LandscapeEscape
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Respectgreen is the growtech the one with the Xbox joystick looking controller? I have heard good things about that unit as well
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iPonic 600 controller
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LandscapeEscape
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Lol coco knows! Anyways out of work and dabbing the rest of this rainy day away. Led if you need any help lemme know. And like another guy mentioned, download the PDF manual. Its easy to read and very helpful. I've called their customer service and they're always happy to help.
One thing I have found is that you can not run the unit as a thermostat for heat AND cold. At least with a central air unit. Basically to do this you would need 3 low voltage terminals. Hot. Cold. Fan. Im working kn a hack that allows one of the 15 amp wall plugs to trip a low voltage terminal. Link4 is working on something for that too. If I can find out how to do it for less than 50 bucks with stuff from cheapo depot ill let you guys know
One thing I have found is that you can not run the unit as a thermostat for heat AND cold. At least with a central air unit. Basically to do this you would need 3 low voltage terminals. Hot. Cold. Fan. Im working kn a hack that allows one of the 15 amp wall plugs to trip a low voltage terminal. Link4 is working on something for that too. If I can find out how to do it for less than 50 bucks with stuff from cheapo depot ill let you guys know
I mean one from agrowtech* not a agrowtech lol typos on my phone.... I'll post a pic my of it when I am home.t
LandscapeEscape
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i'd love to see it man, also a point to be made is how some of these new controllers that cover more equipment and are remotely controllable are a huge help to anyone who is disabled, whether physically or health related. Set one of the channels to a dripper system running off a small res or even your dehuey condensate and if anything should arise or your unable to tend for a day or two, you can still make sure the train keeps rolling.
qupee
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Well, almost certainly not, no...
But, systems like this usually operate their own website that acts as an intermediary. For example, the iPonic uploads its data to iPonic's site, and then your mobile app also logs into the iPonic site and retrieves your data. Having your data go through them is a bit of a security hole. It would be more secure if you could get the data directly from the iPonic wherever it is located.
The reason consumer devices operate this way is because it requires some networking knowledge to be able to configure it so you could access the data directly from where the iPonic is, as well as the fact that almost all consumer internet service has whats called a dynamic IP address, adding another layer of complication (imagine giving people directions to your house if your address could change at any time).
Realistically, the data going to and from iPonic is not indicative of any illegal activity. Could "big brother" snoop andsee that you have an iPonic device operating, and maybe even see what data your sending exactly? Sure. Do they have the resources to do that? No. Do they care? Almost certainly not. Even a site like this probably gets very little attention overall. On the Internet you are a needle in a haystack. Unless you are plotting terrorism or distributing child porn no one is going to allocate resources (highly skilled resources) snooping on what you are up to. Besides, if they are snooping into you, they have much easier ways to catch you than trying to see if you happen to be using some obscure grow automation software that might not be 100% secure.
If I'm a cop and I want to investigate your computer activities I'm going to do a "sneak-and-peek" otherwise known as breaking and entering and install a keylogger/screen monitoring app on your PC's. That's much more of a risk - that and maybe insecure wireless network setups - than using something like iPonic.
All this is imho. I'm a software developer and have a fair knowledge of computer security, but I am not an expert and I m tryi8ng to explain in it general terms so it may not come across totally accurately.
Now, IP cameras with a remote monitoring feature - much bigger security risk imho. They get setup by default the same way - passing your video through a 3rd party website.
LandscapeEscape
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I would agree with qupee.
samba
Active member
Couldn't you do all this with a Siemens logo for example?
For the cost of less than 200€
And the new models have some kind of internet ability I think.
Couldn't you have it programmed like having 2 fans,
1 would be your fan with speedcontrol at 60%
2 would bypass the speedcontroller and so be at 100%
Just NEVER have them both on at the same time!!!
Maybe use a contaktor, have the iponic or what ever control the "coil" and have one of the
NO contacts wired up to run the fan with the speed controller at 60%, and
NC contacts wired up to run the fan without the speed controller,bypassing it all together and so running it at full blast.
Shit, hope you get what Im trying to say, hangover and generally brain dead to day...
For the cost of less than 200€
And the new models have some kind of internet ability I think.
Couldn't you have it programmed like having 2 fans,
1 would be your fan with speedcontrol at 60%
2 would bypass the speedcontroller and so be at 100%
Just NEVER have them both on at the same time!!!
Maybe use a contaktor, have the iponic or what ever control the "coil" and have one of the
NO contacts wired up to run the fan with the speed controller at 60%, and
NC contacts wired up to run the fan without the speed controller,bypassing it all together and so running it at full blast.
Shit, hope you get what Im trying to say, hangover and generally brain dead to day...
LandscapeEscape
Member
your co2 would have to be run independently. And you wouldn't just buy only the siemens logo, you'd have to buy the thermostats, along with all the outlets and breakers that would work off the relays. i'd bet the siemens logo with all the extra's you'd need to be able to run it like a link4, would end up costing you more. but you definitely would get more flexibility with a siemens type controller. You'd be able to build from the ground up, but you'd have to be willing to do that, or pay someone to do that.
Check out what pureknowledge did with a siemens on his 16k flip flop.
https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=223794&page=10
Check out what pureknowledge did with a siemens on his 16k flip flop.
https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=223794&page=10
samba
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Yes, you would need more than just the logo, you would need the analog add-on to get temps,didnt think of that... But the rest is cheap and as you said, the flexibility is something totally different.
I do find it a bit disappointing that the logo only has 4 outputs/relays. you can stretch them a bit by adding external relays/contactors and using the no/nc, but still...
You can buy a add-on to expand, but...
I do find it a bit disappointing that the logo only has 4 outputs/relays. you can stretch them a bit by adding external relays/contactors and using the no/nc, but still...
You can buy a add-on to expand, but...
LandscapeEscape
Member
Samba I couldn't find a lot of info on the Siemens. Could you link to where you found the analog add on?
cocogroguy
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I would say outside...................its has a LED touchscreen so that alone would make you want it outside any flower chamber......and seeing that a high relative humidity is wanted in a veg chamber I would suggest it be outside that kind of enviroment. Maybe its designed for that but electronics + moisture = no bueno IMHO
ya, kinda what I was thinking......
LandscapeEscape
Member
also keep the unit, the probe, and the probe cable as far away from ballasts or strong current wires as possible.
Thanks, do you recommend hanging the probe right above the plants? Reason I ask is I'll be running 1000W Gavita's and the ballast's are attached to the lights. Gunna be a little touch keeping the probe any kind of distance away from those ballast's?? Any recommendations would be greatly appreciated
samba
Active member
Something I found on a quick search:
http://support.automation.siemens.c...extranet=standard&viewreg=WW&load=treecontent
The cable MUST be electromagnetic shielded, its not that more expensive.
But still, have it as far away as possible
Thanks, do you recommend hanging the probe right above the plants? Reason I ask is I'll be running 1000W Gavita's and the ballast's are attached to the lights. Gunna be a little touch keeping the probe any kind of distance away from those ballast's?? Any recommendations would be greatly appreciated
If you turn on you lights/fan or what ever and the temps or other measured values go crazy you're getting electromagnetic interference and are to close to a ballast/AC wire.
If it actually wasn't protected, you could build your own protection on it...
May I ask, what is you opinion on the 1000W Gavita? are they work the money. Do they really only work with Three-phase electric power
