innertaining illectric ideas
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can you provide a link? thanx.
no mas ... oh, man, i fucking love it ... too many videos to watch ... i've got two other projects i have to do first, before working on free energy. but it's nice to prime the pump.
clearly nobody has figured this out yet, no matter how many videos there are.
i love how trying to measure the input power is such a difficult task. but if it is over unity, it should be able to charge the batteries and still produce some useful output.
that's basically what i want to do: charge some batteries.
clearly nobody has figured this out yet, no matter how many videos there are.
i love how trying to measure the input power is such a difficult task. but if it is over unity, it should be able to charge the batteries and still produce some useful output.
that's basically what i want to do: charge some batteries.
Intriguing idea, sadly the laws of physics are set pretty firmly against you. As has been said, if you can genuinely proves this works, you're set for a Nobel prize without a shadow of a doubt.
Budtoaster I'd recommend looking at biofuels you could produce yourself or perhaps one of the renewable sources, if you're wanting to go off the grid. A few windmills and solar panels can provide you with a fair bit of free 'leccy and free hot water to boot.
Budtoaster I'd recommend looking at biofuels you could produce yourself or perhaps one of the renewable sources, if you're wanting to go off the grid. A few windmills and solar panels can provide you with a fair bit of free 'leccy and free hot water to boot.
thanks, trich, nice talk.
@BullDogUK - i live next to a tidal river. should be pretty easy to make that work for me. somehow. just gotta do some funds raising first to buy some tools and time.
@BullDogUK - i live next to a tidal river. should be pretty easy to make that work for me. somehow. just gotta do some funds raising first to buy some tools and time.
http://www.designnews.com/document.asp?doc_id=235000&page_number=1
http://www.builditsolar.com/Projects/Hydro/hydro.htm
I can imagine some fairly simple hydro-generator designs, though I guess the exact type would depend on whether you're using water level or flow or a mix of both for the power generation. Essentially though it's a water wheel connected to a turbine is it not? Could be a good alternative!
Trich that was a really awesome video dude! It's really great to get visualizations like that. Personally, on a global scale, I think our best bets lie with cracking fusion. It's a bit of a gamble and many people are against it due to it being both not well established and 'nuclear' but I feel it could well be a real possibility were we to actually fund it properly.
http://www.builditsolar.com/Projects/Hydro/hydro.htm
I can imagine some fairly simple hydro-generator designs, though I guess the exact type would depend on whether you're using water level or flow or a mix of both for the power generation. Essentially though it's a water wheel connected to a turbine is it not? Could be a good alternative!
Trich that was a really awesome video dude! It's really great to get visualizations like that. Personally, on a global scale, I think our best bets lie with cracking fusion. It's a bit of a gamble and many people are against it due to it being both not well established and 'nuclear' but I feel it could well be a real possibility were we to actually fund it properly.
just saw a great YT on using magnets as a rotor to convert an induction AC fan motor to be a 40 watt alternator when turning < 1000 rpm.
my hydro will be flow, running about 1/2 to 3/4 knot (back of the envelope calculation). or as a heat sink for a heat difference engine.
i can see using a 3d printer to make the frames for the alternator. lots more videos to watch and learn.
my hydro will be flow, running about 1/2 to 3/4 knot (back of the envelope calculation). or as a heat sink for a heat difference engine.
i can see using a 3d printer to make the frames for the alternator. lots more videos to watch and learn.
Bud thats a great point, Trich have you ever considered 3D printers? You seem like the type who would get a hell of a lot from it! Imagine being able to design and create just about any gizmo you could desire, including upgrades for the printer. I reckon the corporate model as we know it is going to take a serious hit once those things become more affordable. Right now it's only the price keeping me away...
I've always thought an excercise bike linked to a dynamo to charge a battery (like those little wind-up torches but larger scale) would be a good way to power a lower wattage array of LEDs.
It's not perpetual motion but it'll counter the long term damaging effects of the munchies.
It's not perpetual motion but it'll counter the long term damaging effects of the munchies.
all the while attempting to afford those munchies...
my concept is not perpetual either, there is significant maintenece involved, but a far cry from utility bills.
no one wants to work for a living...
this will not relieve you of that.
but it will supplant or replace utilities as we know them.
i'm outta gas...your milage may vary.
have some faith.
