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packerfan79

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- seems like the media these days attributes patriotism with nationalism - then goes straight to Nazism, as if any patriot is some sorta hard-right goose-stepping Nazi -

- so it appears that its not cool to show affection for or love your country in any way - unless you want to be regailed with the usual overused expletives etc.


You are certainly right, unfortunately it's not just the media, many people not in the media are doing the same thing. If you love your country, the left despises you. In response we see right wing parties winning across the world. Can't be an authoritarian globalist if sovereign nations exist.

Call me what ever you want, I love my country. To many brave souls lost their lives, so that we could be free.

Just curious Gypsy what's your take on Brexit?

I am not privy to the opinion of many open minded Brits.
 

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I don't have to respond. The proof of capitalism being the best is in the economic success and wealth of this nation. The market should determine the price of labor. What someone does with the profit is the decision of the business owner.

Exactly. I chose to share. You do not. What does that make you?



OR you run a shitty business.
 

Gypsy Nirvana

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My take on Brexit is that I wish that they would actually, finally Brexit - its been 3 years since the referendum where the majority voted to leave - but as we see the globalists cabal didn't like our decision to leave - and have been trying to stop/delay/reverse the mandate the government got from us Brits to leave.


Personally I don't like the idea of a bunch of unelected (by the people) officials in Brussels making laws that effect how we do business and govern the UK.

The UK is a sovereign nation and supposedly a democracy - but the government seems to be diametrically opposed to the will of the people and have delayed us leaving by saying they want to get us a good deal in leaving when the EEC doesn't want us to leave because we are a major financial contributor, and with the UK leaving, other nations in the EEC might well follow.

Most people I talk to want out of the EEC -
You are certainly right, unfortunately it's not just the media, many people not in the media are doing the same thing. If you love your country, the left despises you. In response we see right wing parties winning across the world. Can't be an authoritarian globalist if sovereign nations exist.

Call me what ever you want, I love my country. To many brave souls lost their lives, so that we could be free.

Just curious Gypsy what's your take on Brexit?

I am not privy to the opinion of many open minded Brits.
 

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- seems like the media these days attributes patriotism with nationalism - then goes straight to Nazism, as if any patriot is some sorta hard-right goose-stepping Nazi -

- so it appears that its not cool to show affection for or love your country in any way - unless you want to be regailed with the usual overused expletives etc.

I would say it depends on which individual or group is claiming to be patriotic.
Most people don’t feel the need to prove it to others, you either are or you aren’t.

However the white nationalist types like to use it along with their racial purity agendas to claim they are the only ones who truly care about how the U.S. does, and anyone not wanting to turn the clock back to the 50’s as far as race equality goes is anti American.

packerfan is a typical example of that mindset

Trumps a great example, a goofy flag hugger who said there were good people on both sides in Charlottesville, and relentlessly pursued the Central Park five for conviction despite the real killers confession and dna evidence. All because they were black. To this day he doesn’t acknowledge their innocence.

If there are people getting called white nationalists for just being patriotic I’m unaware of it, but probably it happens. I would like to hear of examples if there are any.
 

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Personally I think that the UK needs to get rid of the two main parties (conservative and labour) by voting them out in a general election - since this 'political class' look to be lackeys of the EEC and very weak politicians - We need a new statesman/woman to rally behind - someone who can take us out of the EEC effectively and decisively, and hopefully make satisfactory trade deals with the rest of the world - so maintaining prosperity.


I have never voted before - since I never saw anyone worth voting for, and never believed in the main parties - since they constantly lie in their manifesto's - and hardly ever do what they say they will - But I might make one exception in the next general election and vote for the Brexit Party.
 

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We need a new statesman/woman to rally behind - someone who can take us out of the EEC effectively and decisively, and hopefully make satisfactory trade deals with the rest of the world - so maintaining prosperity.

You want a politician who will take you out of a trade agreement with other nations so that they can... get you into a trade agreement with other nations? Interesting take.

