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Imported (Moroccan, Afghani, Nepalase) Hash photo's and discussion....

limey

Member
Maybe I got a different batch than you ? Flavour was quite poor and obviously there was some adulterant. Crappy is harsh indeed, but yeah for me it's on the crappy side (well, still correct enough for me to smoke it all !)

Could be! def no adulterant in what I had

Actually no, as I've been told many times in A'dam, Peshawar or Parvati valley, I happen to make good joints, with tobacco flavour barely noticeable.
When correctly prepared, tobacco added to cannabis can increase the cannabinoids vaporization ratio by up to 45% if memory serves me. Not that bad, eh ?

Sorry I came across all a bit anti-baccy fascist there didn't I? Apologies. When I smoked baccy in joints I was very (some would say "absurdly") fussy about the type/quality of the baccy I used - like you I got compliments on my travels for my joints. Basically I wouldn't roll with anything other than Kendal Light or Three Castles (tobacconist only, unadulterated, very blonde virginian).

However, for the good of my health (all other things considered) I gave it up. What I noticed, with the change is that tobacco (nicotine I guess) genuinely affects the high. before I gave up I would have denied this strenuously but it's true. Weed that used to give me a narcotic buzz/a stone transformed into weed that just got me high. Now I actually missed the narcotic buzz quite badly for a month or two (long after the nicotine craving wore off) but I am happier with things overall. Dont get me wrong, i am not a baccy fascist - I think it's equally legit to skin up with baccy as it is to skin up/bong/whatever pure. I have no problem with people using tobacco really (except in bongs, which is just wrong) but when I see people breaking a Benson&Hedges into a joint of fine weed or hash, it makes me want to cry/shake them violently!!

Anyway man, hope you had a great time in the 'Dam!
 

ElRubio

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THx titoon and sundance...
Hope see both soon

another detail of this dhaula area
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one of the best hashish that i smoked in my life!! strong clear high, moka-flowery taste.
delicius and very potent. Only have seen this quality some little times in A´dam (few times really with appropiate conection)
 

Ribsauce

Active member
hey guys i love looking through this thread at all your wonderful pics and stories... i though dont have the extra cash to take a vacation or trip to Nepal or Afghanistan or Morocco or any of those wonderful hash heavens so i decided to try to bring the goodness a little closer... i grew out some Real Seed Co. Nepalese and just finally harvested the big 11ft tall, seven month plus old girlie i got... i have the buds curing atm after just pickin her last week and am planning on making some wonderful resins from her...anyone on here grow out any of the Real Seed Co. gear as i see you guys mentioning manala, parvarti and lebanese which are all available in seed form from this company... anyway heres a few pics of my nepalese and ill be sure to come back and post some pics of the finished hash i get outta her... once again awesome thread everyone

ohhh and yeaaaaa as Mriko said these strains from Nepal are definitely verrry sativa
 

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wardyleb

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That looks like a lovely plant ribsauce.

I hope your not gonna bubble it though, don't loose any taste if you don't need to. Dry sift & resift is the way i would go, then hand press. I guess you could hand rub but your yield would not be too good, JMHO

I'm sure what ever you do it will be great,

wardy
 

mriko

Green Mujaheed
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your not gonna bubble it though, don't loose any taste if you don't need to. Dry sift & resift is the way i would go, then hand press.

Right on ! DRY SIFT RULES ! :ying:

Irie !
 

Ribsauce

Active member
hey guys im new to the dry sift action but im def gonna try it this time and leave the bubble bags for my worked strains...i have a pretty damn nice kief box with a single screen in it (im unsure of what the screen size is though) do you guys think that this will work well enough to use or should i look elsewhere??
 

mriko

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hey guys im new to the dry sift action but im def gonna try it this time and leave the bubble bags for my worked strains...i have a pretty damn nice kief box with a single screen in it (im unsure of what the screen size is though) do you guys think that this will work well enough to use or should i look elsewhere??

