Iraqi court to hang Saddamn within 30 days

[Old Man Time]

Where was the outrage in 1982 when he gassed the kurds? There wasnt any. Not for over 10 years we didnt give a piss.

Thats because he didnt gas the kurds until 1988. The only gassing Saddam did before was on the Iranians. In 1988, immediately after the end of the Iran-Iraq War, using US-built helicopters, Saddam unleashed brutal gas attacks on the Kurds. Approximately 30 villages were gassed with chemical agents that included mustard gas and nerve toxins.

So Rumsfeld could not have acknowledged the gassing of Kurds in Northern Iraq in 84.....it hadnt happened yet my friend.

 

[Mr. Nevermind]

Where was the outrage in 1982 when he gassed the kurds? There wasnt any. Not for over 10 years we didnt give a piss.

Thats because he didnt gas the kurds until 1988. The only gassing Saddam did before was on the Iranians. In 1988, immediately after the end of the Iran-Iraq War, using US-built helicopters, Saddam unleashed brutal gas attacks on the Kurds. Approximately 30 villages were gassed with chemical agents that included mustard gas and nerve toxins.

So Rumsfeld could not have acknowledged the gassing of Kurds in Northern Iraq in 84.....it hadnt happened yet my friend.

Tuesday's decision came 51 days after Hussein was sentenced to death for crimes against humanity for the killings of 148 Shiite men and boys from the town of Dujail after an assassination attempt there in 1982.


So you need to get your facts straight. Saddam is on trial for crimes commited in 1982. So your Kurd crap has nothing to do with the trial. Besides the Kurds were on the border of Iran giving shelter to iranians during war, which in our country is treason and punishable by death. Plus the Kurds tried to kill saddam as well. You dont think he had a right to lash back at those trying to kill him?

The crime Saddam is on trial for happened in 1982. Rumsfeld was there in 83-84 after the crimes. when he sold saddam the crop dusting helicopters to use as weapons against the iranians. So its cool to gass iranians but not kurds? Such hipocracy.

So again get your facts straight. The crime was in 82 which he is sentanced to die for . Rummy was there in 83-84 . Where was the outrage then?





Nevermind

 

[mriko]

right, 1982 was about Iran-Iraq war.

Still, this trial is an ugly joke, definitely. Just check this link about
US Diplomatic and Commercial Relationships with Iraq, 1980 - 2 August 1990
can cry or laugh, or both...

Irie !

 

[mriko]

Seems it's imminent...

 

[Mr. Nevermind]

It will happen bu 6am Iraqi time, which is 10pm EST. was just on the news. we turn him over and a few minutes later he is dead. Kind of odd how we give so many appeals and someone on death row gets years. Saddam just got the verdict and a few days later he is dead?

I think if we can go back 24 years and charge him for crimes against humanity, then we should also charge Bush sr , Reagen and rumsfeld for knowingly selling weapons of mass destruction to someone commiting crimes against humanity. Sice we propped him and and gae him the weapons all throught the 80's and he commited the crime in 1982.




nevermind

 

[mriko]

I think if we can go back 24 years and charge him for crimes against humanity, then we should also charge Bush sr , Reagen and rumsfeld for knowingly selling weapons of mass destruction to someone commiting crimes against humanity.

yup, and they should be trialed in Iraq for sure !
That's just crazy, these presidents have favoured him and his tyranny, provided him with the technology he used for so many of things which are reproached to him, and today the providers judge him for having used the "tools" they send/gave him. And through a farcical trial.

It's definitely not the first time US Gov acts such a way, pretty common. But I think it is the first time that they od this kind of thing, while "everyone" around the world knows it's a farce, that the war is a pretext, that's it's all bullshit. I wonder what kind of impact it's gonna have to be, in Iraq, in USA and on the International scene. Is the world going to go "one step forward" the same way it did after 9/11, one step forward chaos ? I'm not the kind of pessimist guy, but I've a bad, really bad feeling about the consequences of Saddam Hussein execution... I just hope I'm wrong...

