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Is this nute burn or MITES?!
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ok i could have caused bad ph by over-ferting right? i use distilled water only so it cant have been the ph of the pure water, it must have been the over-dose of ferts i gave them by mistake...
how many waterings should i wait before using ferts again? like a week worth? 2 weeks?
how many waterings should i wait before using ferts again? like a week worth? 2 weeks?
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suckerrepellent
what is the ph of your water? although it might be pure, it could be right at seven if its intended for people to drink, in which case it would be higher than optimum. if it were mites you would see tiny white spots on the leaves, as well as mites themselves on the under sides of the leaves where the white spots occur. also, it might not be the ph of the water, you should check the ph of your runoff if your using soil. you might need to make a dolomite ammendment in the future. also, does it seem to occur in any spots in specific (tops only, extremities only, fan leaves only).
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yeah i think the PH of the distilled water is 7- its steam distilled... would spring water be better? I dont have a ph test kit and im color bind so reading the cheap test strips is difficult to impossible for me and i really dont want to invest in an expensive digital tester....
The damage appears only at the fanleafs on the tops mainly, it doesnt even happen on all the tops, just like 2 of the 8-10 tops on the plant have the damage.... undamaged tops look nice and healthy...
Im using FFOF soil, last grow i used this same distilled water and had no issues like this so i dont think the un-ferted water is the cause; on a few watering i gave them 3tsp of big bloom per gal like twice in one week which is WAYYYY heavy i learned [dumb i know] but could that do it? the correct feeding is 1tsp every other watering
thanks!
The damage appears only at the fanleafs on the tops mainly, it doesnt even happen on all the tops, just like 2 of the 8-10 tops on the plant have the damage.... undamaged tops look nice and healthy...
Im using FFOF soil, last grow i used this same distilled water and had no issues like this so i dont think the un-ferted water is the cause; on a few watering i gave them 3tsp of big bloom per gal like twice in one week which is WAYYYY heavy i learned [dumb i know] but could that do it? the correct feeding is 1tsp every other watering
thanks!
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Grower I have yet to see distilled water at 7 PH,usually its much lower around 5.5-6 when I've checked,add ferts to that without PH up and that could be the problem.Hell my dehumid water is 5.0PH,the few times I've used distilled from the store its always had a low PH.
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suckerrepellent
i think if you are indeed color blind you NEED to get an electronic ph testing sytem. they are not too expensive, youll definately be able to find one for under 200. i have the hanna test equipment that does ph and ppm. i believe it was 130 dollars, which when you consider the difference in the plants at the end when you are able to properly monitor ph and ppm, is a great deal. i guess its not essential, but if you want the best product you possibly can, it kind of is. the amount you put into the grow in terms of dollars for equipment will be returned exponentially at the end when you see the finished product. in addition, its a cost that you won't have to incur next time around.
yeah i cant justify $130 on a ph tester... id be hard pressed to justify $50 for a ph tester- my last grow i used teh exact same water, no ph tester at all, and i yeilded 8z dry off a 250hps light.... 4 plants in 2gal containers...pretty good result imo
im pretty sure the ph got whacked by the ferts, the plants look great except for the few tops that are burned.... ill just keep feeding plain water for the next few feedings-
if the ph is corrected will the burnt leaves recover or will the stay burnt?
im pretty sure the ph got whacked by the ferts, the plants look great except for the few tops that are burned.... ill just keep feeding plain water for the next few feedings-
if the ph is corrected will the burnt leaves recover or will the stay burnt?
I guess you need to weigh out the logics. You can find ph testers of decent quality for $25, but it sounds like you are hell bent on winging it.
What do you think happens to water when you add ferts? Maybe you should buy a ph meter and find out. Same goes with most your other questions at this point.. maybe you should buy a ph meter and find out.
Theres a difference between growing and guessing.
What do you think happens to water when you add ferts? Maybe you should buy a ph meter and find out. Same goes with most your other questions at this point.. maybe you should buy a ph meter and find out.
Theres a difference between growing and guessing.
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Actually, he could learn a lot by using the search function at the top of the page.
There is no winging pH, if it is a problem - it will be a problem till it is fixed
2 plants have the deformities, same strain, out of the 10 seeds 3 other plants were so mangled-ly deformed i just choopped them immediately... dutch passion blueberry known for its poor-inbred-genetics
the plants are growing vigorously [new shoots, new leaves] its just on those few tops the leaves are wacky- the other leaves have no spotting or anything.
and yes i know ph is a big issue. I am a small personal grower i just cant justify getting an electronic ph meter- mother nature doesnt use one, so i dont see why i NEED to use one. Given, it would be useful but its far from mandatory. Why not just switch from soil to DWC and upgrade to a 1kw electronic ballast? those are all nice too but not required either...
the plants are growing vigorously [new shoots, new leaves] its just on those few tops the leaves are wacky- the other leaves have no spotting or anything.
and yes i know ph is a big issue. I am a small personal grower i just cant justify getting an electronic ph meter- mother nature doesnt use one, so i dont see why i NEED to use one. Given, it would be useful but its far from mandatory. Why not just switch from soil to DWC and upgrade to a 1kw electronic ballast? those are all nice too but not required either...
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Guest
DWC and no pH meter - now that's funny!!!
After I quit spending to buy pot, and started spending to improve the garden,, rocky (that's me) has the best buds in the region, and THAT my friend is priceless - and worth multiple times what I "invested"
Your tend to get out of a project, what you put in..............
Half baked imput will require a lot of luck and skill.
After I quit spending to buy pot, and started spending to improve the garden,, rocky (that's me) has the best buds in the region, and THAT my friend is priceless - and worth multiple times what I "invested"
Your tend to get out of a project, what you put in..............
Half baked imput will require a lot of luck and skill.
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No offense but when people tell you that you have a ph prob and you refuse to accept and deal with it you'll probably find the help stops there... best of luck .. lots of luck. Things are manditory when you clearly dont know what their impact is and its pretty clear your knowledge of ph isnt there at all. Also a poor use of logic when a $25 meter will net you well over $25 in weed from salvaged issues like..
btw you do know why mother nature works better at managing ph then the indoor grower does .. dont you?
btw you do know why mother nature works better at managing ph then the indoor grower does .. dont you?
legalizekindtok
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bro i'd check your roots... to see if you have root rot then if your clear there check for ph and fert lock out!!!
