maybe two more 150s or a 250w + the 150 you have, would give you dense nuggs:wink: lol i like BIG things lol. POM i would definitely try another 150 at least. love your space!
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My advice is to get another 150 watt hps. Keep the 150 you have now above the plants, and use the other 150 for deep canopy penetration in the middle of the 4 plants. Be sure to give the plants a one quarter turn every day so that each part of the plant gets light. But with the deep canopy penetration you don't have to cut off any popcorn budsites and you can let your plants grow tall without having to worry that the lower budsites aren't getting enough light. 
*edit* as for the heat off the 150 that you could possibly use for deep canopy penetration, as long as you have the fan that i've seen in your other pics blowing right on the bulb you won't have any problems. (back of that hand trick will let you know for sure)
*and one more thing! If you are about to have a smell problem, just have a thing of ona gel sitting in your grow room. With 4 small plants it probably won't get rid of all the smell, but it will mask a good majority of it. They have ona in the hydro shops here in Canada, but otherwise I suggest going into lowes, explaining to them that your kid threw up everywhere in a bathroom and although you have it cleaned up, you would like something that isn't an aerosol and kills odor in the air. They should have something.
*edit* as for the heat off the 150 that you could possibly use for deep canopy penetration, as long as you have the fan that i've seen in your other pics blowing right on the bulb you won't have any problems. (back of that hand trick will let you know for sure)
*and one more thing! If you are about to have a smell problem, just have a thing of ona gel sitting in your grow room. With 4 small plants it probably won't get rid of all the smell, but it will mask a good majority of it. They have ona in the hydro shops here in Canada, but otherwise I suggest going into lowes, explaining to them that your kid threw up everywhere in a bathroom and although you have it cleaned up, you would like something that isn't an aerosol and kills odor in the air. They should have something.
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I was planning on hanging the light beside my other. What is this deep penetration (hahaha) that you speak of?
Where do I put the light?
Where do I put the light?
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I'm of prime age to make sexual jokes and would just like to point out that you did it first! So enough of trying to keep my posts professional for this thread lol.
Here's a pic that I so drew in paint:
Alright, so as crappy as that picture is I hope it has taught you what deep canopy penetration is.
*edit* god dammit...I can't get this picture to show. So anyways, here is the link to it, and it's in my gallery too lol.
Success with the picture! Finally! Anyways, I hope that clears up your questions about deep canopy penetration. If not PM me...again.
Here's a pic that I so drew in paint:
Alright, so as crappy as that picture is I hope it has taught you what deep canopy penetration is.
*edit* god dammit...I can't get this picture to show. So anyways, here is the link to it, and it's in my gallery too lol.
Success with the picture! Finally! Anyways, I hope that clears up your questions about deep canopy penetration. If not PM me...again.
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That's a pretty clever idea. I guess the rotation is because they'll tend to lean in toward the light because it's so tasty to them. =) Thanks for the info.
POHM - Very nice setup - You probably would be fine with the one HPS light u have now - but if you get another, I would probably toss in some more babies.
POHM - Very nice setup - You probably would be fine with the one HPS light u have now - but if you get another, I would probably toss in some more babies.
Ok I understand. Thanks for the professional drawing buddy and the laugh hehehe.
So I have to figure out how to have it sitting in there. Man, you're making me think!!!!!
So I have to figure out how to have it sitting in there. Man, you're making me think!!!!!
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Jam Master Jaco
With other examples of deep canopy penetration that I have seen the growers used the bulb's cord and just hung it down into the canopy between their plants.
Alright, I'm not in the mindset to explain this well, but hopefully it makes sense. On that light intensity chart on some other thread it said that a 150 watt bulb's greatest light intensity was between 4 and 8 inches of the bulb. So what you could do is have one 150 4 inches above the plants, then have the deep canopy penetration at 12 inches from that bulb.
Bulb 1- 4 inches above plants, it's intense light extends 8 inches.
Bulb 2 (the deep canopy bulb)- hung by its own cord from the cieling to 8 inches further into the middle of the plants from bulb 1.
A vertical scrog would work wonders in your setup. Buy some chicken wire at lowes and your off. With 4 plants and 2 150 watt hps lights in a vertical scrog you could pull an easy qp.
Alright, I'm not in the mindset to explain this well, but hopefully it makes sense. On that light intensity chart on some other thread it said that a 150 watt bulb's greatest light intensity was between 4 and 8 inches of the bulb. So what you could do is have one 150 4 inches above the plants, then have the deep canopy penetration at 12 inches from that bulb.
Bulb 1- 4 inches above plants, it's intense light extends 8 inches.
Bulb 2 (the deep canopy bulb)- hung by its own cord from the cieling to 8 inches further into the middle of the plants from bulb 1.
A vertical scrog would work wonders in your setup. Buy some chicken wire at lowes and your off. With 4 plants and 2 150 watt hps lights in a vertical scrog you could pull an easy qp.
