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jersey cop kills man

stoned-trout

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well lets see how this is played out.. one of the officers is black and did most of the shooting...the victim had his hands up in dashcam video...like others the victim wasn't no angel....they already removed the handgun from the car and the guy had his hands up upon leaving the car....
 

armedoldhippy

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well lets see how this is played out.. one of the officers is black and did most of the shooting...the victim had his hands up in dashcam video

yeah, I watched that earlier. I guess when they say "DON'T MOVE!", raising your hands in surrender looks pretty threatening...
 

StoneyK

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His past should have made exactly zero difference.
Another bitch ass cop that should be taken out an beaten to death by the victims family.
We need to just take their guns away non lethal weapons only.
 

stoned-trout

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How about this one:

Howard Morgan Shot 28 Times By Chicago Cops, Sentenced To 40 Years

What do you think about this one stoned-trout and anyone else?

I never liked that whole state... did my work there and got the hell out quick...wouldn't go back if paid double and weed...
 

LEF

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Maybe non lethal would be better but then youd have to shelter and feed them after,
i already have to work for myself wouldnt want to work for criminals.

You want to pay for them ?

death penalty is cost effective
 

LEF

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I've heard that in China, the government harvests the organs of people who got death penalty without their consent.
 

amannamedtruth

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planning on or actually running is no reason to be shot...ya like ALL the other people so far he was no angel tho

I never said that was a reason to shoot. Thats just how I interpereted his actions. The cop, knowing his history may have interpereted them as " this guy had one gun in the glove box, and may have one on him now, and is gonna shoot me." I can't put myself in that cops shoes, fortunately.
 

cocktail frank

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The passenger who got shot was trying to force his way out of the car from how I saw it.
I'm not saying the shooting was right, but if a cop tells me he's going to shoot me if I don't comply, I'm gonna listen. The driver was being compliant and it turned out pretty well for him, minus the cleanup.
 

Stoner4Life

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The passenger who got shot was trying to force his way out of the car from how I saw it.
I'm not saying the shooting was right, but if a cop tells me he's going to shoot me if I don't comply, I'm gonna listen. The driver was being compliant and it turned out pretty well for him, minus the cleanup.

QFT.

suspect was already known to have shot at police recently. the officers DID pull a gun from the glovebox but until the suspect is thoroughly searched they'd have NO idea if he's carrying another gun on his person. suspect was being non-compliant by exiting the car in either an attempt to run or to do harm to the officers. had they let him run, he might have stopped only a few feet away and opened fire if he were carrying another gun although he wasn't.


and jesus christ almighty!!! if 2014 has taught us one thing and one thing alone it's this.......

"Being unarmed and raising your empty hands in surrender in the face of uniformed officers will surely get you killed. NOTHING in this country it seems is more fearsome than a submissive unarmed (black) man. so it goes.

 

StoneyK

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Maybe non lethal would be better but then youd have to shelter and feed them after,
i already have to work for myself wouldnt want to work for criminals.

You want to pay for them ?

death penalty is cost effective

Òr maybe just NOT make our criminal system a fuckin profitable business so we dont have to house people over bullshit.
If you had any idea how the system worked you would be shocked.
Jails here in cali are manìpulated kept over crowded ON PURPOSE to get more money you think it takes 6-8 hours to get a ticket an get site released????
Fuck no but if they keep you then they get paid for a full day of housing!
These fuckin pigs are dirty in every way imaginable.

And just for the record being a cop doest even make the top 10 most dangerous jobs but they need guns? No europe seems to do fine without em, the criminals arent running things over there like they like to scare us into thinking things will be if they dont get ar15s for their squad cars ànd armored vehicles the criminals will just take over.
Funny thing os the crimìnals have taken over....

Theyre called police
 

stoned-trout

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dude had his hands up...hard to shoot a hidden gun with your hands up...I have had a lot of police encounters as a youth...got away from em several times...guess I am lucky I aint black...
 

Stoner4Life

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Òr maybe just NOT make our criminal system a fuckin profitable business so we dont have to house people over bullshit.
If you had any idea how the system worked you would be shocked.
Jails here in cali are manìpulated kept over crowded ON PURPOSE to get more money you think it takes 6-8 hours to get a ticket an get site released????
Fuck no but if they keep you then they get paid for a full day of housing!
These fuckin pigs are dirty in every way imaginable.

And just for the record being a cop doest even make the top 10 most dangerous jobs but they need guns? No europe seems to do fine without em, the criminals arent running things over there like they like to scare us into thinking things will be if they dont get ar15s for their squad cars ànd armored vehicles the criminals will just take over.
Funny thing os the crimìnals have taken over....

Theyre called police

are they all bad???

the other day I was passing 2 cars on some 2 lane blacktop while I had the passing lane (lines) in my favor, my car is supercharged it it really kicks ass, I was doing about 85mph and gaining on the 2nd car but also on the cars approaching me head on in the southbound lanes.

I completed the pass just about the time I noticed the oncoming car was a state trooper, great. I knew I was gonna get stopped and so I pulled over fast n' hard (a patented move of mine) so that the officer gives no chase.

by the time he walks up to my window I have both hands on the wheel and I'm immediately interrupting his "I guess you know why you're being stopped today...." spiel. One of the conditions of my concealed carry permit is to immed inform leo that I am armed which is what I did. He asked where the gun was (right next to me, tucked & concealed in the console) and when I told him he just said, "well as long as your hands don't go near it we won't have any problems," I assured him that my hands weren't going to leave the steering wheel at all.

he took my license, I couldn't locate my insurance cards, he didn't even want to see my valid carry permit and went back to his car to run my dl info. he came back (fast), handed me my license and asked that I not run him off the road ever again, I didn't even get a written warning for speed.


so some of them (this is real rural northern MN) can be real cordial when interacting with armed citizens. idk, maybe I got no tickets because he just wanted to get the flock out of there because I had a gun, writing a summons is certainly distracting to his keeping an eye on my arm movements.

 

StoneyK

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Are they all bad probably not...
BUT enough of them are and abuse their power so that its a bad idea that they are armed.
Your guy sounds like he was doin his job.
Im not saying we dont need some sort of law enforcement to keep society on the rails so to speak, but do we need armed armored vehicles, automatic weapons and cops in body armor who look more like armed invading soldiers than public servants meant to protect and serve us????
Ya know what gimmie a damn robot!!!
they might not cut breaks but they wont be the crooked easily influenced and corrupted thugs that we call police these days if you get busted it wont be because your black or some other idiotic pre concieved predjudice or being profiled.
So yea in this case the 90% bad apples definitely spoil the bunch.
 

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