Indoor commercially viable Ace strains

[Red October]

I was wondering if anyone could give their insight on some of ace's wares that they would consider to be commercially viable options to try out. Flowering time, bud density, THC production and a good flower to leaf are unfortunately what I'm looking for.

I found a few good plants in a pack of Bubba Kush x Nepal jam and a stellar plant in a pack of hash fruit that I'm going to run but I do need more. Going to run a pack of the fem Malawi x PCK as the fems seem to have a better bud density than the regs because they used the old killer Malawi mother vs the new killer Malawi in the regs that are available on the main seed selling sites, a other one I am considering is the zamdelica x Kali China but I'm not a huge fan of the Kali China effect from what I got out of the Thai chi plants I ran already but can see how it would be appealing to others.

Your opinions are appreciated and I really like the fact Dubi and his company still take extra care to ensure their plants give a good effect, I do plan on using more of their sativa plants as studs further down the line in other crosses but need to find good plants to use in the meantime.

 

[goingrey]

Panama

 

[flylowgethigh]

I had huge success growing Haze x Kali China. That plant was a monster. The dope was good . Yield fantastic.

 

[Ur Humbl Nr8tor]

What do you consider to be commercially viable? I’m in Cali and some of my friends look at my Ace flowers and wonder why they aren’t super rock hard nuggets smelling of some kind of Cookie. Then they smoke them and wonder why they spend hundreds at the dispensary.

OTH loosely gooses and not commercially viable.

but I’d suggest some of those Yo Sammy crosses. I’m going to try C5 x KC and I expect that one might be what you’re looking for.

 

[Ur Humbl Nr8tor]

I had huge success growing Haze x Kali China. That plant was a monster. The dope was good . Yield fantastic.

Absolutely agree. Read my smoke report in strain tag on Ace. Brings sweat to the brow.

 

[FletchF.Fletch]

Most ACE strains that take 12 weeks or less to flower have serious commercial potential. The Pheno Hunt is the fun part. Once you find some Specimens that perform well in your conditions, you can run them like Sled Dogs.

Bangi Haze, Panama, Malawi x PCK, Panama x PCK, Killer A5 Haze, Ethiopia x Malawi, Nepal Jam x Kali China.

 

[Red October]

What do you consider to be commercially viable? I’m in Cali and some of my friends look at my Ace flowers and wonder why they aren’t super rock hard nuggets smelling of some kind of Cookie. Then they smoke them and wonder why they spend hundreds at the dispensary.



OTH loosely gooses and not commercially viable.

but I’d suggest some of those Yo Sammy crosses. I’m going to try C5 x KC and I expect that one might be what you’re looking for.

Because things have become decriminalized here for personal growing and use most of the people have become accustomed to the more OG solid nug type stuff, I've already tried to win over a few people with the more sativa plants but with little luck. The newer less experienced generation seem to follow the American ethos of taste and appearance being the most important and I don't have the energy anymore to try at set them on the right path so at the moment I'll rather follow suit and once things have become a bit easier for me I'll start introducing the stuff I'd prefer to grow and smoke. I'll do my reading up on the C5 x kali China as it fits the bill effects wise that most of the people like being very heavy, I've been out of the selling game for many many years and started growing again for myself initially because I got tired of smoking what the people were selling me.

 

[Red October]

Most ACE strains that take 12 weeks or less to flower have serious commercial potential. The Pheno Hunt is the fun part. Once you find some Specimens that perform well in your conditions, you can run them like Sled Dogs.

Bangi Haze, Panama, Malawi x PCK, Panama x PCK, Killer A5 Haze, Ethiopia x Malawi, Nepal Jam x Kali China.

Thanks Fletch, I've got a pack of bangi haze just sprouting now and I'm looking forward to the Malawi x pck seeds arriving, the killer A5 haze puts me off a bit as most of what I've seen is very leafy and I really hate trimming just finished up the Bubba Kush x Nepal jam seeds and the effect is very nice and it tastes like sherbet to me so I'm going to be running those.

I very much enjoy the pheno hunt and I'm trying to run as many plants as I can in my setup which is killing me a bit as I don't want to sell the stuff that I don't consider to be the best to anyone. The one hashfruit plant I really like has a ceilingless effect and is different from all the other plants, I really like her but she leaves you half burnt out and partially high for the whole of the next day

 

[Koondense]

Panama x BangiHaze would be my pick.
Can not compete with OG in density/tight nug segment, but in every other(important to me) it wins hands down. Find the right pheno and you get a crazy fragrant and appealing weed, frosty "sativa" nugs of big volume and thickness, and a super pleasant trippy effect which lasts long and makes you dream and imagine things in different ways
And if you want some OG qualities maybe crossing them would make it even more commercially viable. But as was said before, selection is needed and rewards can be amazing.

Another set of picks could be something like PCK x Malawi, KillerA5Haze or maybe Malawi x Panama. If you find it also GT x Panama has some magic in it.

Cheers

 

[Red October]

Koondense thanks for that man, alot of the strains I'm going through are definitely meant for more breeding further down the line, with most of the OG stuff that I've tried seems to have the same issue of quick tolerance build up and for me that's just not something I can condone even if it means higher sales volumes because people have to smoke more of it with little reward even if they smell and taste great, the way different stuff smells has always for me just been an indicator of what I'm smoking but it has become an important factor in the market. I'll do my reading up on the strains you've suggested and many thanks for your input as you've been around the block a few times to say the least.