Carnot efficiency[edit]
Main article: Carnot's theorem (thermodynamics)
The second law of thermodynamics puts a fundamental limit on the thermal efficiency of all heat engines. Even an ideal, frictionless engine can't convert anywhere near 100% of its input heat into work. The limiting factors are the temperature at which the heat enters the engine, , and the temperature of the environment into which the engine exhausts its waste heat, , measured in an absolute scale, such as the Kelvin or Rankine scale. From Carnot's theorem, for any engine working between these two temperatures:[4]
This limiting value is called the Carnot cycle efficiency because it is the efficiency of an unattainable, ideal, reversible engine cycle called the Carnot cycle. No device converting heat into mechanical energy, regardless of its construction, can exceed this efficiency.
Examples of are the temperature of hot steam entering the turbine of a steam power plant, or the temperature at which the fuel burns in an internal combustion engine. is usually the ambient temperature where the engine is located, or the temperature of a lake or river that waste heat is discharged into. For example, if an automobile engine burns gasoline at a temperature of and the ambient temperature is , then its maximum possible efficiency is:
It can be seen that since is fixed by the environment, the only way for a designer to increase the Carnot efficiency of an engine is to increase , the temperature at which the heat is added to the engine. The efficiency of ordinary heat engines also generally increases with operating temperature, and advanced structural materials that allow engines to operate at higher temperatures is an active area of research.
Due to the other causes detailed below, practical engines have efficiencies far below the Carnot limit. For example, the average automobile engine is less than 35% efficient.
Carnot's theorem only applies to heat engines, where fuel is burned. Devices that convert the fuel's energy directly into work without burning it, such as fuel cells, can exceed the Carnot efficiency.
this is history. no burning fuel, will exceed any and all parameters of previous examples and without polluting whatsoever. only needs water source.
Main article: Carnot's theorem (thermodynamics)
The second law of thermodynamics puts a fundamental limit on the thermal efficiency of all heat engines. Even an ideal, frictionless engine can't convert anywhere near 100% of its input heat into work. The limiting factors are the temperature at which the heat enters the engine, , and the temperature of the environment into which the engine exhausts its waste heat, , measured in an absolute scale, such as the Kelvin or Rankine scale. From Carnot's theorem, for any engine working between these two temperatures:[4]
This limiting value is called the Carnot cycle efficiency because it is the efficiency of an unattainable, ideal, reversible engine cycle called the Carnot cycle. No device converting heat into mechanical energy, regardless of its construction, can exceed this efficiency.
Examples of are the temperature of hot steam entering the turbine of a steam power plant, or the temperature at which the fuel burns in an internal combustion engine. is usually the ambient temperature where the engine is located, or the temperature of a lake or river that waste heat is discharged into. For example, if an automobile engine burns gasoline at a temperature of and the ambient temperature is , then its maximum possible efficiency is:
It can be seen that since is fixed by the environment, the only way for a designer to increase the Carnot efficiency of an engine is to increase , the temperature at which the heat is added to the engine. The efficiency of ordinary heat engines also generally increases with operating temperature, and advanced structural materials that allow engines to operate at higher temperatures is an active area of research.
Due to the other causes detailed below, practical engines have efficiencies far below the Carnot limit. For example, the average automobile engine is less than 35% efficient.
Carnot's theorem only applies to heat engines, where fuel is burned. Devices that convert the fuel's energy directly into work without burning it, such as fuel cells, can exceed the Carnot efficiency.
this is history. no burning fuel, will exceed any and all parameters of previous examples and without polluting whatsoever. only needs water source.
have some faith.
I trust anything faith based ;-)
Especially if it's involved in the wiring my of house
I think the idea is admirable but to quote Scotty "Ye Cannae change the laws of physics".
It's also worth noting that the benefits of the grid is it has various stores of energy to deal with peak usage and teams of people coordinating it to keep the power up enough.
So basically, good luck, but you're not likely to get much in ways of results.
If you have a septic tank you maybe able to harvest methane and other combustible gases, sounds horrible doesn't it?
