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i've lost all hope for humanity..ugh

Eighths-n-Aces

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Back in the day you would have to be Bruce Lee or bat shit crazy to raise a hand to a female in public. Then the lawyers got involved ...........

We have not evolved a whole lot lately.
 

1TWISTEDTRUCKER

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This is EXACTLY why I have so much trouble with Society, and the point to which civility, has DEVLOVED, I have put My self at risk MANY times when some here would say it is none of My BIZZ.
The abusive Male Female dynamic is one that is always a No win deal, cause it realy is a blind/ignorant deal. The 2 times ive involved Myself in public displays of abuse both ended with Me in conflict w/ the Punk, and his sick Bitch that puts up w/that shit.
My wife an I were only married a year when she realized I cant watch some one get Boot STOMPED, either.
We were out late one Friday, around 130AM Bars close at 200,so most folks are trying to get to the store to buy More alcohol B4 200AM.
WE are sitting at a stop light, She was driving cause I was suspended 4 habitual violations.
A old beater 70 chevy p/u comes roaring to the intersection we were stopped at. His light caught him and he slides to a stop. another POS 70's Chevy p/u slides to a stop behind trk #1 driver and passenger in trk #2 bail out running to Trk #1 Driver(drunk)#1 bails out and turns to driver #2 just in time to take a shot to the nose that put Driver #1 on 1 knee, just in time for passenger #2 to at a FULL run to plant and kick driver #1 under the chin hard enough to lift him off his knee and flip his scrawny ASS like a Flap Jack,,, dude landed on His face,, OUT like a Light. This is a devided 4 lane, and they are on the dotted line on their side of the median strip between east and west lanes.

Our light turns green, and the wife starts to take off,,, well the asholes in trk #2 are stomping a mud hole in this unconious drunks ass.
My wifes freaking as im on the way out the door,, telling h
Her to go to the QT and call an ambulance cause this Cats hurt Bad.
I walk towards the Hat Dance in progress and as I start across the the firs two lanes, passenger notices Me, taps his buddy, now they are telling Me how this cats,,,, I tell um Hes DONE, and so are they....Just leave,, I kept walking, and as Cowards will do they left.
A guy across the intersection seen and at least came to help Me watch so this Guy didn't get run over once the assholes got tired of kicking Him.
Dude had blood leaking outta his eyes. Lumps and gash's every where.
The cops got there and took My info,and the other guys aswell.
I thought for sure I was going to be getting a call to testify in a murder trial, but I never got 1 call from a Dick, or Prosecuter. Don't know what happened to Dude to this day. what ever happened.
Id like to think if My son was getting STOMPED TO DEATH in public Someone would help him.
There is NO WAY I could live with My self reading bout how some Cat was found run over and killed at that intersection,,, Knowing I could have done SOMETHING,, anything.
This was 1988, so No Cell phones.

PEACE & LOVE; 1TT
 

Jericho Mile

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Blind and ignorant, eh? I would say the rest of the fucks were, including you.

Lucky? No. He can fight.

Never step into someone's relationship? Is that a fucking rule, or do you step in after some gets a blood-clot in the brain and dies?

And saving the day? Nobody does it to be a hero. People see someone being hurt, not an opportunity to play hero boy.

That's how their relationship works? So, casual abuse is a relationship.

You actually understand why a man would hit a woman... Which is fucked up. Real men don't even think about it..never crosses their mind.

Wow, go out and create a wonderful relationship for yourself bro, since that's where your standards that you accept are at.

You need to settle down. Where I did i say...I understand why a man hits a woman? I'm not condoning anyone getting hit...but there is a reason why cops don't enjoy going to domestic violence calls...

emotions involved...like look at you dude...flying off the handle with conjecture.

The fact is: some dudes hit their women...and some of those women..accept that and some...even hit back. Some don't. You and I might not like that...but that's not our business....unless you feel you need to step into...someone else's business.

Your exciting name calling...really demonstrates your unbalance to reasoning. Step into whatever you want dude...run to the lights and sirens...but maybe...think about what you are doing..before you do it. Maybe...you are not really invited...or needed. All relationships be different...not universal...not all the same.

and for christ sakes...don't let alcohol fuel the knight in shining armor image. Now... goddamn it Zimmerman...put the gun down
 

devilgoob

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Who says "You need to settle down" when it's obvious why I am pissed.