 

[Ur Humbl Nr8tor]

Because things have become decriminalized here for personal growing and use most of the people have become accustomed to the more OG solid nug type stuff, I've already tried to win over a few people with the more sativa plants but with little luck. The newer less experienced generation seem to follow the American ethos of taste and appearance being the most important and I don't have the energy anymore to try at set them on the right path so at the moment I'll rather follow suit and once things have become a bit easier for me I'll start introducing the stuff I'd prefer to grow and smoke. I'll do my reading up on the C5 x kali China as it fits the bill effects wise that most of the people like being very heavy, I've been out of the selling game for many many years and started growing again for myself initially because I got tired of smoking what the people were selling me.

Cool and thanks for explaining. I’m a big fan of the haze x kc as it is potent and seems like it could be a really good producer under the right conditions. That’s why I mention the C5 x KC. I have to imagine that is even more potent and abundant. I’ll be finding out this year under the sun lamp. Good luck!

 

[Red October]

Cool and thanks for explaining. I’m a big fan of the haze x kc as it is potent and seems like it could be a really good producer under the right conditions. That’s why I mention the C5 x KC. I have to imagine that is even more potent and abundant. I’ll be finding out this year under the sun lamp. Good luck!

many thanks again, busy going through the threads for it and it seems very much inline with what I'm looking for, more so than the Zam x KC as it looks to have a higher production and a better flower to leaf ratio. Once I start having the space for sun kissed plants I'm going to be doing a while lot of Tom hill haze, I really really like that line.

 

[Ur Humbl Nr8tor]

many thanks again, busy going through the threads for it and it seems very much inline with what I'm looking for, more so than the Zam x KC as it looks to have a higher production and a better flower to leaf ratio. Once I start having the space for sun kissed plants I'm going to be doing a while lot of Tom hill haze, I really really like that line.

Hope you’ve already secured some THH. I’m down to a few seeds. Not too many options to acquire those genetics moving forward it seems. I’ve grown it and like the OTH, not a commercial plant at all but with very stellar effects. The THH is also a little better suited indoors. Ace OTH loves the sunshine for as long as you can give her.

 

[Red October]

Ur Humbl Nr8tor I was very blessed by madmac and he sent me a good amount of seeds of the THH, seedsman ohaze and 90's ohaze, I already did a few of the THH and 90s ohaze last season outdoors and I found an extremely good plant in the THH selection which I unfortunately lost during a move and want to get her back again, as far as I understand with both lines is there's alot of recessive genes in them so please do make seeds out of your remaining seeds you have as good ones can pop up out of them irrespective of the parent plants used and it's more about a numbers game, definitely not a commercial plant but one of the best I've come across.

 

[zachrockbadenof]

The newer less experienced generation seem to follow the American ethos of taste and appearance being the most important and I don't have the energy anymore to try at set them on the right path .

now ain't that the truth.... i alway tell my youngin's that the weed can look like travis-green, which is what we called shitty pot 50yrs ago, but it can be ass-kickin... the reply is always if it looks shitty, it is shitty... i too have no more energy to set them straight...

 

[Red October]

now ain't that the truth.... i alway tell my youngin's that the weed can look like travis-green, which is what we called shitty pot 50yrs ago, but it can be ass-kickin... the reply is always if it looks shitty, it is shitty... i too have no more energy to set them straight...

It's a sad sad situation but it is what it is, my slightly older sister only started using edibles about 2 years ago and she has a pretty good thing going for her as she makes butter and cookies for the guys in her area out of their trim and gets to keep as much as she needs to keep her supply strong, I sent her my trimmings from my destroyer plants I did last season and she doesn't like it says it makes her think too much and this is another issue with the younger generation as they were never forced to smoke brick weed full of sticks and seeds that blasted you to a different frame of mind that was sometimes uncomfortable. Most users seem to use weed as a way to tune out and not tune in, which is fine but I do believe there should be a balance.

But hopefully if I can find some plants that meet the smell and looks requirements I can sneak it into rotation and get some people to start appreciating the blast off stuff and create my own niche market, the shit that makes you laugh until your cheeks hurt.

 

[MAHA KALA]

What do you consider to be commercially viable? I’m in Cali and some of my friends look at my Ace flowers and wonder why they aren’t super rock hard nuggets smelling of some kind of Cookie. Then they smoke them and wonder why they spend hundreds at the dispensary.

haha good post

here sativa ,has no chance commercially. they will say it is weak, when it is not couchlock, strong body relaxing stone and narcotic. not everybody is looking for the finest wine. some drink that boxed one and are satisfied with it.

 

[Red October]

haha good post

here sativa ,has no chance commercially. they will say it is weak, when it is not couchlock, strong body relaxing stone and narcotic. not everybody is looking for the finest wine. some drink that boxed one and are satisfied with it.

That have me a good laugh because it's true. Box wine connoisseurs.

 

[MAHA KALA]

That have me a good laugh because it's true. Box wine connoisseurs.

and in the morning when headache is too strong, they eat some pills for headache LOL wonderful life haha.

 

[Red October]

and in the morning when headache is too strong, they eat some pills for headache LOL wonderful life haha.

Ain't that the truth man .