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its a sad day... 57 plants hermed, week 5 flower

LiLWaynE

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its an embarassment to admit, but something as stupid as not setting a timer correctly has caused my entire crop of LUI, and thai haze x skunk #1 to herm.

57 plants. all with pretty decent sized colas, have become infested with seeds. I was planning on chopping all of them by april 1st, and now i dont know what to do.

should i continue to let the seeds grow within the buds?

should i chop now?

should i get my timer back onto the RIGHT MOTHER FUCKIN time?

someone please answer.

WOW who the fuck would ever fuck something so easy up. I am such an asshole for not even checking the on, off times. I knew it went off at 2:25am. never fucking knew it went on at 2:00pm. I figured that the timers were fine. I have grown many times and have never fucked up a timer. i was losing about 35 minutes of dark time a night, for i'd say about 2 weeks since i last fucked with the timers.

this HAS to be why they hermed. plants NEED 12 hours of light from what i have gathered. this is un-real my homies. I dont know what I should do..

fucking tragedy....

someone please convince me otherwise...

and yes, i know it was a dumb fucking move, or lack there of.
 

ShootinBudz

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It happens, the important thing once you have a timer issue is to ensure that the plants get 12 hours of dark before picking back up. From there, decide if you want to immediately give them 12 of dark, then start up on the 12/12 or if you want to give them 12-24 hours of dark to get them back around to the same time they usually come on.

Digital timers are safer in that they remember what time it is in case your power goes off. Analog timers stop moving when the power goes off and this wreaks havoc on cycles especially with aircooled ights.

Keep them going you can make a bunch of hash.
 
Depends what your doin with the herb. If you plan on selling it, looks like the price just got knocked down, if it's for you then it's your personal choice if you feel like pickin the beans. But I'll tell you one thing I didn't bleed, sweat, and labor for absolutely no reason, but that's me. Really sorry to hear about that it was looking good too, I was lurking your thread. There is something you can give it to try and stop and reverse the herm but I'm stoned and can't for the life of me recall what its called. Someone will chime in about it sooner or later. Again sorry shitty deal. Live and learn right(what I always say).​
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I am surprised, that 35 minutes fucked things up so much. Those of us with the W40 water heater timers have to be off a bit one way or another.

I would keep growing them. My seeded plants had great reviews and everyone loved them. So I am sure yours will provide good smoke too. Just clean the area up afterwards. You wont believe this but I had 3 seedlings pop up in one of my unused tables. Guess some of the seeded plants dropped some seeds and they sprouted. Crazy

Sorry to hera the bad news
 
Hey weezy terribly sorry to hear about the tragedy for your grow as it was a thing of beauty. Like shutter said it depends on what youre planning on doing with it, but I'd personally keep them around. Ive had this happen to me on my last grow, and while it sucks big time, I still got high off the buds. Keep any mothers to cut clones from?
 

kbc2007

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damn, sucks.
I didn't realize that 35 minutes was that big of a deal.

What about the people who use the plug timers (non-digital).
That's what I'm using now in veg.
For 12/12 I was just going to eyeball it, I'm sure it will not be exactly 12/12...is this that big of a deal?
 

LiLWaynE

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im not too educated on hermaphrodidic plants.

the beans are not totally covered in the buds...there are a couple forming here and there, mainly at the top of the colas.

im going to try and get some pictures up here once i get some batteries for my cam..
maybe someone can give me some options based on what they can see...

in fact, im going to run and buy some now... ill be back with some pics...
 

LiLWaynE

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if u look at this bud, you can see some yellowish shoots coming up. I am not sure if those are seedpods forming, or just extreme growth. Recently i switched to monkey juice bloom 2 part feeding, along with some b-52 (b vitamins) and i dont know whats happening. I have always followed the rules in previous grows and have never really had hermie plants.


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if you look really closely in the above picture, you can see some seeds forming in the bud. how they got there remains a mystery, other then the suspected light issues.

i have a question though? is it possible for whatever caused these beans to form to spread more voraciously throughout the garden, or is the seed formed from within the plant without pollen?

i dont understand... i dont like the idea of reading up on hermaphrodite plants, but i guess one day, all true growers must face it, for the good or the bad.





anyone have any advice????
 
