Is it ready to harvest? Short Stuff #1

[DoDad]

I have some short stuff #1 that has been growing for 66 days today.

It's full of small bud and the plants are about 20" tall. This is the first time I have grown so I don't know to chop now or wait longer.

ShortStuff no.1

Available as regular or feminised seeds
RRP £24.99GBP || €29.99 EUR per 10 regular seeds or 5 female seeds
Type : Auto flowering William’s Wonder / Northern Lights No. 2 / Mexican Ruderalis
Height : 10-15” | 25-38cm
Harvest : 8-9 weeks from seed
Yield : 14-36g |0.5-1.25oz per plant
Indoors/Outdoors
Effect : surprisingly strong hit
Potency : 7/10
Breeder: STITCH

 

[JamieShoes]

got a pic?

 

[DoDad]

got a pic?

I do.

 

[JamieShoes]

still seeing a few white pistils, looks like she needs a good flush too.. let the flushing commence

about a week mate.

 

[DoDad]

still seeing a few white pistils, looks like she needs a good flush too.. let the flushing commence

about a week mate.

Very cool. Thanks. I've learned to do nothing really well.

 

[aridbud]

It's not necessarily WHITE pistils that determine whether she's ready, but is an indicator. Many "white strains" do not alter color.

Have grown Short Stuff and in a few of our strains...great smoke!

Get a magnifying glass, jeweler's loupe. If trichomes (the glistening part of leaves/buds, tall mushroom shaped) are milky to amber...that's when they are ready. If they are clear...it's not ready. Too much amber trichs, plant is reached peak and degrading.

Look up trichomes, or Google...shows what you need to watch. Yes, water only for remaining time!

 

[JamieShoes]

ok thats great advice aridbud. all the same, this plant is not ready.

 

[DoDad]

Have grown Short Stuff and in a few of our strains...great smoke!

I have no idea what it will be like. I have smoked Mexican brick weed for decades and I know what that is like. I vape at a very specific temperature and I know what that combo delivers.

What the buzz will be like from this SS #1 at the same temp, will be a total surprise to me.

I didn't grow them right. Made a ton of mistakes and they still grew flowers. My hat goes off to the breeder for such a hardy strain.

 

[DoDad]

Well, it's been another week. I got my 30x loop but don't see any amber trichs. I was hoping to shoot for something like 20% amber.

They are not growing anymore white pistils, so are they just done?

Should I let them grow a bit more just in case they can put on more bud?

 

[DoDad]

I had someone do a smoke report.


Taste: 6/10 didn't taste good or bad he said
Smell 5/10 didn't smell like much, even pot
Buzz: 7/10 just high enough still functional after one bowl
Overall he gave it a 7/10.

 

[aridbud]

Well, it's been another week. I got my 30x loop but don't see any amber trichs. I was hoping to shoot for something like 20% amber.

They are not growing anymore white pistils, so are they just done?

Should I let them grow a bit more just in case they can put on more bud?

They won't 'put on more bud'. They'll continue to mature. Got a recent pic. Sounds like your almost there with the 'smoke report'. Although, a good cure amps it up.

Bet JamieShoes can help you...I'll steer clear.

 

[sprinkl]

I had someone do a smoke report.


Taste: 6/10 didn't taste good or bad he said
Smell 5/10 didn't smell like much, even pot
Buzz: 7/10 just high enough still functional after one bowl
Overall he gave it a 7/10.

Is that from a fresh sample? How did you dry it?
If it is, the score should get a good bit higher after a decent dry/cure.

What did you feed your plant? Pistils tell me it could be done, I don't really look at trichomes anymore. As I noticed I usually had plenty of amber on the sugar leaves but few or none on the buds, and guessing %'s is as subjective as anything. But I'm sure few follow that opinion. I go by smell, colour of hairs/amount of new ones it's spitting out after watering, and decoloration of the leaves - and outdoor mold is a big factor as well.
I wouldn't harvest a plant if it's been nute burned(rusty tips on leaves) until it's yellowing some of it's fan leaves, doesn't have to be much, as fertilizer taste is the final thing that can ruin your crop. Yellowing, even slightly, is a sign the plant is starting to take nitrogen from the leaves so it's no longer overfed.

 

[DoDad]

Is that from a fresh sample? How did you dry it?
If it is, the score should get a good bit higher after a decent dry/cure.

What did you feed your plant? Pistils tell me it could be done, I don't really look at trichomes anymore. As I noticed I usually had plenty of amber on the sugar leaves but few or none on the buds, and guessing %'s is as subjective as anything. But I'm sure few follow that opinion. I go by smell, colour of hairs/amount of new ones it's spitting out after watering, and decoloration of the leaves - and outdoor mold is a big factor as well.
I wouldn't harvest a plant if it's been nute burned(rusty tips on leaves) until it's yellowing some of it's fan leaves, doesn't have to be much, as fertilizer taste is the final thing that can ruin your crop. Yellowing, even slightly, is a sign the plant is starting to take nitrogen from the leaves so it's no longer overfed.

It doesn't look any different now that it did a week ago other than it's not shooting out white pistels anymore. All the leaves look just like they did in those pics I posted.

Drying is going to be problematic where I live. 75% or higher RH 365 days a year. I air dried it for a day, then put it in the crock pot on warm for a few hours. I also have a dehydrator but it only has one setting so I'm not sure that would be good. I'll work that part out. It's not like I have a lot to dry. An ounce or two I think at most.

I grew a pound of leaves and about 2 oz of buds. What's wrong with that picture?

I used Maxibloom, the KISS method.

 

[JamieShoes]

nice passive aggressive dig there ... peace out.

