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JockBudman

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Wee shot of the flower tent as she was Friday night

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Seems the haze are done stretchin already. Was hopin they'd get bigger but ah well. Gonnae pot them and the zamaldelica up the night and see if this pot up trick works.

Got sexbud and zkittzo out the soil an all.

Ma main issue at the moment is a heavy fungus gnat infestation in the veg tent. Ah'm worried about puttin new seedlings in if they're just gonnae get fucked so they've germed on the windae sill but they'll need tae go up soon now they're out the soil. Gonnae try gettin some cheap tights tae stick the pots in so the gnats cannae get tae the drainage holes, then keep the top two inch of soil dry wae bottom feedin. See if that does the trick.
 

JockBudman

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A wee photo update frae the weekend.

The boys are stripped and dumped - took all the branches off and stuck then in water to collect the last of the pollen having already got a chunk frae the heads.

Here's a shot of each before killing them off -

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First up is the tall one. Best smell on the stem, very powerful fruity, spicy, skunk.

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Shortest one. No much tae say about him really, carrot smells on the stem.

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Lastly the top boy. This is the one ah'd pick for line breeding if ah wasn't looking tae f2. Best structure, best flower formation, prolific wae the pollen and has a good smell, little bit menthol mebbe?

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Pollen collected frae the tops. Already more than enough but am still doin the branches as one of the tops gave up and wilted after a day or two in the water cup. Some wee branches have an all so ah think they may be off the same boy. Ah didnae label as all ah wanted was a mix tae get all the genetics saved. Tbh though am pretty sure it's the wee one, but ah still want his pollen in there coz you never know - he could be hiding the best high or a rare Thai throwback.

Pollination will be this weekend - gonnae do zamal X zamal, haze X zamal, haze X skunk and mango catpiss X skunk. The others will be done when they flower.

Get some diatomacous earth

Thanks for the tip pal. Ah've actually used it before an got mixed results plus this was an urgent disaster so ah just let them dry near to death and stuck up a fly paper, which seems tae have worked.

Ah feel guilty as ah hate using fly paper being vegan, so in future ah might get some diatomaceous earth and mix it in top and bottom of the pot tae have a preventative rather than a cure. Ah feel it's best tae encourage bugs tae fuck off before you need tae kill them.
 

Jayded

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Looking good Jock,should be some interesting plants from the X's.
Does the mango catpiss smell like the name?
 
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Benny106

Needs to be a clay like layer on top to break the breeding cycle, i also had good luck with hypoapsis (sp) predatory mites.
 

JockBudman

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Looking good Jock,should be some interesting plants from the X's.
Does the mango catpiss smell like the name?

Well ah say mango but my girlfriend and her sister both said cat piss so it's a compromise :biglaugh:

It's definitely a less common scent, when burnin it's a bit like some charas ah toked in Amsterdam. A mate of mine said it didn't even smell much like weed tae him - but he was upwind.
 

JockBudman

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Needs to be a clay like layer on top to break the breeding cycle, i also had good luck with hypoapsis (sp) predatory mites.

Ah-ha in that case ah might get some in for future. The gnats have definitely stunted the seedlings which is shite as am working tae a timetable and want tae shut the tent down over winter tae avoid the cold that killed me last year.

Think ah'll need tae do the zkittzo and sex bud pretty much 12-12 from seed in a few weeks once they can get a pot up.

Just had tae pot up the quick critical as well - she was all stretched and pale lookin and the roots are just pure shite. Nothin like they normally are, barely there at all tbh. Gutter.
 

JockBudman

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Just a wee tent shot from last night. Ah've no had much time with the plants lately an the loft is fuckin roastin so ah don't want tae be up there much at the moment.

Also had tae unplug the hps for now due tae the high temps - got up tae 38 the other day so it's led only til it calms down a bit.

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Front right is the smaller haze, left the smaller zamaldelica. Behind that with the bent stem is the bigger zam, far left is the taller haze, also bent and last in the back right corner is mango catpiss.

All apart from the mango had a wee dust of zam pollen last night. Ah'll repeat it in the same branches again over the next week tae make sure it takes. Skunk dusting will be later on in the week when the mango has more hairs on the go.

Found a wee pollen sack on my biggest zamal an all. Bit of a gutter but the zamal is known tae chuck hermies and the Thai in this cross cannae help (pretty sure the big one is a Thai dominant pheno as it just keep stretching. Ah'll get better shots soon outside the tent.)
Dunno if I've got it soon enough no tae have fucked up the crossin but there's fuck all ah can do now.
 

JockBudman

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Just went tae check if the zamals needed more pollen and they've both hermied.

Ah dunno how ah feel tbh. For a start this bit of the seed run is fucked an all the f2s ahve made aren't worth keepin. The boys were pretty solid though so maybe the haze crosses will be ok. But both haze an both zamaldelicas are covered in brown hairs so I'll be gettin at least a seed or two per bud. Not the worst thing in the world but still fuckin annoyin.

