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[DrBudGreengenes]

Update Day 21......

Update Day 21......

Here we are at day 21 of 12/12.....still No Smoke or Mirrors to be seen....Hmmm
But they gotta be around here somewhere?
How can they still be alive @ a Density of 16 per sq ft?

 

[wisco61]

One of our Brothers "Icky" was sentenced this week in NJ....6 years STATE TIME.
He was Followed Home from a GROW STORE in PA.
HE only had 31 plants.
How serious do you wanna be?

That is one problem with this method, numbers. In a non medical or strict state keeping it under 5 plants can be a concern. A mother and 1 or 2 plants in flower is a lot less jail time than a mother and 30 plantlets. Its stupid that the law is based on number of plants and not canopy or something, but it is what it is.

 

[DrBudGreengenes]

That is one problem with this method, numbers. In a non medical or strict state keeping it under 5 plants can be a concern. A mother and 1 or 2 plants in flower is a lot less jail time than a mother and 30 plantlets. Its stupid that the law is based on number of plants and not canopy or something, but it is what it is.

He was not using this "Method"......I only used him as an Example of what can happen if you EVER go to a "Grow Store"....EVEN one TIME!!! .....even in another state.

They followed Him Home from the store....and walked right up to the door....and were allowed inside (Not by him) Trust NO ONE, Tell NO ONE IRL, a G/F or B/F or Roommate is NOT a life partner(And should NEVER be TRUSTED with your FREEDOM), only a Husband/Wife Should EVER know that you grow....if you are "Growing to Be Cool" you are doing it for the WRONG reasons...and things will happen accordingly.
If you are growing for the RIGHT reasons Meds,luv for the Plant, Or Just to remove yourself from the Black Market....then your reward is your flowers....and you will not feel the need to show ANYONE ...IRL

The Enemy is out there....Familiarize yourself with your Enemy and Improvise,Adapt and Overcome.
***STOP...."Planning" for the day you are BUSTED....even one day "Inside" is 1 day to many.....TELL NO-ONE....IRL***
They called this a WAR....so until I receive further orders.....I will continue to treat it as one.

 

[DrBudGreengenes]

You said:


They are grown 12/12 from the time they are rooted in the Bottles.

12/12 from clone is Only my CHESAW....others need a lil' taller start height

So, you root the clones in the They are grown 12/12 from the time they are rooted in the Bottles.perlite, and then you transplant into the soda bottles. How long do they veg while they are in the soda bottles?

They are rooted in a Bed of Perlite,Placed in their "Bottles" and sit under 24 hour light until they hit the "Sweet Spot" for the particular strain/Pheno.
They "Veg" until they hit a recorded start point....not a given amount of time ...but a size of plantlet

Are Indicas well suited to this method, as it seems to me that a sitiva dominant Indica/Sativa hybrid would be best suited to the short veg periods?

Any MJ can be grown like this if you but in the Time required to find the "Sweet Spot" for that strain/Pheno

Approximately how much does each of the sockets cost?

3-4 bucks

Are these bulbs best used horizontally?

Yes

Is the loss in yields from 16 per square foot to 9 per square foot significant?

Yield was the same..so why not Pack them in there...and up the GPW

Do different varieties do better at different planting densities?

phrank

PS I was going to go with T5s, but you have convinced me that the CFLs are the way to go.

Not that I have seen.....CFL's are Cheap EZ and available anywhere

 

[CaptainStoner]

looking good dr.. wish i could do more than one damn square foot

 

[arne564]

props to the doc once again for making this thread. what's with haters? we're all stoners, c'mon now.

sorry to hear about your friend. 6 years, fuuuuck.

 

[phrank]

hey now...

hey now...

Doc-

Thanks for getting back to me with answers to my questions. Just to let you know, in my distant past, I was growing for all the wrong reasons. That's how I found myself mixed up in 50K grows with very dangerous people. And you know what? I hated it!!! Between the rip-offs and threatening situations, I grew to hate cultivation, and decided to give it up. I want to thank you and Lifeless for showing me a better and safer way. Yeah, your numbers are high, but kept on a scale small enough for personal use, the numbers are not that bad. I will probably emmulate your 2 square feet grow,

Thanks again,

phrank

PS - When you get it worked out, can you provide the amounts of each ingredient in your organic fert mix..?