And I guess I went to far by saying you understand why a man would hit a woman, but then you go on later to explain the dynamics and "that's just how it works."

I seem to disagree with why a person would hit any lady. So there must be a reason you agree to let it happen or why you understand it to be "the way that it is."

See, you have no problem with it. You seem to understand it, maybe not from a 1st person view, but really.....I have REAL qualms about hitting women. Seeing one being beat the fuck up by her husband, my mom being beaten as a child.

I might have a mental disorder though, in stores when people start swearing or getting mad, I also get as mad as them. I may be picking out cereal, but my adrenaline is rushing.

And true, might be the relationship. But one cannot judge how serious the fight is.

"Oh that's how they operate"

Well, guess domestic violence should be between the couple. /sarcasm
 

EclipseFour20

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Slap your mama....guess you guys don't like that expression either.

BTW, The origin of this phrase traces its roots to the southern states of the U.S. When first coined it meant someone had just tasted something so delectible it caused them to be angry towards their mother for never creating food equally as tasty... angry enough to slap her.

Now...lets toke one for our mamas! Whether we want to slap her or not....lol.
 
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SooperSmurph

Some people need to be smacked and told they're scum, they need to have their petty shit exposed for all to see so that their shame can motivate change, if no one says or does anything, they get to go on disrupting others with no consequences.

Let idiots know they're disrupting traffic, honk and flip them off, don't just sit there fuming like a gelding.

Take weed away from teenagers.

People who do stupid things are holding back our species, once upon a time there would have been traditions in place that dictated when and where we should throw these people into the ocean with large rocks attached, but nowadays we're taught to think everyone is special and unique. Reality is that half or more of the population is just slow, with no real purpose other than sloth and spite, using their weight to make sure humanity can't lift itself higher.
 

Jericho Mile

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Who says "You need to settle down" when it's obvious why I am pissed.

And I guess I went to far by saying you understand why a man would hit a woman, but then you go on later to explain the dynamics and "that's just how it works."

I seem to disagree with why a person would hit any lady. So there must be a reason you agree to let it happen or why you understand it to be "the way that it is."

See, you have no problem with it. You seem to understand it, maybe not from a 1st person view, but really.....I have REAL qualms about hitting women. Seeing one being beat the fuck up by her husband, my mom being beaten as a child.


I might have a mental disorder though, in stores when people start swearing or getting mad, I also get as mad as them. I may be picking out cereal, but my adrenaline is rushing.

And true, might be the relationship. But one cannot judge how serious the fight is.

"Oh that's how they operate"

Well, guess domestic violence should be between the couple. /sarcasm

I said...you need to settle down. Admitting that you are pissed...is admitting to your unbalance....and damn...if you can get so upset on a computer...real world must be tough on you.

I'm not angry...don't get angry over shit...that I don't understand...or is beyond...my control. It's not my concern....nor my worry...as anger and worry..buy absolutely nothing but...illnesses. The world be ill enough.

As I said...don't mind your own business...carry on...see if you solve anything...or find happiness. Do it for your principles...and expect everyone else to abide by them...or no...you will step in..and make judgement

You have a big mouth...foul language...what else?...O a mental disorder. Great...maybe we need worry about you slapping up on your past (and not even yours...but your moms)...as it haunts you..if you have to mention it. At least you know why...you are only 1/2 honest playing the savior.

In this scenario...the dude pushed a girl (the white rapper...o the disgust...pushed his girlfriend)...OP jumped off his stool and went flying into a fray...unrequested by any party...just went charging in. Did he stop a serious assault?....did he make anything better? I mean...what got solved? Upset his night is all...the whole truth..never to be known
 

Eighths-n-Aces

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People who do stupid things are holding back our species, once upon a time there would have been traditions in place that dictated when and where we should throw these people into the ocean with large rocks attached, but nowadays we're taught to think everyone is special and unique.