What's your biggest problem with the EEC? Trade agreements always involve a give and a take, neither side should be completely happy with it. It should involve compromise from everyone.
 

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Kinda hard to take folks calling Antifa a "domestic terrorist organization" seriously after they were silent about the fact that *this week* Right wing militias *in Oregon* threatened to *kill cops* if they tried to make state senators return to to do their jobs ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

https://twitter.com/nwbtcw/status/1145134496867606528


https://www.infowars.com/shock-vide...s-robs-journalist-portland-police-stand-down/


Shock Video: Antifa Violently Attacks & Robs Journalist — Portland Police Stand Down

Far-left group openly engages in terrorism while police do nothing

Infowars.com - June 29, 2019 Comments
[URL=https://assets.infowars.com/2019/06/andyngoantifa.jpg]View Image[/URL] Image Credits: @JimmyRyan015/Twitter.





Portland Antifa has been caught on video violently attacking Quillette editor Andy Ngo while police look on and do nothing.
Ngo explained Antifa’s coordinated attack in a livestream Saturday following the incident, which independent video confirmed.
Ngo also said Antifa stole his camera equipment during the assault, where he seen being beaten, maced, and doused in milkshakes laced with quick-dry cement.
“Attacked by antifa. Bleeding. They stole my camera equipment. No police until after. waiting for ambulance . If you have evidence Of attack please help,” he tweeted.
Ngo said he was being taken to the hospital to treat his head wounds.
Ngo was covering Rose City Antifa’s so-called “Community Self-Defense Against Proud Boy Attack,” ironic given they were the only group seen initiating violence.
Rose City Antifa’s website specifically mentions Ngo as a target in an article promoting their event.


 

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I would say it depends on which individual or group is claiming to be patriotic.
Most people don’t feel the need to prove it to others, you either are or you aren’t.

However the white nationalist types like to use it along with their racial purity agendas to claim they are the only ones who truly care about how the U.S. does, and anyone not wanting to turn the clock back to the 50’s as far as race equality goes is anti American.

packerfan is a typical example of that mindset

Trumps a great example, a goofy flag hugger who said there were good people on both sides in Charlottesville, and relentlessly pursued the Central Park five for conviction despite the real killers confession and dna evidence. All because they were black. To this day he doesn’t acknowledge their innocence.

If there are people getting called white nationalists for just being patriotic I’m unaware of it, but probably it happens. I would like to hear of examples if there are any.

This right here, this statement you just made is the prime example. Now you get to hear about it

I am a prime example. Actually you just proved my point. I love my country, and don't care what you, or anyone else thinks about it. To you that is supposedly white nationalist. That's a fucking joke dude. I have thanked you for your service to this great nation on multiple occasions, but since I disagree with you on policy, you claim i support white nationalist. In reality I support America. You should try it sometime. I support the GOP, but don't belong. In the GOP when a politician supports shit like white nationalists, we strip them of all commitee assignments. When your Democrats make anti-semitic statements, they condemn all hate, and nothing happens to the politician. Big difference my friend.

Can you give me an actual policy that promotes this fantasy a racial purity platform. Actual policy not fantasy bullshit like open borders, or free healthcare.

By the way the central park 5 were actually going around beating people with lead pipe's. Sure they didn't rape the woman, but in no way were they completely innocent. This occurred at a time when crime was rampant. In response New Yorkers were so feed up they actually elected Rudy Gulliani a Republican mayor. You may not like the way Gulliani did it , but he cleaned up the city, and the vast majority of New Yorkers were quite happy with his actions and the results.
 

Gypsy Nirvana

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The EEC is sour about the UK leaving - and they want to tie us to a deal in perpetuity when we do finally leave - which is actually a worse deal than we have now - So the general consensus is that we will not be free to trade openly with other nations upon Brexit, the EEC will still control that - So its Brexit in name only - if we don't make a clean split -


Its more about self determination as a nation than anything else, and not becoming part of the United States of Europe with the federal government in Brussels who's bosses are not elected but appointed - so treating the UK as some sort of vassal state -


You want a politician who will take you out of a trade agreement with other nations so that they can... get you into a trade agreement with other nations? Interesting take.