If you could grow some quick growing trees like eucalyptus (buying wood is currently more exensive than gas) and burn your own wood in a modern logburner-powered heating system this would reduce your heating bill right down.
Fitting solar pannels to heat your water or generate some of your power usage (depending on the kinds of panel used) might be a worthwhile idea.
Hydroelectric dams are hugely ecologically damaging and in the next hundred years we'll see fewer and fewer dams. waterwheels though are a good method of power generation if attached to a turbine, wind likewise, but you'll likely need a great deal of wind and a large turbine to make a noticeable impact.
You could also look into converting petroleum-based generators for use with bio-fuels and oils. I remember in Yorkshire we had a massive shortages of vegetable oil when diesel prices first started shooting up. Surprisingly, most diesel engines are actually fine to use vegetable oil off the bat with little work but I think if you put your mind to it, you could come up with some interesting concepts. But anyway, I'm sure you could probably get in touch with a wholesale V-oil producer and get it pretty damn cheap.
I trust anything faith based ;-)
Especially if it's involved in the wiring my of house
I think the idea is admirable but to quote Scotty "Ye Cannae change the laws of physics".
It's also worth noting that the benefits of the grid is it has various stores of energy to deal with peak usage and teams of people coordinating it to keep the power up enough.
So basically, good luck, but you're not likely to get much in ways of results.
If you have a septic tank you maybe able to harvest methane and other combustible gases, sounds horrible doesn't it?
If you could grow some quick growing trees like eucalyptus (buying wood is currently more exensive than gas) and burn your own wood in a modern logburner-powered heating system this would reduce your heating bill right down.
Fitting solar pannels to heat your water or generate some of your power usage (depending on the kinds of panel used) might be a worthwhile idea.
Hydroelectric dams are hugely ecologically damaging and in the next hundred years we'll see fewer and fewer dams. waterwheels though are a good method of power generation if attached to a turbine, wind likewise, but you'll likely need a great deal of wind and a large turbine to make a noticeable impact.
"whatever the mind of man can conceive, he can achieve."
my concept will not even bend the laws of physics, but use them to better advantage. we are learning daily our understanding is incomplete...
...and it has no combustion internal or external so no emissions.
funny you should mention wind...
http://www.nbcnews.com/id/25374237/...ence/t/man-made-tornadoes-could-power-future/
think i've said enough. thank you for the reminder. be seein' yas.
It's a very nice fridge-magnet quote, it's just not true.
I mean self belief can really help to change the apparent odds against something within human systems, on a religeous, societal, political or even military scale self belief can certainly sometimes really change the likely outcomes
The writer of that quote was a political advisor and a popular self-help author.
He wasn't a phyicist and wasn't talking about physical principles.
It's a bit like that Einstein quote "imagination is more important that knowledge, imagination encircles the world"
People act like he means that knowledge isn't important but the real meaning is that Imagination is the first step in aquiring new knowledge, you have to be able to make imaginative leaps forward test your theory and change it if it's wrong.
And the quote from him on your signiture dosen't seem to have any genuine source behind it, scientific method is just the opposite of that.
Einstein said something vaguely like it but he was saying where a perfect mathematical proof disagrees with what is observed there must be something altering observations.
If you have a peer reviewed mathematical proof showing that your theory should work then you'd already have the nobel prize
I mean self belief can really help to change the apparent odds against something within human systems, on a religeous, societal, political or even military scale self belief can certainly sometimes really change the likely outcomes
The writer of that quote was a political advisor and a popular self-help author.
He wasn't a phyicist and wasn't talking about physical principles.
It's a bit like that Einstein quote "imagination is more important that knowledge, imagination encircles the world"
People act like he means that knowledge isn't important but the real meaning is that Imagination is the first step in aquiring new knowledge, you have to be able to make imaginative leaps forward test your theory and change it if it's wrong.
And the quote from him on your signiture dosen't seem to have any genuine source behind it, scientific method is just the opposite of that.
Einstein said something vaguely like it but he was saying where a perfect mathematical proof disagrees with what is observed there must be something altering observations.
If you have a peer reviewed mathematical proof showing that your theory should work then you'd already have the nobel prize
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