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Hashislife
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Well for the cripi,
I asked the locals myself. as well as doing research on the web. there is nothing certain, here is what I was told there. there are several legends
- the first, apparently false. but possible, would be GMO weed, developed by drug traffickers.
- the second, would be a cross between a Colombian sativa and a modern indica
- the third, the safest, would be an imported Dutch skunk, can be crossed with northern lights. this is the safest version, because it also came up during my research on the web.
but here I am talking to you about the real cripi, which no longer exists (or no longer really) arriving around the end of 2000 at the beginning of 2010. since that has changed, with the competition between drug traffickers, as well as the democratization of seedshops, today cripi designates any quality hybrid.
I was living here in 2019, for more precision
Petrochemical
Active member
I may have misunderstood and confused the name. My apologies
I have read a book where some smugglers went into Mexico to hook up with a grower/seller. One brought a couple baggies of seeds that they got from previous loads, as a nice gift. The grower/dealer was happy, as they had forgotten about seeds when making their seedless crops that year. Genetics thus spreading back and forth.
Hashislife
Active member
That's totally possible, in reality every story are different, the colombian smoker too don't know. The only thing sure, the cripi is a importated strain.
for me the cripy is the more potent weed i Have smoke in my life, but i donc like so much the flavour. The Medellín polm was incredible with the high of the better sativa, like a Nepalese polm, i think have thcv.
That same book told of a valley where they grew Santa Marta gold. It was supposed to be the minerals in the soil that made the gold color. Who knows?
Imagine if America hadn't made pot illegal, and turned the feds loose on the world to destroy sources of pot. The damage is permanent.
Imagine if America hadn't made pot illegal, and turned the feds loose on the world to destroy sources of pot. The damage is permanent.
Hashislife
Active member
the golden color may be due to nutrients, or drying may be. I agree, prohibition has prevented the regulation of varieties according to their location and their terroirs, as we do with wine. colmbian gold or punto rojo only in Colombia, Nepal Highlands only in Nepal, og kush only in the USA ect... with a worldwide import/export of quality. let me dream please.
Lebanizer
Well-known member
the golden color may be due to nutrients, or drying may be. I agree, prohibition has prevented the regulation of varieties according to their location and their terroirs, as we do with wine. colmbian gold or punto rojo only in Colombia, Nepal Highlands only in Nepal, og kush only in the USA ect... with a worldwide import/export of quality. let me dream please.
OG kush wouldn't exist actually...
Hashislife
Active member
yes, I'm exaggerating a bit,
I'm not that extreme.
you understand what I'm saying, I'm just talking about control, to avoid genetic contamination throughout the world. a possible example (there are surely better) would be to leave landraces free, and a relatively strict control of foreign varieties and hybrids at the risk of invasiveness.
like most plants and animals. for example tomorrow if I travel outside the EU, I cannot take plants or animals without authorization, and so much the better, otherwise the number of endangered species would be multiplied. like the Asian hornet that ravages bees, wasps and European hornets.
Every person selling seeds is doing it to make some money. If a person was doing it to just share genetics with their fellow growers/tokers everybody would get free seeds or just for postage.
People pay for stuff they want. Why judge them on what they pay.
Some people pay $10 for a Starbucks coffee a couple times a day. Some people spend 5-10x for a car than I did for my brand new $14,000 car. Some people have 10 kids, I have none. People spend money on grooming products, hair cuts, expensive clothes while I wear my stuff until it falls off, my hair is shaggy at best.
I smoke out of a bowl or papers. Some people have $2-5000 bongs. $5000 computers, $10000 tv/stereo/entertainment systems.
Different strokes for different folks. But please stop judging people that will spend $100 to $2000 for a pack of seeds while you are talking on your iPhone, driving your $80,000 SUV/Truck, drinking a Starbucks, wearing $500 of new threads and on your way to pick up a new game for your $700 gaming system.
Worn out clothes, Chevy Spark, hamburger/chicken home cooked meal, veggies from the garden and weed from genetics I paid good money for.
I will have some Jamaican "Longtime weed". It will be mine if it is at all possible.
People pay for stuff they want. Why judge them on what they pay.
Some people pay $10 for a Starbucks coffee a couple times a day. Some people spend 5-10x for a car than I did for my brand new $14,000 car. Some people have 10 kids, I have none. People spend money on grooming products, hair cuts, expensive clothes while I wear my stuff until it falls off, my hair is shaggy at best.
I smoke out of a bowl or papers. Some people have $2-5000 bongs. $5000 computers, $10000 tv/stereo/entertainment systems.
Different strokes for different folks. But please stop judging people that will spend $100 to $2000 for a pack of seeds while you are talking on your iPhone, driving your $80,000 SUV/Truck, drinking a Starbucks, wearing $500 of new threads and on your way to pick up a new game for your $700 gaming system.
Worn out clothes, Chevy Spark, hamburger/chicken home cooked meal, veggies from the garden and weed from genetics I paid good money for.
I will have some Jamaican "Longtime weed". It will be mine if it is at all possible.