I do my sieving with a single screen (can't remember mesh size, sorry), and am perfectly happy with it. I am not part of this purity & ultra-high THC dangerous fashion so I don't care about having a whole range of screen. Mine makes a balanced and tasty hash, way potent enough for me.
Just don't forget to give the buds enough curing time before sieving, 2-3 months should be a minimum. If not cured, then it's not hashish !

Irie !
 

t12

New member
I do my sieving with a single screen (can't remember mesh size, sorry), and am perfectly happy with it. I am not part of this purity & ultra-high THC dangerous fashion so I don't care about having a whole range of screen. Mine makes a balanced and tasty hash, way potent enough for me.
Just don't forget to give the buds enough curing time before sieving, 2-3 months should be a minimum. If not cured, then it's not hashish !

Irie !

mriko, what's the general ratio of fine quality that you get from cured plants?. they say that you can only get 2-3% max. with dry sifting. but I think with the right strain and process, this can go higher?

one more quesiton, do you know what are the general black afghan types adulterated with? I used to get some stuff which was black and oily, brown inside but tastes like green plant material. ıf there is so much plant material inside how can they get it so oily and black???

btw,last year, in A'dam, I have been offered a bowl of 8 year old afghani from a coffeeshop owner's personal stash. it was something totally different. taste and high was the smoothest ever. so, that means hash is like wine, longer curing makes it better???
 

t12

New member
OK I have finally found the pics of the last good quality turkish stuff that I had seen in 2005. sorry for the quality of the pics. you might have also seen these pics on the net somewhere, cause I had uploaded them at that time.

anyway, this stuff was really clean with a chocolate mint taste and a very strong cerebral high. actually the pics don't do the justice.

the small piece and the big one are the same hash but pressed in different sizes. smaller one shows the oil content much better. the pressing style is the common traditional way with heat...

hope you like them...
 

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mriko

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mriko, what's the general ratio of fine quality that you get from cured plants?. they say that you can only get 2-3% max. with dry sifting. but I think with the right strain and process, this can go higher?

Greetings t12,

well, usually the ratio is about 10% although some strains can reach near 15% (that remain exceptionnal as far as I know). the 2-3% you mentionned would be through further resieving with thinner mesh.
I've never weight the material I've sieved, neither the end result, so I can't say much more about the ratios. I have some weightscales at hand nowadays and few plants going, so will weight it all during my next sieving session and see what ratio I can get from the different strains.

one more quesiton, do you know what are the general black afghan types adulterated with? I used to get some stuff which was black and oily, brown inside but tastes like green plant material. ıf there is so much plant material inside how can they get it so oily and black???

Most of the time, when adulterated, it is with ghee, animal fat, henna or turpentine. Turpentine is said to be an excellent binder with a small quantity being enough to turn try & powdery material into something soft & sticky.
The local pressing process plays a role too. For large quantity, the unpressed resin is poured into somekind of mortar, underwhich a fire is lit. The heated and melting resin is then pounded until it turns into a black goo, through heat & oxidization. This process breaks the walls of resin glands allowing the release of resin, increasing the stickiness and allowing to add drier adulterant and still obtain a soft & sticky end product.

btw,last year, in A'dam, I have been offered a bowl of 8 year old afghani from a coffeeshop owner's personal stash. it was something totally different. taste and high was the smoothest ever. so, that means hash is like wine, longer curing makes it better???

8 year old afghani ? yum, that must be nice indeed ! was it stored under its pollen form or kept as already pressed material (I think that for long conservation it is better to keep it as pollen, thus preventing too much oxidization) ?

You name it ! Hash is like wine, totally same-same.
Wine is fermented grape juice, but fermented grape juice doesn't necessarily means wine. You need the right period of fermentation, and you need the right time of curing/ageing for the wine to "grow" and reveal all its potential. also some wine are good for keeping, some are not.

