Grapefruitroop
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From the same run....in the back its Motorbreath and the front its two mixed varieties Lemon crash and kushmints
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@everyone here: I'd like to see all your ideas for automatic watering and automated runoff systems.
@Grapefruitroop when I look at your room, I'm wondering, do you go around the plants to deal with them?
I would have probably left a trail through the middle instead, just not to have to reach out so far. It's got backpain written all over it.
I know you got your lights now, but I wonder if you thought of it in the planning stages and what might have been your point to do it your way.
Automation ...i have much to improve on ,but haven't been urging it,since my in-laws come around for short stays.
They are not amazed by my hobby,but tolerate it outdoors.. sadly i.doors is too much for them.
Yeah,so everytime they're around, I have to take a tent down or three and pretend the room is just for storage. I really hope they drop that biscuit one day,as it's f@cking annoying
When that day comes, I'll be fully automatic, which sounds like a bludgers dream
@Grapefruitroop when I look at your room, I'm wondering, do you go around the plants to deal with them?
I would have probably left a trail through the middle instead, just not to have to reach out so far. It's got backpain written all over it.
I know you got your lights now, but I wonder if you thought of it in the planning stages and what might have been your point to do it your way.
Automation ...i have much to improve on ,but haven't been urging it,since my in-laws come around for short stays.
They are not amazed by my hobby,but tolerate it outdoors.. sadly i.doors is too much for them.
Yeah,so everytime they're around, I have to take a tent down or three and pretend the room is just for storage. I really hope they drop that biscuit one day,as it's f@cking annoying
When that day comes, I'll be fully automatic, which sounds like a bludgers dream
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Yeah basically i hav to pull the sigle plant out of the table to work on it like pruning and deleafing but ,like i said there the inconvenience that after the 3 week of flowering i cant access anymore and the jungle of green mass start to build up.....and RH skyrockets.......i need to fix this....
A central corridor now that i understand better LED lights would have been probably better...
Those are 600w lights , with only one beeing at 750w, and i noticed the difference cause it produced more and better so im thinkin that probably i could substitute hose 600 with thowys...
Those are brand new cheap 600 w light im waiting few runs and then ill switch to something more powerful....
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Yeah i think is my biggest downpoint....and i def understimated the importance of accessing the plants after the stretch...
But i chosed the central canopy and laterar corridors because i was immaginin to have a better airflow thoughout canopy ,opposite to have the plants stacked near the walls and a central corridor.....but i may be wrong.....
i made those tables out of aluminum studs and polycarbonate sheets...
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First two are Ice Cream Cake and the last one is KushMints at 9 days after transplant
They ve been watered only 2 times in 9 days
Kushmints
They ve been watered only 2 times in 9 days
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Day before Flip
Currently feeding at 0.9 EC once a day; but for the record its a real bitch to have more than one variety on the same drip...some one is gona be less happy fr sure.
Im running KushMints on the very back(short and stocky), Ice Cream Cake in the middle and few stretchy Crip (White Rhino cuts)in the very front...
I found thru trial and error that generally 1.2 EC is enough to keep the girls from getting cal/mag deficiency so I see a few of your girls got a lil tip burn as to where others are struggling with not enough juice bro.....I never went over 1.5 ever but the extra came from bumping up the calmag for the hungrier hybrids.....anyways.....
Good luck on the flip and being able to keep light penetration down into the canopy while keeping your airflow optimum.....all in all a good clean room.....Thanks for the update and .....
Peace.....DHF.....
Good luck on the flip and being able to keep light penetration down into the canopy while keeping your airflow optimum.....all in all a good clean room.....Thanks for the update and .....
Peace.....DHF.....
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Yeah, another point i need to work on is to make sure to get even top apical cuts from the mothers in order to get clones of the same height and vigor; so this means that i need to grow more mothers from the same genetic.
So i took 10 apical cuts from the 2 variety i like most , Motorbreath and Ice Cream Cake , in order to keep 3 mothers x pheno and see if i can get to where i want...
Im used to have 2 mom per pheno , i normally snip 180 cuts to keep 120 rooted healthy ones....but i get them from apical, middle, and bottom branches and the difference in height and shape of plants is noticeble....also the quality and yield is diffrent from clone to clone...this thing has to end!