What's your biggest problem with the EEC? Trade agreements always involve a give and a take, neither side should be completely happy with it. It should involve compromise from everyone.
 

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When your Democrats make anti-semitic statements, they condemn all hate, and nothing happens to the politician. Big difference my friend.

What was the *exact* 'anti-semitic statement' you're referring to here? Can you quote it for me without looking silly?


By the way the central park 5 were actually going around beating people with lead pipe's. Sure they didn't rape the woman, but in no way were they completely innocent.

There is ZERO.... zero zero zero... evidence that what you're saying is true. You literally just made it up to make Trump's racism seem not racist. Just whole cloth bullshit.
 

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https://bigleaguepolitics.com/exclusive-video-antifa-chants-allahu-akbar-smash-these-nazi-scum/

EXCLUSIVE VIDEO: Antifa Chants ‘Allahu Akbar, Smash These Nazi Scum’

Members of Antifa were recorded chanting “Allahu akbar” in a newly surfaced video.
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A newly surfaced video from the violent Charlottesville clash between mainstream conservatives, the alt right, and Antifa shows dozens of Antifa protesters marching through a street chanting “Allahu akbar, Allahu akbar, smash these Nazi scum”.
An video sent exclusively to Big League Politics by a member of the public who attended the Charlottesville protests as an independent journalist reveals dozens of protesters donning Antifa garb and signs chanting the Islamic phrase “Allahu akbar” and “smash these Nazi scum” before celebrating loudly.
Allahu akbar, loosely translated into “God is Great”, is a phrase used in Islamic prayer and frequently used by radical Islamic terrorists while committing attacks.
Toward the end of the video, one protester loudly exclaims “That is awesome!” at the conclusion of the chant.
 

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This right here, this statement you just made is the prime example. Now you get to hear about it

I am a prime example. Actually you just proved my point. I love my country, and don't care what you, or anyone else thinks about it. To you that is supposedly white nationalist. That's a fucking joke dude. I have thanked you for your service to this great nation on multiple occasions, but since I disagree with you on policy, you claim i support white nationalist. In reality I support America. You should try it sometime. I support the GOP, but don't belong. In the GOP when a politician supports shit like white nationalists, we strip them of all commitee assignments. When your Democrats make anti-semitic statements, they condemn all hate, and nothing happens to the politician. Big difference my friend.

Let's just start with Steve King. 16 years of supporting white nationalists while in congress and still going. Yea, this year he got stripped of his committees. That sure seems like decisive action by the GOP.

Do you need more examples of how you're seeing only what you want to see? Or, what you're being told to see?
 

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Fascism always tricks their followers into believing the opposite of the reality. Their enemies are the fascists ones, they themselves are the freedom fighting patriots! yadda yadda yadda.

the right should really educate themselves on fascism rather than blaming fascism on the left (LOL PRAGERU). they might learn a thing or two about their dear leaders.
 

pipeline

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The left/democrats are aligned with fascist oppression regime not the constitutional/right.



The mainstream globalist corporations are marxist communist (left) if you didnt know. Its all due to controlled media an information. You guys are lost.


Please do not condone any violence. Thats called terrorism. Antifa are domestic terrorists calling for and committing numerous acid attacks. This is civil war right now in America!


https://www.infowars.com/terrorism-...0-acid-attacks-in-portland-oregon-watch-live/


Terrorism! Antifa Carried Out More Than 20 Acid Attacks in Portland, Oregon – Watch LIVE

Terrorist group makes good on threats to use acid on Americans, pledges more attacks across US!

The Alex Jones Show - July 1, 2019 Comments
Image Credits: Icon Sportswire / Contributor / Getty.





Do not miss this essential Monday edition of the most banned broadcast in the world!
 

pipeline

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you guys are lost. no comments for u. will be posting facts. let people decide for themselves
 
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