Ah could've assumed it was an early release on a boy but ah also found a wee banana on the smaller zamal so that's one on each. Couldn't find any more though so it may be the boys, especially as the seeds ah found on the two zamal were pretty far along. No seeds on the haze though.

Ah fuck it, ah don't know. This bit is fucked though.

And the skunk pollen doesn't seem to have taken on the MCP. Fuck all this growing shit man.:cuss:
 

JockBudman

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Right. I'm back.

Honestly guys, it's been a fucker of a month. The fungus gnats went haywire an then ah found webbin on the veg plants - the fuckin borg! Almost killed everythin.

Luckily ah caught it early an two weeks of sprayin with cayenne pepper spray has kept them at bay - no seen any more webs or leaf damage since ah started. The zkittzo was heavy stunted by it tho so she's tae veg longer. The grapefruit went intae flower last night an the sexbud an quick critical are gettin a pot up the day.

In the flower tent things are no great but no as bad as the veg. Mango cp got underfed a bit which means ah'll take a knock on yield. It's ma ain fault for bein a bit less focussed than usual but still annoyin. Zamaldelica both have N tox an the haze are takin forever an a day tae do their thing.

Here's some photies from the other night

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So aye, N tox. Ma personal cross tae bear coz ah can never seem tae get it sorted - always end up needin tae feed for other nutrients an N is in all the flower feeds too. Just gonnae keep them on plain water as much as possible really. Hazes are getting fuck all nutrient anyway.

Good news is nae more nanas. Plenty of seedin but as so many of them are developed already, am now pretty sure it was an early release by the boys a few month back. Seed savin is back on.

Sadly the mango cp didn't take the skunk pollen at all. Still gonnae try on the grapefruit et al but ah think it's just too old.
 

JockBudman

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Aaaaaaaaand...


Here's a shot of the veg tent

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Grapefruit in the back corner is in flower as of last night. Ah'm hopin these four yield coz ah need an average of 20g per plant tae see me through winter and a spring grow next year. Doubt ah'll get that frae the hazes so ah need tae do well wi these.:whistling:
 

JockBudman

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A few shots from the night

First up, the zamaldelica an haze -

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Too much N but they seem tae be doin fine now ah've just got them on water. It's a bit cluttered under the light but there's gonnae be space soon...

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Mango catpiss gettin close now, mebbe two week out. Ah wis worried about it tbh but she's fillin in pretty well, strugglin tae stay up.


Now the new stuff -

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Grapefruit front right, quick critical left an the wee one in the back is sex bud.

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Quick critical right, zkittzo left.

No much tae dae now but water an wait...
 

JockBudman

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Got the mango cp out the tent for a look last night - probably the last before she gets chopped.

Ah think y'll see why ah loved this one, heavy as fuck, leanin all over and frosty too. Smells like a mix of tropical fruits and spice and incense wi a taste more on the spicy incense end.
The high is full on and lasts ages, just makes me a bit para sometimes so that's why this is the last tango.

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Leanin all over the place

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Buds are really puttin on weight now an after thinkin the pollination didnae work, it looks like ah've got a few wee seeds frae the skunk. Happy daze :laughing:
 

JockBudman

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Got a few shots of the big girls last night. First up is the hazes -

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An the zamaldelica. Only got pics of the smaller one for some reason, totally forgot about the other one -

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There's a few more of the whole tent but ah'll stick that in the next post
 

JockBudman

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Here's shots of the whole tent - or as best as I can do anyway, it's no easy wi the crowdin

This is the right hand side wi the mango cp crowdin out the front an the hybrids in the back.

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Mango still no done, ah guess another week mebbe. The hybrids are doin ok so far, zkittzo is really impressin me the now, great smells, vigorous growth, fast tae bud - even faster than the quick critical so far an that's meant tae be done in 6-8 weeks of flower. Ahm thinkin of tryin the last of ma pollen on her tae make up for the grapefruit - coz it hermed.
That's always a possibility wi female seeds stuff an ah did catch it early, picked off mebbe 6 pods total. Ma best grapefruit from the first grow ah did of them hermed as well but ah wanted tae find a non herm pheno for the cross. Ah well. Still gonnae try tae pollinate the QC an zkittzo as mentioned.

Next up the left hand side dominated by the bigger zamaldelica that ah didnae take photos of -

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Most of the buds there are the big zamaldelica but that's no a bad thing. They're both lookin great, mebbe another 3 weeks - although ah usually underestimate so mebbe more. Looks like lovely stuff an the yield on the wee one looks tae be decent even though the buds are airy.

More interestingly, ah've smelt her smells before. Now ah know plants share terps an one smellin like another doesn't mean much, but... Ah had a clone mum for a few years, called Purple Queen. She came out a pack of ace mix an dubi confirmed it as a pck cross wi a sativa, but he didnae know which one.
Well based on smell, ah think it might've been zamaldelica. Here's a photo or two anyway -

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Now ah could be totally off but the growth of the buds was ringin a bell too, though plenty plants grow similar as well as smell similar. But the buzz off the Queen was excellent, like a shot of coffee that somehow calmed and invigorated so ahm hopin for a similar high off these in a month or so.
 