I need to find a good tutorial on how to prune moms (like bonsai moms) and stick to it, to get a lots of apical shoots instead of the bushy bushes that im growing.....
Pruning for flower is definitely different that pruning for keeeping a productive and vigorous mother....
So i took 10 apical cuts from the 2 variety i like most , Motorbreath and Ice Cream Cake , in order to keep 3 mothers x pheno and see if i can get to where i want...
Im used to have 2 mom per pheno , i normally snip 180 cuts to keep 120 rooted healthy ones....but i get them from apical, middle, and bottom branches and the difference in height and shape of plants is noticeble....also the quality and yield is diffrent from clone to clone...this thing has to end!
I need to find a good tutorial on how to prune moms (like bonsai moms) and stick to it, to get a lots of apical shoots instead of the bushy bushes that im growing.....
Pruning for flower is definitely different that pruning for keeeping a productive and vigorous mother....
All things come with runs under yer belt bro.....bet on it.....first off , no 2 cuts will root in the same time frame and or grow similarly till they`ve been pre-vegged some so all the stragglers can catch up before goin in the bloom room......now....admittedly.....
The youngest growth/apical shoots will indeed root faster , but they`ll also be the smallest cuts of the bunch.....I always had better luck strippin out the middle and lower laterals to end up with bigger cuts to begin with and kinda kept the young growth to itself to catch up and grow legs so foliar building would blast off.....
Then the upper growth of the moms bushed out and provided the next wave for the clone factory so as to be always producing cuts for the future runs.....If your`e runnin 120 plants at a time , you need at least twice the amount of cuts rooting to pick the best of the best that look alike and growing the same to help with stretch and controlling canopy height once put under the big lights and flipped to bloomage......mega plant runs are only as good as their clone production guaranteed.....
Toss all leftover cuts/give em away/sell em for 5 bucks a piece if there`s a market to do so etc., rinse and repeat......My mom plants were in 5 gal buckets of coco and perlite with the bottom 2 1/2 " all chunky perlite and lava rocks with a hole for overflow @ 3"......it`s a passive hydro setup to feed once a day with T-5`s over the tops of the plants to provide optimum watts per sq ft so they`re constantly basting off to supply cuts when needed.....
I took 64 cuts x 2 every 2 1/2 weeks to supply each flip room every 5 weeks on 10 week strains so at least 64 picks of the litter were ready for the bloom rooms when the time came.....it`s the little things you learn that make shit easier as you go bro.....Your room looks great and as you learn you`ll get to where you need to be.....Take care and good luck.....
Peace......DHF......
The youngest growth/apical shoots will indeed root faster , but they`ll also be the smallest cuts of the bunch.....I always had better luck strippin out the middle and lower laterals to end up with bigger cuts to begin with and kinda kept the young growth to itself to catch up and grow legs so foliar building would blast off.....
Then the upper growth of the moms bushed out and provided the next wave for the clone factory so as to be always producing cuts for the future runs.....If your`e runnin 120 plants at a time , you need at least twice the amount of cuts rooting to pick the best of the best that look alike and growing the same to help with stretch and controlling canopy height once put under the big lights and flipped to bloomage......mega plant runs are only as good as their clone production guaranteed.....
Toss all leftover cuts/give em away/sell em for 5 bucks a piece if there`s a market to do so etc., rinse and repeat......My mom plants were in 5 gal buckets of coco and perlite with the bottom 2 1/2 " all chunky perlite and lava rocks with a hole for overflow @ 3"......it`s a passive hydro setup to feed once a day with T-5`s over the tops of the plants to provide optimum watts per sq ft so they`re constantly basting off to supply cuts when needed.....
I took 64 cuts x 2 every 2 1/2 weeks to supply each flip room every 5 weeks on 10 week strains so at least 64 picks of the litter were ready for the bloom rooms when the time came.....it`s the little things you learn that make shit easier as you go bro.....Your room looks great and as you learn you`ll get to where you need to be.....Take care and good luck.....
Peace......DHF......
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Thanks DHF .....always serious pearls of knowledge!