:laughing: It's sad but true

calling a stupid person stupid or a fat person fat can get you labeled as a bully these days. all the political correctness in the world does nothing to take the bottom feeders and mouth breathers out of the gene pool. we need to dredge the harbor really bad! it's getting hard to swim through the stumps
 

1TWISTEDTRUCKER

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Devildoob, I think we are a lot alike.
I Battle rage over the same kind of crapp as You Bro.
The things Jericho is expressing are ringing so TRUE to Me,
Things My wife of 26 yrs tells Me ALL the time, My Best Friend
tells me the same stuff too, and like I said the 2 Relationship
related incedents confirmed these things, and still its hard to turn
a blind eye.
I don't know how to help You deal w/The abuse you watched your Mother
endure, and I know you prolly wonder WHY She stayed, prolly have anger w/Her
For staying,,,so on and so on,,,,
Dude,, do you think it does Her any good Knowing Her Son is So twisted about Her
Issues.
I got No answers, just a few Q's that MIGHT do some good to ponder.
All this is said in the truest spirit of Compassion.
I do Feel Your Pain Bro. I too am trying to find a balance between Aphathy, and RAGE.

PEACE;1TT
 

tehmaster

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Although in your mind every man who hits a woman is a "pussy scum".There's a chance hes not a pussy and would've beaten you to shit while your "friends" watched.
 

1TWISTEDTRUCKER

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Although in your mind every man who hits a woman is a "pussy scum".There's a chance hes not a pussy and would've beaten you to shit while your "friends" watched.

Im not clear who this is directed at, did I miss sumtin, I think I know who,, but Damm that's harsh.

PEACE;1TT
 

lost in a sea

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Not eye for an eye...rather it is standing up to oppressors and bullies! If no one stood up, then wouldn't we all laying on the ground, belly button down...with our butt cheeks up...awaiting penetration?

Cheers!

it's a grey area..

i have always been a black sheep, though i had to be told it a few times for it to sink in, and as such felt it easy to stand up against "bullys" because of no peer pressure or pathetic modern egocentric conformity for whatever reason..

however i don't think you can solve differences of opinion through force and i don't think you can correct people through force.

at the end of the day the women in these sorts of situations are usually stuck in a position where you turning up and beating their lousy, probably drunken, husbands isn't going to sort them out they will just probably get beaten twice as hard indoors from then on, not that i'm saying you did the wrong thing just that:

"two wrongs don't make a right"

(but it damn sure makes you even, if it's you being wronged)

imo if someone cannot stand up for themselves, then unless you intend to hold their hands for them forever, fighting their fights from then on then you aren't go to help them by getting involved in violent way..

though to be clear i don't judge anyone who does what they feel in their heart to be the right thing.. saving someones life and getting involved in someones abusive relationship are different things..

all just my opinion.. :ying:

:smoke out:
 
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devilgoob

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Again...this thread just proves it.

Jericho - Your arguments are for shit. I have a big mouth? Really kid? Posting on my wall, PM'img and posting.

Secondly, oh wow. I state I have a mental disorder, because apparently to you mammals don't get mad. Get it? I was saying it sarcastically in contrast to your ass that doesn't give two shits about anyone.

Thirdly, you bring in mommy nightmares? Wow. It has everything to do with this subject and nothing to do with any trauma relating to me.

You just repeated the same exact shit in response to me.

Who are you trying to convince? Yourself.

People getting mad - a normal human reaction is unbalanced?

Wow, so when someone is boot stomping my mom, the anger makes me unbalanced?

You are the one whom is unbalanced.

Teach me your humble ways of watching people get beat and just "remaining balanced" and it will all work out.

I think I will float around and tell people when they are rightfully upset that they're just unbalanced.

Face it guy, making me seem unbalanced, takes away nothing from my argument and makes you a character assasin, that's all.
 

tehmaster

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Im not clear who this is directed at, did I miss sumtin, I think I know who,, but Damm that's harsh.

PEACE;1TT
Indirect comment to all that it applies to
Your perception of the guy being a pussy because he hits a woman, is false. You believe it at that moment because YOU believe it , that he is a pussy, but in reality it may not be true.
Thus putting you in a dangerous situation.