What is the name of the thread?It won't let me put the link but on page 2 of this Landraces section there is a post with a lot of information.
Not the buyers, but you can judge landrace seed sellers who claim to be "all about preservation" and charge those high prices. If it was truly about "preservation" and "getting the genetics out there into the modern bottlenecked gene pool", their prices would be much lower. People gotta make a living and obviously there's a market for it. But charging 150$ for a 10 pack P1 landrace, which probably was bought for 150$ a pound of seeds - that's not in the name of preservation, sorry.
Also those claims trying to justify prices, like supporting local farmers etc. (in theory great) - would love to see how much of that cash actually ends up with the farmers. Pretty sure it will be just a fraction in most cases.
goingrey
Well-known member
Is that what they charge? For everything? I don't see any prices on the website.
100-150 for most.
I smoked each of the 3 TLT Punto Rojo plants twice now. One is quite nice but not special either. I guess I will clone it. Good potency but not the high I am after. Not really so euphoric or more importantly, trippy or otherworldly. The one ACE PR I smoked produced similar results. Maybe this strain is just not for me.
Have TLT Corinto purple seeds coming soon. I got the Corinto after reading of a fellow here talking about how great it was. He compared it to shrooms. This was in the '90's. Each person's brain is wired different so just rolling the dice on expensive seeds. I am gonna quit buying any for a long time. sure you will Shut up!!
Have TLT Corinto purple seeds coming soon. I got the Corinto after reading of a fellow here talking about how great it was. He compared it to shrooms. This was in the '90's. Each person's brain is wired different so just rolling the dice on expensive seeds. I am gonna quit buying any for a long time. sure you will Shut up!!
44:86N
Active member
I've grabbed a few things from TLT, and grew out 3 lines this year, Kashmir, Pakistan 1975, and Razavi Khoursan. I'm happy with all these, and the descriptions, though kind of embellished, are fairly close.
Still have a South African Sativa, which I will try next year.
The seed stock did seem old, with 60% to 70% germination rates, and the Kashmir seemed more like an IBL, than a diverse 'landrace.' However, I love that Kashmir.
They do have some intriguing offerings, though I will have to have some extra cash available before I spend with them again (which is not so with vendors like Kwik Seeds, who I will gladly fork over $$$ for a new listing because they are fair and generous) --- they are literally the only seed bank I have made purchases with who don't give extras, either extra seeds in the purchased pack, or any other varieties. They haven't exactly "lost" a customer, but I will not be back anytime soon, and will look at the other seed banks who have kicked down freebies first, and they would have to have nothing I am interested in (not likely!).
Still have a South African Sativa, which I will try next year.
The seed stock did seem old, with 60% to 70% germination rates, and the Kashmir seemed more like an IBL, than a diverse 'landrace.' However, I love that Kashmir.
They do have some intriguing offerings, though I will have to have some extra cash available before I spend with them again (which is not so with vendors like Kwik Seeds, who I will gladly fork over $$$ for a new listing because they are fair and generous) --- they are literally the only seed bank I have made purchases with who don't give extras, either extra seeds in the purchased pack, or any other varieties. They haven't exactly "lost" a customer, but I will not be back anytime soon, and will look at the other seed banks who have kicked down freebies first, and they would have to have nothing I am interested in (not likely!).
Heya Yesum,
I wish you a belated Merry Xmas and a good start into the new year!
Same experience here. The Punto Rojo (which is from Criposo) was decent. One was ultra long flowering (20 weeks plus) and had a psychedelic touch to it. Although kind of a cold high and narcotic/sleepy after about one hour. The other plant was more a "gold" type 19 or so weeks flower, smelled of wood, lime, honey and was more friendly, more energetic.
I wish you a belated Merry Xmas and a good start into the new year!
Same experience here. The Punto Rojo (which is from Criposo) was decent. One was ultra long flowering (20 weeks plus) and had a psychedelic touch to it. Although kind of a cold high and narcotic/sleepy after about one hour. The other plant was more a "gold" type 19 or so weeks flower, smelled of wood, lime, honey and was more friendly, more energetic.
Looking forward to what you have to say as always!
Yeah sure. What is a long time in your books? 6 months?
Genetics Junkie
New member
Purchased 3 strains from TLT in late 2021. Grew out Shiraz from Persia (IRI) for seeding this year. Crossed with Lebanese from Ace Seeds. Had to move unexpectedly, never got to try the Shiraz flower. Had to kill 5 males as I had to move during outdoor harvest season in California. Loved the growing Shiraz plants, just received 20 more I ordered December 20, 2022. TLT is a reputable company, they have 2x exceeded my expectations. You can trust their delivery and their genetics.They have an aweful lot of different landraces from all around the globe, it looks like landrace paradise. Does anybody have any experience with them ? Are they legit ? How about their seeds ? How genuine are they ? They could ruin my wallet lol. Their stock is reminiscent of RSC but more expanded not just Asian or African.
Something that I find rather fishy though, is that there's no price or seed packages displayed anywhere and you need to get in touch with them for a pricing.
Thanks for any info you might have.
Cheers.