Yeah its awesome how beeing off the schedule of hand watering and playn with hydro gives me much more control and will to make everything perfect to ride that legendary wave of explosive growth im hearing about!!
Of course very single step from growing the mother to final chop its extremely important.....like LJFarming was sayn, if you screw any of these points you wont get em back...of course yeah we are talking to reach very high performance, and would be fun, cause why not, we are gettin ripped off by electric companies and govts all over the world , so we better make the most off a Kilowatt!!!!
Yeah its awesome how beeing off the schedule of hand watering and playn with hydro gives me much more control and will to make everything perfect to ride that legendary wave of explosive growth im hearing about!!
Of course very single step from growing the mother to final chop its extremely important.....like LJFarming was sayn, if you screw any of these points you wont get em back...of course yeah we are talking to reach very high performance, and would be fun, cause why not, we are gettin ripped off by electric companies and govts all over the world , so we better make the most off a Kilowatt!!!!
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These 3 strains are beein fed with 1.8 EC now and the PH is beeing adjusted to 6.0 exact every single reservoir fillup that occours 3 h before the first watering event.....
im also flushing the lines when i fill the res to make sure that the nutrient solution that drips first is not the one sitting 12 hours in the lines.....
3 watering events , 200ml each one except for the last one that is shorter just 130ml....but im still getting too much runoff so prolly ill short also the other two....
I added also the beneficials and mycos....Orca
Everything looks on point....def worth the ph adjustment hussle.....
maybe one of this would be ideal...
These 3 strains are beein fed with 1.8 EC now and the PH is beeing adjusted to 6.0 exact every single reservoir fillup that occours 3 h before the first watering event.....
im also flushing the lines when i fill the res to make sure that the nutrient solution that drips first is not the one sitting 12 hours in the lines.....
3 watering events , 200ml each one except for the last one that is shorter just 130ml....but im still getting too much runoff so prolly ill short also the other two....
I added also the beneficials and mycos....Orca
Everything looks on point....def worth the ph adjustment hussle.....
maybe one of this would be ideal...
Really cool! Is this a sealed room?
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Yes sealed!
These are the Cripz (White Rhino cut)
And the Kushmints....last prune before the net......
These are the Cripz (White Rhino cut)
And the Kushmints....last prune before the net......
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Yeah, me too during veg when waterings are more spread over days i use to adjust to 5.8 to get that full range swing, that i read its very beneficial for nutrient absorbtion...but now im watering 3 times a day and i red that its ok to adjust to 6.0
Another rule im following is to never increase the EC more than 200 microsiemens (0.2) at time, to dont "stress" the plant to adjust the sugar production in the rootzone in order to absorb nutrients from osmosis.....
Its rare that i run a garden so flawless as far as burnt tips and clorosis on leaves so im guessing these rules are working.....
Crip is a selected cut from the White Rhino of GreenHouse seedbank...from Holland
It smells like garlic -musk- earthy.......its a big producer but also insane white resin coverage absolutely top for making hash (comes out all white) ....the downsides are that stretches a lot and you have to be very careful during the cure otherwise you can easly wipe out the most of the pungent smell....
Another rule im following is to never increase the EC more than 200 microsiemens (0.2) at time, to dont "stress" the plant to adjust the sugar production in the rootzone in order to absorb nutrients from osmosis.....
Its rare that i run a garden so flawless as far as burnt tips and clorosis on leaves so im guessing these rules are working.....
Crip is a selected cut from the White Rhino of GreenHouse seedbank...from Holland
It smells like garlic -musk- earthy.......its a big producer but also insane white resin coverage absolutely top for making hash (comes out all white) ....the downsides are that stretches a lot and you have to be very careful during the cure otherwise you can easly wipe out the most of the pungent smell....
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When I was running athena, I was blasting 3.0 thru every day and barely seeing burnt tips. High vpd and led are going to require more as it's a more aggressive environment/more growth. But ever since I switched back to pbp my ec has been running on the higher side and they seem to love it. I feed 3x a day as well but only 1x to runoff. I try to keep my res at 5.8 at all times. Sometimes it'll swing up to 6.1 by the time I'm at 10 gallons. This round I've been trying to somewhat incorporate a good dryback in between my feeds. The first feed of the day being to run off.
