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Ttystikk

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I'm basically starting over from scratch. I stopped growing for awhile and went to school for HVAC, cuz I'm a gear head like that.

Most of my stuff isn't feminized so I have to do the sexing the cuttings dance... which leads me to a change I made. I've been having trouble with doing cuttings the usual ways, in cloners or under a dome so while I was fiddling with that I also got these plastic shells for air layering. They snap together like LEGO, seriously lol I saw that and I was already hooked!
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Ttystikk

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I've popped like 3 or 4 of these on the lower branches of everything big enough to take them, wait a few weeks and they should have roots, fuss not included! For those with strict plant counts, they don't count as separate plants until you take them off the donor plant.

I forgot to say that yes, you put some kind of moistened soil or coco inside to encourage the roots to grow.

When they show roots, I clip them, label to match to donor plant and then sex one of them. If it's female, I'll run it and see if I like how it works in my setup. Males go straight in the bin; there's enough breeders out there already, I'm sticking with what I know.
 

Ambz

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Greetings, everyone- I'm a recent refugee from another site. They said I can't grow and don't know my shit... let's see what y'all think.

I'm about the gear and the setup and the environment, so that's going to be a big focus here. I'll show my nugs, but if you want pretty pot pictures you may be better off elsewhere.

All those who are interested in higher yields from less watts in smaller spaces, stick around awhile...

I just learned the hard way that I must finish a post and submit it, I can't let it sit in an idle page for awhile or I lose my work! Since I'm new, tips on navigation and using the site are appreciated.
Hi Refugee! Lol. I love your vertical lights!
 

Ttystikk

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Hi Refugee! Lol. I love your vertical lights!
Thanks! Your profile says you're "from the front range" which means we could be neighbors!

Vertical lighting and LED tech is what I'm known for, and I'm about to make it a triple threat. Stay tuned, I'm kicking it up another notch.
 

Ambz

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Thanks! Your profile says you're "from the front range" which means we could be neighbors!

Vertical lighting and LED tech is what I'm known for, and I'm about to make it a triple threat. Stay tuned, I'm kicking it up another notch.

Vertical lighting is cool. I used a phototron for my very first grow and wish I still had it!
 

Ttystikk

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Vertical lighting is cool. I used a phototron for my very first grow and wish I still had it!
I had FOUR of those damned things LMAO

I learned how to grow passable pot using them and believe it or not I was running them in an unconditioned attic in fucking Arkansas, even in the summer, with no AC. Seriously. I used a small fan, duct tape and plastic bags.

What some people will do to grow weed, eh? LMAO
 

Ca++

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39 pages over 10 years, and I just got here.
I may of skipped 37, but nicely done. The big water cooler is nice to work with. Lots of circuits ran off it for different needs. Zoned with taps and controls, it's a lot more use than a single cold air machine.
 

Ttystikk

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39 pages over 10 years, and I just got here.
I may of skipped 37, but nicely done. The big water cooler is nice to work with. Lots of circuits ran off it for different needs. Zoned with taps and controls, it's a lot more use than a single cold air machine.
I used the water chilling system to cool and dehumidify the grow rooms, temperature manage all of the RDWC systems and cool the water cooled LED lights of my own design.

It was a lot of work to set up but it's highly effective and very efficient.

Thanks for looking!
 

Ambz

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I had FOUR of those damned things LMAO

I learned how to grow passable pot using them and believe it or not I was running them in an unconditioned attic in fucking Arkansas, even in the summer, with no AC. Seriously. I used a small fan, duct tape and plastic bags.

What some people will do to grow weed, eh? LMAO
That’s hysterically! Do you know me? I am Dr. amber Trichome.
 

Ttystikk

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The point of this entire exercise is to get more production per square foot of floor space while making it as accessible as possible to work on.

@Ca++ I just read parts of your thread about lighting from the sides and underneath. That's more or less the same thing as I'm doing here. I look forward to your thoughts as this moves forward.
 

Ca++

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I best find the 'watch' button then. Gotta see what you are doing now. LEDs easier heat management, really changes the game. I built a box 1 meter high a bit back, and found it easy enough to maintain a scrog in there. Allowing two grows in a 2m tall tent. I can see why racking grows to the roof have become the norm. Whatever side you put the lights, their distance isn't governed by heat, but spread. Still in a given space, there is probably more wall than horizontal space though. So with training, it should pull ahead. It's the additional veg time/space that starts to erode the verts gains though.

I think the waning interest comes mainly from the build aspect. Everyone can hang a light. Yet hanging one from one end, in a way you can move them to gain access.. it gets a bit technical. In a packed room, there may not be room to pull out a clothes rail covered in lights, or such. Or maybe not pull them out, and retain space to trim. It takes a bit of thought, and isn't the instant gratification people want more and more.