Irie !

 

[Guest]

It's not the decision of the Americans it's an all Iraqi house and they tried him under his own laws. I don't think the Americans really know wot to do with him so they just handed him over.

 

[mriko]

It's not the decision of the Americans it's an all Iraqi house and they tried him under his own laws

LOL ! that's a funny one ! Who came to invade and ruin the country ? Who went after Saddam claiming he was linked to 9/11 and a threat to US security ? Definitely it's a decision of American Gov to get rid of him that way. THis farcical iraqi court is only a tool of Bush & Co.
Easy for them to say "we didn't sentenced him to death, it's the iraqi court, so don't blame us !".

fucking bastards...

Irie !

 

[junglistni]

apparantly hes jus been executed

 

[mriko]

right, it's done...
Makes me feel very bad... Is it that this modern 21st century we've all been told and made dream of back in the old one ? Is it what our civlized western society has become, tore down openly any country we want and kill some bad leader in the name of our Democracy ? What the fuck ? it' s not a communist invasion, it's not a nazi invasion, it's a democratic invasion !
Is it what we all bloody citizens have became ? Just able to read, see and comment ? only able to act through a fucking so-called democratic vote that most of the time doesn't change a lot of things... barely able to think further than the confort and safety of our own ass...

I think something very bad happened tonight, some wicked governement has got the leader of a country executed in the name of values which have been cherished bases of the western society. Had the Iraqi uprooted and choped down Saddam Hussein themselves, well, fine. But the way it happened, it's so disgusting...

Good night people, sleep well, the monster is dead !

 

[Mr. Nevermind]

I think something very bad happened tonight, some wicked governement has got the leader of a country executed in the name of values which have been cherished bases of the western society. Had the Iraqi uprooted and choped down Saddam Hussein themselves, well, fine. But the way it happened, it's so disgusting...


Indeed. Did anyone think to ask the Iraqis wether they wan tdemocracy or not? We just think they need it so forced it on them. If they wanted it so bad they would be embracing it. But that didnt happen. The middle east isnt ready nor does it need democracy. It may work ( and i use that term loosely) for us but it took many years and wars for us to figure it out. The Iraqis have had wars to figure it out before we even had a thing called the United stated.

So they had wars to settle who would be in power and we came in and fucked that up. Middle east needs dictators , always has always will. Its not up to us to spread democracy like its christianity.



Nevermind

 

[Guest]

yeah they should just replaced saddam with some new dictator, he was gettin a bit too greedy. alot of iraqis want saddam back just because at least with him there was some sort of law and order even if it was brutal.
It should just be handed to some other counrty in the area. they probably know more than the Americans.

 

[HCSmyth]

Here is my impression of the most of the people on this thread:

“Boo hoo, capital punishment is wrong and brutal. Whine, whine, boo hoo, the USA is the evil empire and at the root of all the world’s problems. Every western government, organization or company bigger than a mom and pop operation is part of some diabolic US conspiracy. Whine, boo hoo. Let’s sit around and smoke some more pot and come up with more conspiracy theories.”

As far as world leaders go, which was what Saddam wanted to and claimed to be, he was so far out there. There is certainly some evidence out there that Bush, Putin, Chirac or any other world leader out there has done some underhanded things. But world leaders seldom do the blazingly obvious crimes like Saddam did for as long as he did:

-Not to many leaders have a big video taped meeting with the political leaders of their country and call out who is to be killed while others beg for their life.

-Not too many world leaders are brutal enough to gas tens of thousands of their own civilians.

-Not too many world leaders have their brother in-laws head literally brought to them on a platter.


But you all just keep complaining about the unfairness of the trial and punishment he received. Keep smoking and dreaming about a utopian world where everyone is fair to everyone else. And please don’t actually do anything to make the world a better place just bitch and moan about how evil the US is and continue to spin those conspiracy theories. I mean if you feel bad enough about the execution why not at least send flowers to his surviving family?