 

[DoDad]

I started a lot of seeds and ended up with 2 plants that grew buds. I killed most of them outright, some I got tired of nursing them along and chopped them.

I got some mad leaves but not very much bud. I just now chopped my last two non budding plants, now all I have are these two overdue plants in my big ole tent and soon these two will get chopped and all my lights will be off.

All that for 2 ounces doesn't seem worth it right now but then I do have nearly a pound of leaves.

I'm getting ready to try again and hopefully I won't kill 10 x more than I grow but if I can't grow more bud next time, I'll likely give this up.

The number one lesson I learned was for me, don't grow bag seed. EVER. I don't have the space, time or patience for them. Cheap things are seldom good. I wasted 3 months on them and never saw a flower.

What I still don't know is if both my remaining plants are the SS#1. I didn't mark them but want to say one is a SS# and the other is an Afghani freebie I got from Herbies. The leaves look very similar but the output seems to be greater. It could be another pheno of SS but in any event, it's about ready to chop as well.

 

[aridbud]

Drying is going to be problematic where I live. 75% or higher RH 365 days a year. I air dried it for a day..........

How about near/above your hot water tank, atop a closet shelf?

Sorry to hear of high humidity issues. And true...bag seed best left for outdoor guerilla or 18 hrs, then 11-12 for changing into bloom mode. Patience with autoflowers, a much better route to go!

You'll improve next grow/harvest techniques after learning about how SS responds. It takes time to watch the nuances of autoflowering traits. Absorb what folks are saying. Bet you'll be successful next round.

@ sprinkl....great answer/info!

@ Jamie- not intended p/a. Figured you could help someone new to this process.

 

[sprinkl]

Well for a first time you could've done way worse, the plants look well fed and don't have any deficiencies or lock-out, even a bit overfed but nothing dramatic, you see experienced chem growers all the time that have worse burned leaf tips.

You make mistakes, learn the lessons, that's how you become a good grower. You could have 5 perfect first grows and you still wouldn't have learned much. Imo.
Bagseeds are a gamble... Did they come from good plants, did they come from feeble plants that turned herma, which is likely, and a big risk to seed your decent weed... Keep them for when you're more experienced, even then, I would advise putting your money on trusted genetics(does not equal the most expensive seeds, beware for hyped stuff and pollenchuckers breeding with weak plants from poor selections)

I'm sure the quality will be fine, and it's better to dry slowly than drying too fast. Try to get it as dry as possible from hanging(with fresh air in a spot with some circulation to prevent mold) and maybe you can do the final part in a food dessicator or by adding some dessicant sacks to your jars.

 

[DoDad]

I made a tons of newbie mistakes. I killed most of them due to the Rockwool starters. Rockwool is the yellow devil around my house. I found a way that works better for me so I don't need to know how to use Rockwool anymore. Dampening off got me BIG time.

Once they got any size to them though, we cruised along fine. I had to come up with a way to water 8 plants everyday or as many as I could keep alive and once I got that system in place, the rest was K.I.S.S.

As we all know, there is more to this than tossing a handful of seeds on a creek bank and hoping something grows. You can read all the books in the world but until you actually go through a 3 month grow end to end to iron out the kinks, it's all just empty words.

I killed more than a few in a DWC. Had a few hermy on me, grew some males for months. Bought a lot of crap I'll never use. Read a lot of crap that didn't apply to me.

But I did pay attention and stayed out of jail, so armed with my experience and my freedom, this next run should be more successful.

My plan did work in that I started way more seeds than I thought I could grow, thinking most if not all would die. If I started enough, a few might make it and that's what ended up happening. I kept enough a live long enough to figure out how to grow them and once I did figure out what way that would work for me, I got some results.

There are so many ways to grow this and not every way works for every body. I don't need to know how to grow but one way that works for me. It took some time to find that way.

I learned about Thrips and how to treat them so I can add that to this experience. I learned how to make a few types of tinctures so those leaves will not go to waste.

It's not the end of the world anyway only growing two small plants out of 10, and there is always my corner pot dealer that I could run to if I run out of what I have grown before my next harvest.

I don't think I'll need him though. I'm not pot poor right now from my own grow, plus I still have some left over from my last visit to the pot salesman. For now, I'm good on weed supply.

 

[DoDad]

Drying is going to be problematic where I live. 75% or higher RH 365 days a year. I air dried it for a day..........

How about near/above your hot water tank, atop a closet shelf?

Sorry to hear of high humidity issues. And true...bag seed best left for outdoor guerilla or 18 hrs, then 11-12 for changing into bloom mode. Patience with autoflowers, a much better route to go!

You'll improve next grow/harvest techniques after learning about how SS responds. It takes time to watch the nuances of autoflowering traits. Absorb what folks are saying. Bet you'll be successful next round.

@ sprinkl....great answer/info!

@ Jamie- not intended p/a. Figured you could help someone new to this process.

I'm not planning on running auto's next time which may be my first mistake of the second grow. If I was smart, I would run them but I want to grow more unique genetics than auto's provide.

I think for a brand new guy, auto flowers, auto watering, auto nutes are the way to go and I'm glad I had the SS#1 this time. Next time though, I want to grow something a bit different and it doesn't come in auto.

 

[aridbud]

I'm not planning on running auto's next time which may be my first mistake of the second grow. If I was smart, I would run them but I want to grow more unique genetics than auto's provide.

I think for a brand new guy, auto flowers, auto watering, auto nutes are the way to go and I'm glad I had the SS#1 this time. Next time though, I want to grow something a bit different and it doesn't come in auto.

Autos do have pros/cons, depending on what you are wanting. They work for many, but not everyone likes them.

You learned by the experience and deciding your next venture.

Good luck with future grows! May they be fruitful!