJ supporters that support and vote for Democrat politicians. If these delivery services do not pay taxes or full taxes by under reporting their earning like other businesses do Then the state can not redistribute the tax money in the form of social services for the 99% and illegal immigrants of the PRK.

That is just as self-centered and greedy as the corporate phat cats.
 

Useful Idiot

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That's what is so hypocritical of MMJ supporters that support and vote for Democrat politicians. If these delivery services do not pay taxes or full taxes by under reporting their earning like other businesses do Then the state can not redistribute the tax money in the form of social services for the 99% and illegal immigrants of the PRK.

That is just as self-centered and greedy as the corporate phat cats.
It's called goin underground. The med states are bein fucked over by the fed. What are they to do??? How in the hell can you call that greedy??? They WERE paying taxes and such,then STILL get fucked be the fed. What would YOU suggest they do??? I really would like to hear your sollution.
 

SKUNK420

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So it's my responsibility to provide a solution to you?
Go talk to your state rep about that. That is why you voted them in, if you even voted and if you did not then just keep doing what you are doing and not give a F!ck. You're underground, your a survivor. Good for you

I would quit believing in Democrats first off. How's that Democrat state D.A. helping things out? I did not say the Republican is a better choice either.

So it's okay to do bad because the state and federal government is doing bad? I guess we should all stop paying taxes? Are you ready for complete collapse of the system? Not that it is not already going to happen in a decade or two but it'll happen sooner if all business owners stopped.

One of the many reasons for the lack of funds in this state is because people of all businesses under report their earnings to the state and the state over spends money it does not have.
 

Useful Idiot

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When the Fed approves MMJ,we will be just fine,till then........we are screwed!!! The Fed has swung their big dick and are proving that your state has NO say!! pretty fucked if you ask me .
 

Useful Idiot

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So it's my responsibility to provide a solution to you?
Go talk to your state rep about that. That is why you voted them in, if you even voted and if you did not then just keep doing what you are doing and not give a F!ck. You're underground, your a survivor. Good for you

I would quit believing in Democrats first off. How's that Democrat state D.A. helping things out? I did not say the Republican is a better choice either.

So it's okay to do bad because the state and federal government is doing bad?

One of the many reasons for the lack of funds in this state is because people of all businesses under report their earnings to the state and the state over spends money it does not have do not have.
Yes. You should offer a solution to the folks who have been busted by the Fed and decided to go underground to protect themselves and family when you make a comment like you did.You know what??? you are right,after all this time providing meds under state law,then getting busted by the fed,they should just burn any remaining product,then get a job at a fast food joint!!! Or go underground. What would you do???
 

SKUNK420

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whats funny is I gave you positive rep points and agreed with your underground statement. Saying that until they can fully figure it out for medical or recreational use I'd rather it be underground. it's not right but it wasn't a cluster F@uck as it is now.

your solution seems is to not pay taxes and stay underground. Well if that works for you then do it. To each his own.
Do as you please but I'm not getting sucked into the internet argument black hole.
 
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