Hash is same. Hashish is cannabis resin, but cannabis resin is not necessarily hashish. To turn the resin into hashish, it must be dried and it must be cured so as to reveal its potential. On every growing session I run, I always sieve the trim and a few buds. Usually I do a very little right after the buds are dry and the result is always poor quality. Nearly tasteless, and the effect is nothing than a nealry-unpleasant buzz that gives a dull mind. 2 months later I do again some sieving, and the product I obtain is nowhere near that one described above. Nice hashy flavour is there, and a potent high too. Longer curing would make it even better, but I don't grow enough quantity to kep it for long time eheh...

So yes, curing is crucial as it is what turns your resin into hashish. But just like wine, some hash can be kept for long, other for less a long time. Storage condition are also crucial so as the quality doesn't decrease with time. For the afghani, for example, I think it would be wiser to keep it under its pollen form rather than already oxidized pressed/pounded one.

Nice Turkish pics. Couldn't locate any during my last stay in A'dam alas. Would love to sample again some, I have great memories of this material.

Irie !
 

t12

New member
thanks for all this info mriko, I am definitely enlightened...

I don't know if the afghan was stored in pollen form or not, I just saw a black piece that had a "high grade shiny leather" texture...

for the turk in A'dam try either Kashmir Lounge or grasshopers. Kashmir lounge had a greenish black sample which I enjoyed a bit. the grasshopers' one was dark brown but it bubbled nicely when put flame on it and tasted very nice, a bit pricey though..
 

limey

Member
Most of the time, when adulterated, it is with ghee, animal fat, henna or turpentine. Turpentine is said to be an excellent binder with a small quantity being enough to turn try & powdery material into something soft & sticky.
The local pressing process plays a role too. For large quantity, the unpressed resin is poured into some kind of mortar, underwhich a fire is lit. The heated and melting resin is then pounded until it turns into a black goo, through heat & oxidization. This process breaks the walls of resin glands allowing the release of resin, increasing the stickiness and allowing to add drier adulterant and still obtain a soft & sticky end product.

^ a process also described by Howard Marks in Mr Nice, reporting on a trip to Pakistan...

... which always suggested to me that he wasn't exactly buying brilliant quality hash!

Thought this does explain why "general afghan types" are black, it should be noted that the colour of the hash varies quite significantly depending on the plants it is made from and how "clean" the extraction was. Of the ice-o-lator resins I have made in the last couple of years:
*HGFS Caramella produced a very dark resin, irrespective of pore size
*Auto x AK47 produced a white (yes, white, even when pressed) resin at the larger pore size (70) and a brown resin at the smaller pore size (25)
*Paradise Opium produced a tan coloured resin at the large pore size and a slightly darker brown resin at the smaller size...

Likewise, of the hash I have made abroad.. my not terribly well made nepali "pollen" (had poor kit to make it with and little experience at the time) was pale, slightly greenish (leaf matter) and darkened to a light brown... Moroccan a pale brown...
 

ElRubio

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more Nepal hashish pix...

awesome nepali ball. little dirty of vegetal but with a very pleasant and clear high. It was weight bout 30 grammes.

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first a on the left was the tolas scored near Pokhara. I´t was like a gem with a delicate and powerful flavor.

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good vibes all!!
 

t12

New member
limey, ı remember once, making dry sifted hash from only stems and green seedsacks with crystals on it, of a premature green indica landrace turkish plant. the resin that I got by shaking it ina standart shaker was almost white in colour. ı was definitely surprised by the effects also, I then judged that it was caused by the strain itself. the kif from the buds were more blolndish though and the hand pressed result was brownier...
 

Ribsauce

Active member
hey so im still letting my nepalese cure some more until i try my hand at a lil dry sieve but i did use the trim which i had frozen to run through my bubble bags... i didnt get much but what i did get is pretty damn fantastic and very much different to other bubble... the majority of the resin i got was in the 25 micron bag not the 73 pointing to how much of a crazy sativa this strain is... the 25 micron is awesome head rippin stuff and it smells alot like carrots which the plant itself stank like...cant wait for these buds to cure a little more and get on with my dry sift on haha

heres a pic of some of the 25 micron
 

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