Overall, I like racking cuts to root, and see it as good use of space. Producing plants that can be in flower soon after. Almost without training, and with a short time frame, their is less bug exposure. For seed growers, without any spends, the big plant opinion is favourable though.
It's a hard line to draw, but certainly the number crunching commercial growers, have a large influence on the home grower. People like to emulate those big grows. So a vert with a lot of ingenious solutions, isn't as appealing anymore. Though a good grow show, is a good grow show. I'm always interested in what others are doing, or I wouldn't learn bugger all :)
 

Ttystikk

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I best find the 'watch' button then. Gotta see what you are doing now. LEDs easier heat management, really changes the game. I built a box 1 meter high a bit back, and found it easy enough to maintain a scrog in there. Allowing two grows in a 2m tall tent. I can see why racking grows to the roof have become the norm. Whatever side you put the lights, their distance isn't governed by heat, but spread. Still in a given space, there is probably more wall than horizontal space though. So with training, it should pull ahead. It's the additional veg time/space that starts to erode the verts gains though.

I think the waning interest comes mainly from the build aspect. Everyone can hang a light. Yet hanging one from one end, in a way you can move them to gain access.. it gets a bit technical. In a packed room, there may not be room to pull out a clothes rail covered in lights, or such. Or maybe not pull them out, and retain space to trim. It takes a bit of thought, and isn't the instant gratification people want more and more.

Overall, I like racking cuts to root, and see it as good use of space. Producing plants that can be in flower soon after. Almost without training, and with a short time frame, their is less bug exposure. For seed growers, without any spends, the big plant opinion is favourable though.
It's a hard line to draw, but certainly the number crunching commercial growers, have a large influence on the home grower. People like to emulate those big grows. So a vert with a lot of ingenious solutions, isn't as appealing anymore. Though a good grow show, is a good grow show. I'm always interested in what others are doing, or I wouldn't learn bugger all :)
I think that vertical trellis systems can accommodate a sea of green style fault easily. The advantage is labor because it's so much faster and easier to reach the plants to work on them- and to see small problems before they become big ones.

With a vertical trellis, there's no "inside" of the plant for bugs to hide or wasted space. It's either front side or back side and it's all very well lit, very accessible and produces great product from knee height to the ceiling.

I understand that people like to stack flat trays but that comes with its own issues, like needing aisles for the scissor lift and spending time up high. With the vertical trellis panels, one or two steps up a stool is as far from the ground as is ever needed for plant maintenance and that's a big bonus for OSHA.
 

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Something I'd like to share is that I've been attending business entrepreneurship and startup meetings and people are very interested in the tech I've been developing.

I need to write a business plan and a pitch deck, fucking pronto!
 

Aristoned

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Something I'd like to share is that I've been attending business entrepreneurship and startup meetings and people are very interested in the tech I've been developing.

I need to write a business plan and a pitch deck, fucking pronto!

There is nothing better than independence. It is so frustrating working with people that turn into complete road blocks when they don’t understand but are given the authority to make decisions. Being industrious is invigorating, being able to sit back and appreciate all of the effort.
The point of this entire exercise is to get more production per square foot of floor space while making it as accessible as possible to work on.

@Ca++ I just read parts of your thread about lighting from the sides and underneath. That's more or less the same thing as I'm doing here. I look forward to your thoughts as this moves forward.

That’s where my original idea came from when we’re talking back when. I had a design that would multiply the floor space four fold, then I recently had another idea doing the inverse of my original idea.

The past years have me looking at this work upside down inside out, from afar and close up.

Cheers!
 

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Ttystikk

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There is nothing better than independence. It is so frustrating working with people that turn into complete road blocks when they don’t understand but are given the authority to make decisions. Being industrious is invigorating, being able to sit back and appreciate all of the effort.


That’s where my original idea came from when we’re talking back when. I had a design that would multiply the floor space four fold, then I recently had another idea doing the inverse of my original idea.

The past years have me looking at this work upside down inside out, from afar and close up.

Cheers!
That's a really cool spirograph style drawing; what are you depicting here? Is that the light in the middle with the plants in the corners?
 

Aristoned

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That's a really cool spirograph style drawing; what are you depicting here? Is that the light in the middle with the plants in the corners?

Yep.

Inverting my original design simplified the process for cannabis.

The original design was for food. I wanted to provide a cost-effective solution to urban gardening. Everyone would have 4 sq. M of space plus an additional 1 sq. M for things like potatoes or squash.

The past fifteen years have changed my perception on existence.

“By all means, marry. If you find a good wife, you will be happy. If not, you will become a philosopher.”

- Socrates died 399 by way of Democratic vote.
 

Ttystikk

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Yep.

Inverting my original design simplified the process for cannabis.

The original design was for food. I wanted to provide a cost-effective solution to urban gardening. Everyone would have 4 sq. M of space plus an additional 1 sq. M for things like potatoes or squash.

The past fifteen years have changed my perception on existence.

“By all means, marry. If you find a good wife, you will be happy. If not, you will become a philosopher.”

- Socrates died 399 by way of Democratic vote.
Socrates died by eating hemlock. It was organically grown, LOL

Making people grow their own food is a problem because specialization is one of the things that makes an advanced civilization work so much better than an agrarian society.
 

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