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Gotcha. I printed out your pic and it looked like it was sitting straight up. Actually hanging it down in the plants would be very easy to do and I have plenty of room. Thank you very much sweetie.
Few pics I took today. Starting 2 week in flower.
The first 2 are my White Rhino, still can't tell sex. Any ideas why the new growth is so much lighter in color?
These 2 pics are of A 11.
These are another a 11. See that one area on the left with droopy leaves?
The first 2 are my White Rhino, still can't tell sex. Any ideas why the new growth is so much lighter in color?
These 2 pics are of A 11.
These are another a 11. See that one area on the left with droopy leaves?
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Hahaha you found mine now I found yours :wink: . yea looks like everyone has you on the right track, add some CFLs to the center and around the outside if you have them and place the 150 above. Your plants look plenty healthy, you will do fine with this grow 
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. yea looks like everyone has you on the right track, add some CFLs to the center and around the outside if you have them and place the 150 above. Your plants look plenty healthy, you will do fine with this grow 70s
I see it. Lack of turgor or wilting of the top leaves could be a failure to form lignin in the xylem because of lacking the copper containing proteins phenolase and laccase. In other words, you may be lacking copper. This is probably because of a high ph as suggested in my previous response.pieceofmyheart said:
wow girl sounds like your workn your way upto 400w eh
A vertical scrog would work wonders in your setup. Buy some chicken wire at lowes and your off. With 4 plants and 2 150 watt hps lights in a vertical scrog you could pull an easy qp. as quoted by jammaster
but a 400w hps could fetch way more under a scrogg screen, a atainable 1/2 lb.
i have 10 girls scrogged no training under a 400w hps and should see if not lb real real close. my veg was with 280w cfls
A vertical scrog would work wonders in your setup. Buy some chicken wire at lowes and your off. With 4 plants and 2 150 watt hps lights in a vertical scrog you could pull an easy qp. as quoted by jammaster
but a 400w hps could fetch way more under a scrogg screen, a atainable 1/2 lb.
i have 10 girls scrogged no training under a 400w hps and should see if not lb real real close. my veg was with 280w cfls
Cords all up and out of the way now. :smile:
hi POMH
I would suggest a 250w hps that is if you can find that ?
Nice to hear you got more space ... and that your enjoying it too!
You dont look like you need much help with this one ... seem to have it done ....!
Looking Beautiful
Peace
I would suggest a 250w hps that is if you can find that ?
Nice to hear you got more space ... and that your enjoying it too!
You dont look like you need much help with this one ... seem to have it done ....!
Looking Beautiful
Peace
Sproutco, they are in flower. Just started second week. I have a separate veg area and I am taking cuttings soon, maybe tomorrow.
On a very good note, the 2 White Rhino's that I started from seed are both females! Can you imagine how happy I was? They are so healthy and full I was dreading the possibility of them being male. So unless they hermie on me, they have hairs they are very obvious to me.
Delta, I am adding another 150 hps, went to Lowes yesterday and they were out of the 150's. I am putting it right beside the one I have. I thought of the whole deep canopy penetration but this is going to be easier for me right now.
Maj P, I am going to read up on scrog, and the vertical method was mentioned by a few people so I'll be sure to read about that too. Then I will do it on my next grow. I've been spending a lot of time on this and I'm getting kinda burnt out.
Thanks for the replies and suggestions guys, I appreciate it.
On a very good note, the 2 White Rhino's that I started from seed are both females! Can you imagine how happy I was? They are so healthy and full I was dreading the possibility of them being male. So unless they hermie on me, they have hairs they are very obvious to me.
Delta, I am adding another 150 hps, went to Lowes yesterday and they were out of the 150's. I am putting it right beside the one I have. I thought of the whole deep canopy penetration but this is going to be easier for me right now.
Maj P, I am going to read up on scrog, and the vertical method was mentioned by a few people so I'll be sure to read about that too. Then I will do it on my next grow. I've been spending a lot of time on this and I'm getting kinda burnt out.
Thanks for the replies and suggestions guys, I appreciate it.
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Hi POMH!
I'm really glad ou got them power-cords up off the bottom. Hate to have my sweetie get fried.
Seed
I'm really glad ou got them power-cords up off the bottom. Hate to have my sweetie get fried.
Seed
Plan change. I decided to stick with the 1, 150 hps that I have for now. I really only need to do 4 plants at a time and I don't want the worry of more heat and odor. Right now, both are remarkably under control.
So I got another windshield thing and placed it around the plants. I feel they are getting much better concentrated light and I still have the extra space around it to dissipate heat.
I'm going to finish out this grow right like this and see how it does.
So I got another windshield thing and placed it around the plants. I feel they are getting much better concentrated light and I still have the extra space around it to dissipate heat.
I'm going to finish out this grow right like this and see how it does.
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