She could have just whispered that she "aborted our child while greg from next door was dressed like Donald Duck"
You literally don't even know ! :laughing:

You didn't want to intervene to save someone, you wanted to intervene because you were angry. That's a problem. < Think about this very hard.
 
Indirect comment to all that it applies to
Your perception of the guy being a pussy because he hits a woman, is false. You believe it at that moment because YOU believe it , that he is a pussy, but in reality it may not be true.
Thus putting you in a dangerous situation.

She could have just whispered that she "aborted our child while greg from next door was dressed like Donald Duck"
You literally don't even know ! :laughing:

You didn't want to intervene to save someone, you wanted to intervene because you were angry. That's a problem. < Think about this very hard.

A bloke who hits a woman is a pussy...dog or what ever ya wana call em......doesnt mean they cant fight tho..

Hence....Mike Tyson is a woman beating, raping, dog, pussy, asshole......but the man could knock me to the ground...

Just cause u can KO ppl dont make u a man
 

Jericho Mile

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Again...this thread just proves it.

Jericho - Your arguments are for shit. I have a big mouth? Really kid? Posting on my wall, PM'img and posting.

Secondly, oh wow. I state I have a mental disorder, because apparently to you mammals don't get mad. Get it? I was saying it sarcastically in contrast to your ass that doesn't give two shits about anyone.

Thirdly, you bring in mommy nightmares? Wow. It has everything to do with this subject and nothing to do with any trauma relating to me.

You just repeated the same exact shit in response to me.

Who are you trying to convince? Yourself.

People getting mad - a normal human reaction is unbalanced?

Wow, so when someone is boot stomping my mom, the anger makes me unbalanced?

You are the one whom is unbalanced.

Teach me your humble ways of watching people get beat and just "remaining balanced" and it will all work out.

I think I will float around and tell people when they are rightfully upset that they're just unbalanced.

Face it guy, making me seem unbalanced, takes away nothing from my argument and makes you a character assasin, that's all.

don't recall PMing you...because I didn't...the wall post was in response to the comment you made in Neg Rep....not stalking you bro...as if you look back...you started talking at me 1st.

Kid I am not....but peace anyway dude. This is going nowhere. Good luck....you are unteachable..only you...are arguing
 
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trem0lo

It may have been smarter to keep an eye out and call the cops if things escalated. Chances are if she's pregnant and having this lousy guy's kid (or got knocked up by some other lousy guy) getting shoved around a bit is not the worst thing she's got going on.
 

EclipseFour20

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Whoooa everyone, this "mental exercise" we are all participating...is about choices that deal with "shades of grey"; not "black/white" issues. Hypothesizing what we might do in a given situation it is much easier to say "this is right--and this is wrong" (black/white). But aren't most things in real life really "shades of grey"...that number in the millions of "shades"?

For a given scenario--isn't it good that we have a group of ball busters willing to stand up for the oppressed (brute)...as well as a more thoughtful group willing to negotiate for the oppressed (brawn). Or should we call them "killers" and "hand wringers"?

Think about it--without both camps (killers and hand wringers)...this fucking earth would probably go topsy turvy and spin off its axis for "not being in balance".

Is a person "wrong" because they believe in a different "life philosophy"? Some of us own guns...others have never touched one. I say so what! Not everyone should be the same...besides, if we all wore cowboy hats, listened to country western, drove pickup trucks, wouldn't life be grand? Everyone would be the same....right? Pitui I say! Give me jazz, classic rock, R&B, and a whole lot of old time blues...I will take the hat and yes I own a pickup truck.

IMHO, it is easier/better to respect opposing opinions and debate my buddies on the facts. Don't we all love those "bible thumping evangelist" that come knocking on my door on a given Saturday--with the explicit purpose to convert all "sinners" (those with opposing views)? I certainly avoid these idiots like a bad fart!

Cheers!
 

PhenoMenal

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while i agree about not getting involved in other peoples business, sometimes you just have to intervene as a friend or a good citizen or simply because you're human and have a conscience and a sense of right and wrong ... i think they key is to just immediately make it clear to both warring parties that you're not taking either of their sides, you just want to help to make sure it doesnt get violent, or stops existing violence. Even if they just tell you to go away your presence alone mightve been all it takes to break up their fight
 
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