JockBudman

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Finally took the mango down the night at jist oer 12 weeks. Took a few quick shots for posterity

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The haze is finally gettin a wee bit frosty but still a while away frae comin down, zamaldelica mebbe a bit sooner. The others are gettin deficiencies frae bein infected wae gnats still. Need tae wait for the soil tae dry then give them a good feedin.

Ganja gu brah
 

JockBudman

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Well it's no been a good month really, too busy tae drop in here an tent been heavy neglected. Result was overwaterin as the temps dipped an ah kept the same schedule. Rookie error. RH poked up tae 87% an the cold an wet ootside is causing chaos - ah've stuck a tube heater in but even wi the max size ah can fit in the tent it's still no bringin the temps above 25C at lights on.

Anyway, ah took doon the zamaldelica over two weeks ago an it's still no dry enough tae jar coz of the cold and humid weather. Moved it out the attic tae dry in a cupboard in a heated room but still no dry. Dehuey now in there as well so hopefully ah can jar soon. It won't affect it, the slower the better an ah still have bits around frae the start of the year that should see me through the winter.

Here's a few shots of the zamals the day they came down

Short pheno -

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Tall pheno -

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Ah've had a few vapes off this stuff just frae buds too wee tae hang up an it's some of the finest ganja ah've ever had the pleasure of tootin. Ah find the high both relaxin and motivatin, a bit speedy but never edgy and the small pheno can give me a couchlock effect at times. Almost certain the Purple Queen mum ah kept frae an Ace mix selection is a zamaldelica X pck - smell and effect are dead on with just a bit less low end.
So far ah've pulled out about a dozen seeds frae each an there's still sporadic ones throughout the buds. Have tae mark them as possible herms but the high is worth line breeding in future tae get that out or at least keep it minimal. Excellent stuff so far an ah cannae wait til it's been curin for a month or three.

Ah'll continue in another post for more photos...
 

JockBudman

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An so tae the rest...

Haze is near done, ah'm thinkin this weekend as the buds are frostin as much as ah think they ever will an the trichs are mostly cloudy. They're both well in senesence anyway an look rough as fuck - imagine these comin photos but wi aw the yellow leaf now brown.
Ah took a wee tester branch as well an ah liked the high even wi a short dry an no cure. Nice an relaxin wi a pressure band across the eyes - a good base tae start wi, as ah hear OT Haze needs a few month in the jar before it's worth tryin.
Hairs are still showin a ton of white at the tips the mo, but frae what ah've read they won't ever stop til she's totally dead. Pretty sure they're only ripenin up now coz ah stuck them in the corner away frae direct light as recommended in a thread ah found somewhere on here.

Here's some shots frae two week back -

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Breedin wise am pretty sure ah got a few haze X zamaldelica but ah think the skunk pollen failed on everything tbh. Shite but it is what it is an nature doesn't give a fuck about ma efforts.

The hybrids are looking fuckin awful so ah won't be postin them up. Just no been treated right at all so it's ma own fault but means ah may be pushed into an auto grow over the winter tae bridge the gap afore the spring grow comes down as yields will be way down on what ah need. Was hopin for a few months break but it is what it is eh?
Ah can give a wee shout out tae the Zkittzo frae Real Gorilla Seeds which came through the worst mite infestation an shrugged off the gnats tae end up lookin fat, pretty and smellin amazin. Yield is very low as wi all these that ah fucked up, but it's the least ratty lookin an am quite impressed wi what is there - definitely insta bud for sure. She's comin doon the night or the morra night ah think, trichs are hard tae figure out on this one an ah can't tell if they're too far or no far enough. But the buds look tight an the hairs are red so doon she comes along wi the haze.

Mango catpiss is curin in the jar - 20g of top bud, 24g of popcorn and crap that will be for shortages or a hash run if ah have enough tae no need it. Still the same old mango cp really, strong as fuck, puts me on edge an stinks and tastes of tropical fruits, hash an piss. No found any seed yet frae the skunk pollen an ah don't expect to really. Be a good bonus but ah won't hold ma breath, although tbh ah have way more seed than ah could ever grow out in ma current situation an a load of those lines are regs that will get f2d an linebred. Ah'm at the start of a lifetime project workin wi pure sativa lines an creatin the herb ma mind needs.

Next post hopefully won't be too long away this time an then ah'll dae vape reports after it's all dry.

Hope yous are all well

Ganja gu brah
 

JockBudman

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Took the haze an zkittzo last night. Just decided tae call it really, they had all cloudy trichs - here's a few photos

Zkittzo

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Haze

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Zamaldelica is dry an jarred an all. Ah collected most of the seeds while ah was trimmin - got 26 frae the tall pheno an 32 from the wee one. Plenty tae breed wi in future
 
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