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barletta

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I think that there may have been another cause for the hermies. A lot of folks go 11/13 on/off for flower with no problems. I have heard of some folks going 10/14 in order to speed up flowering. They claim a loss in yield for faster flower times. Did you lose 35 minutes per day, or were they just 12:35on/11:25off for a while? I checked my timers the other day, and I was 12:30 on/11:30 off with no problems. I cut back 15 min per 2 days till I was (am) @ 12/12. The plants didn't show any problems, even the hazes were flowering. I had a single plant hermie on me in a prior grow, but I think that it was due to a light leak or Spider mites. Sorry to hear that happened to ya.
 

Pops

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LilWayne, if the plants are forming seeds,then you have to have male sacs somewhere. There are no virgin births in MJ. Check the plants closely for male sacs and pick them off. If there is pollen already spreading around the room, you might want to mist all your plants to kill any remaining pollen. A few seeds won't kill your harvest. If the seeds are forming on the outermost section of the bud, then it is a recent pollination. Ordinarily, an early pollination will cause seeds to form deep in the buds. Seeds on the outermost part shows a late pollination, and the seeds may not be viable. It usually takes 4-5 weeks minimum for seeds to be viable.
 

Colt122

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Im going threw the same thing...... :spank:
a timer I was using(digital indoor outdoor Noma)the battery tang broke so the plants on 12 got 24h, so I shut them down for 12, back on cycle, Ive had breaker problems as well, old shitty house, :rasta:
Not living in the grow house can take its toll as well.
I wouldnt sweat it you havesome fine bud, I seed many crops and sell the bud, it can be a blow to your ego btthe fact that your here asking for ideas shows your over it........
I wouldnt lengthen the daylight hours at all, shorten if need be but things look fine, theres some great help here :rasta:
Peace bro
 
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Yea that sounds weird. Sorry to hear about your crop but just because you lost 35 minutes doesn't mean that's the reason why they hermed.

Try checking around for males flower in the innernodes. I bet that's a possibility. I dont think any strain is very sensitive to 35 minutes of dark time. I mean take natural light for example, outdoor strains dont get exactly 12 hours or light or dark.

There's another reason why they hermed.

Once again, sorry to hear about yoru crop.
 

LiLWaynE

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Pops said:
LilWayne, if the plants are forming seeds,then you have to have male sacs somewhere. There are no virgin births in MJ. Check the plants closely for male sacs and pick them off. If there is pollen already spreading around the room, you might want to mist all your plants to kill any remaining pollen. A few seeds won't kill your harvest. If the seeds are forming on the outermost section of the bud, then it is a recent pollination. Ordinarily, an early pollination will cause seeds to form deep in the buds. Seeds on the outermost part shows a late pollination, and the seeds may not be viable. It usually takes 4-5 weeks minimum for seeds to be viable.

what do you suggest spraying them with pops
 

Haps

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Water will kill pollen LW, and Pops is dead on, the timer may have played a part, but you got a naughty plant in there.
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ixnay007

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Haps said:
Water will kill pollen LW, and Pops is dead on, the timer may have played a part, but you got a naughty plant in there.
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Water shouldn't kill pollen, but it will make it stick to whatever(plant, floor) and won't let it float around anymore....
 

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ixnay007 said:
Water shouldn't kill pollen, but it will make it stick to whatever(plant, floor) and won't let it float around anymore....
water kills pollen i found this out the hard way was gifted strawberry desiel pollen, i pollenated then sprayed the plants with water. pollenation didnt take :bashhead: but yes theres a nanner or lots somewhere in the garden, thier not hard to spot you'll know them. i have i believe 2 nute sensitive plants i check every watern which is every other day, tis a PIA but once you've cut all nanners and stay ontop of any new 1's you can finish them out. but afterwards i would wash the whole growroom down walls with diluted bleach wash and dust everything if theres carpet steam clean it, this is to prevent any future possible contamination.
 
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LiLWaynE

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so, what your saying is that i need to spray them all down with water?

what about mold? should i spray with water, then shoot a fan on them?

i noticed some nanners a while back and never fucked with them, kinda wanted to see what would happen... so what i am understanding is that the nanners contain the pollen?

wow. looks like im going nanna hunting when i wake up tmrw.

any proper handling requirements? while removing the nanners?










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LiLWaynE

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i just read a post by stitch, where she says:

MynameStitch said:
NOrmaly when they grow that late into flowering they are nanners that do not open up, but sometimes grow a seed in them or when they do open up they affect a small area with a few seeds, more than likely they are not going to burst open if they are 6 weeks into flowering.
 
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