Lyfespan
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silly panda thats a made up number from an inconclusive study off stanford highwire
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Is dabbing bad for you?
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silly panda thats a made up number from an inconclusive study off stanford highwire
j-fly
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The concentrates now are so much stronger than anything I smoked when I was in my 20''s , and Im 38 now. I have been smoking shatter and wax on a daily basis for the last 6 years at least. I would definitely agree that if a young person with a low tolerance, and previous mental issues, becoming addicted to hash oil could easily trigger a suicidal episode. I wouldnt completely blame it on the cannabis, because you can never really explain an individuals mindset for committing suicide. Of course cannabis, and especially concentrates are very strong and addictive now a days, and can be abused. Moderation is always crucial, and something I fail at. I know that cannabis concentrates have helped my quality of life a lot, but I also know I overindulge at times at there are definitley side effects on my mental and physical health.
This article was really personal and relatable to me, because I struggle sometimes with anxiety and depression and addiction. Ive tried quitting and its hard and i know I am psychologically and physically addicted and dependent on cannabis and have been all my adult life. The key is relationships and family. This kids parents didnt even know what dabs were, so he had a secret life and probably felt very guilty about his habit. Its very sad, my prayers go to his family. Its a hard, crazy world we live in and we should be able to help and love each other and communicate, not judge.
Back to cannabis I beleive the concentrates now a days are stronger than ever, so we dont really know the effects they have on different individuals. Everyone will react differently to substances. I know that cannabis can dramatically enhance moods and emotions that are already present in my mind. So who knows what it does to people who might already prone to depression or mental illness. I guess it cant save everyone. Im done
This article was really personal and relatable to me, because I struggle sometimes with anxiety and depression and addiction. Ive tried quitting and its hard and i know I am psychologically and physically addicted and dependent on cannabis and have been all my adult life. The key is relationships and family. This kids parents didnt even know what dabs were, so he had a secret life and probably felt very guilty about his habit. Its very sad, my prayers go to his family. Its a hard, crazy world we live in and we should be able to help and love each other and communicate, not judge.
Back to cannabis I beleive the concentrates now a days are stronger than ever, so we dont really know the effects they have on different individuals. Everyone will react differently to substances. I know that cannabis can dramatically enhance moods and emotions that are already present in my mind. So who knows what it does to people who might already prone to depression or mental illness. I guess it cant save everyone. Im done
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This reminds of the family who wanted to sue because their son did the same thing on edibles. I once made iso from really good brick weed I mean really good better than most bullshit 20$ grams and I took a huge piece and smoked it in a pipe with a little of the same herb. It gave me an intense high at first but I kept smoking and finished the big bowl I'm not sure how much hash I put but it was a huge at least .5 gram but I started feeling short of breath I was breathing normally but I felt like I wasn't getting enough oxygen. That went on for a few minutes then I started to hear all sound getting louder and I'm trying hard to stay calm reassuring myself that weed won't kill you but holy shit what a horrible feeling. I started feeling confused I thought it was the day before but I rememberd I just smoked my morning toke but I kept feeling it was yesterday afternoon because it looked like it outside the sun tricked me. All this time I feel like shit paranoid out of breath and worried. Then it started Waring off but I still felt uncomfortable. That wasn't my first Iso hash experience but it was a rare extremely strong brick of weed and the most hash I ever smoked at once it really opened up my eyes to what a high dose can do.....give you a panicked attack. I have never felt that before or ever since. It was very uncomfortable I wouldn't wish that on my worse enemy. When I started feeling better about a half hour after I smoked a bit of the same weed and it helped calm me Dow and get me back to normal that was the worst part instead of being super high for three hours it was a half hour panick attack to being almost completely sober what a fucking waste of good hash so I just stopped putting a big ass piece. This was really good stuff I wish I always scored this I wouldn't want to grow shit if I did but most brick is pretty weak and normal
I have depression, been institutionalized for it, have 3 family members that committed suicide. The mental states you can only make assumptions about I know quite intimately.
One plant replaced all my pysch meds and even the mental health professionals I see in an illegal state support my choices.
I seek treatment so I can stop doing anything but living on air and sun like a swami but I am not quite there yet.
Until then pot has proven to be, not just for me but for many other people the safest hard reduction choice mankind has in regards to co morbid behaviors like hard drug abuse.
I can appreciate a less is more mantra, but based on how it effects our physiology the assumed causation people are proposing is not possible. It is not physically addicting it is not toxic, it can be used compulsively, but even then the notion of harm is subjective unless you understand all variables involved.
How many people have you met that where balanced happy and had fully functioning lives turned into crack heads over concentrates throwing the rest out of balance?
There is science behind this one, not just studies but in lack of reports of the very thing you claim is a potential. If pot had any connection with driving people to suicide under any condition it would have been part of the evidence to keep it controlled.
Can someone who never does the drug eat a shit load of weed and trip and do irrational things? Yes
Does that mean it is toxic or addicting at higher concentrations? No
People have to stop projecting their fear of cannabis abuse onto people who use the plant in a different manner.
Nothing wrong with the dude who takes a few grams a day to his head to keep from doing heroin and only the ignorant would judge him, conversely someone with a fully functioning life who decides to quit work to sit home and smoke grams of oil could be considered dysfunctional, but tell me how often do you see this happen?
We came as far as legalization because it is such a perfect alternative to so many other choices that are killing people and now people are trying to demonize how other people use it.
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j-fly
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Im glad cannabis worked for you, and i believe it helps me too. But everyone is different. Obviously the kid in the article, did not react well with concentrates. He even wrote about it in his journal, so im not sure how much more evidence we really need. Obviously he was mentally ill and there is no cure for that, as we know cannabis only masks psychotic symptoms and doesnt cure them. I just think we need more research, especially with bho and distillates. But I dont think the concentrates caused him to commit suicide, but could have easily been a factor. Sad anyway
EmeraldDruid
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I've been dabbing for years and I find that it doesn't cause me to become a zombie or fall in and out of sleep... Maybe these people are simply smoking very poor quality or just way too much at a given time. I've only found I've had a clean but intense high from dabbing, and it really depends on the strain, too. However, that's personal experience and I can't speak for anyone else.
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Dioni
NO! 
Badly made dabs are bad for you.
You are inhaling way less combusted plant matter when using properly made dabs and smoking it at low temperatures and you are getting the desired effects much quicker (1 or 2 dabs vs. a whole joint)
I think most of the ill-effects will come from smoking badly made stuff at too high of temperatures.
I saw a meme once that read something like "you ever notice that since BHO become popular, no one seems to get PM anymore?"
Not everyone can afford lab-tested concentrates from a dispensary, many are still making and buying mold turned gold and other questionable products.
You are inhaling way less combusted plant matter when using properly made dabs and smoking it at low temperatures and you are getting the desired effects much quicker (1 or 2 dabs vs. a whole joint)
I think most of the ill-effects will come from smoking badly made stuff at too high of temperatures.
I saw a meme once that read something like "you ever notice that since BHO become popular, no one seems to get PM anymore?"
Not everyone can afford lab-tested concentrates from a dispensary, many are still making and buying mold turned gold and other questionable products.