 

[cocageo]

drbud would throwing in a few daylight/full spectrum bulbs (for flowering) be of any benefit

 

[MarquisBlack]

drbud would throwing in a few daylight/full spectrum bulbs (for flowering) be of any benefit

I'm curious as to how he answers this. You probably don't want my two cents, but here it is. Dr. Bud seems to rely on his stretch to maximize his cabinet. Daylight is going to shorten the stretch, so if you count on stretch to fill your space, then no, it's probably not a good idea. But if your strain is too stretchy, then yes.

 

[en-lighten-ment]

How often do you water in a container that size? Do you use your submersion method every time you water?

 

[DrBudGreengenes]

Doc-
PS - When you get it worked out, can you provide the amounts of each ingredient in your organic fert mix..?

I will be glad to once I know that it works.....I will pass on NO info until I have tested it myself.....Cuz I don't wanna steer anyone down the wrong path

 

[DrBudGreengenes]

drbud would throwing in a few daylight/full spectrum bulbs (for flowering) be of any benefit

Makes no difference at all to a Veging or Flowering plant with CFL's
W/CFL's spectrum is for our eyes.....your plants ONLY see the PAR

If there is a CFL's bulb.....I've prolly tried it
(my favorite is the Lights of America Flat 27 watt bulb....it's just Expensive and a PITA to mount)

The only time I have seen a difference with different CFL's spectrum is during Rooting....Daylight/Full spectrum bulbs ....showed an increase in root mass of the clones.
They seemed more interested in building root mass than tryin to push the cover off the clone box.

 

[DrBudGreengenes]

I'm curious as to how he answers this. You probably don't want my two cents, but here it is. Dr. Bud seems to rely on his stretch to maximize his cabinet. Daylight is going to shorten the stretch, so if you count on stretch to fill your space, then no, it's probably not a good idea. But if your strain is too stretchy, then yes.

Bro.....you are more than welcome in here, as is anyone who wants to discuss things in a civilized manner in reguards to CFL growing.

You guys need to remember I am new to CFL's (only 4 years)
Not new to indoor Cultivation....for 18 years I was a Dyed in the wool HID man...running SOG in soil (under 1k's) and SOG/Ebb and Flow tables w/Wool Cubes Under 430's

 

[cocageo]

sorry if this is a dumb question...
so PAR is not related to color temp of bulb??

 

[DrBudGreengenes]

How often do you water in a container that size? Do you use your submersion method every time you water?

Using Schultz/FE/SuperThrive Combo....I had to water every other day.

Now Using the New "Organic Tea"..... I only need to water every 4th day

Yes I submerge them everytime.....it is the only way to utilize the entire small container.
this is done by flooding the tray.....letting it sit flooded for 15-30 minutes than it is pumped back out w/a small sum.pump
alot easier than dunking 200+ plantlets 6 at a time......lol

 

[jimbob420]

how do you stop the bastards from floating up when you fill it?

 

[blackone]

Makes no difference at all to a Veging or Flowering plant with CFL's
W/CFL's spectrum is for our eyes.....your plants ONLY see the PAR

If there is a CFL's bulb.....I've prolly tried it
(my favorite is the Lights of America Flat 27 watt bulb....it's just Expensive and a PITA to mount)

The only time I have seen a difference with different CFL's spectrum is during Rooting....Daylight/Full spectrum bulbs ....showed an increase in root mass of the clones.
They seemed more interested in building root mass than tryin to push the cover off the clone box.

You don't see any excessive stretching when growing seedlings under warmwhites? First time I grew under CFL lights 5 years ago I was using warmwhites and didn't have much stretch in the little ones.
Since then I've experienced pretty bad stretch under warmwhites - running 6500K only for veg now. It would be pretty good news if spectrum was a little overrated though You're absolutely right about PAR - it's a little higher for the warmwhites (more photons per watt because the red ones are cheaper, hehe)

 

[DrBudGreengenes]

how do you stop the bastards from floating up when you fill it?

Mine ...the tray holds about 7 gallons of Nutes....it is added 1 gallon at a time over a 15 minute period

Place your Plant in a container the is slightly larger and deeper than it is .....add 1/2 inch of water to the bigger container. now fill the top of you plant container with water.....now add more water to the bigger container til the plant pot starts to become buoyant....now fill the top of the plant container again you should start to see bubbles coming up thru the medium...repeat those steps until the soil line in the pot is 1/8-1/4 inch under water...let it sit til' no more bubbles come up then move to another container to drain​

 

[DrBudGreengenes]

Hello and welcome to day 23......
We were so lil' an cute 23 days ago

Day 23 @ 12/12.....
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[en-lighten-ment]

Sweet thx