Idiot proof growing?

[Wonderon]

What's easiest most idiot proof method to grow, maybe soil? I've been trying to do coco lately and its not going at all how I'd like. Ph problems and unknown issues are preventing me from enjoying the hobby. Once I get one issue conquered or so I think another one hits. I grew once over 12 years (og days) ago using backyard soil and miracle grow and got decent results. I'd like to simplify things so I can feel good about what I'm trying to accomplish but don't want to get shitty results either.

 

[GMT]

Lazy growing, sorry most of the oics were taken down
https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=35636
soil and water, well general garden compost. Takes twice the compost volume, around 20 litres per plant, 20L costs me about 2 quid. Then water with tap water. (mine comes out of the tap at ph 7 and i dont adjust that).

 

[TribalSeeds]

What's easiest most idiot proof method to grow, maybe soil? I've been trying to do coco lately and its not going at all how I'd like. Ph problems and unknown issues are preventing me from enjoying the hobby. Once I get one issue conquered or so I think another one hits. I grew once over 12 years (og days) ago using backyard soil and miracle grow and got decent results. I'd like to simplify things so I can feel good about what I'm trying to accomplish but don't want to get shitty results either.

If there is anything easier than coco it would put me to sleep

 

[oldone]

This one will put you to sleep: Passive Hydro

Or bore you to death...

Check out the PPK thread in my sig. Dont let the name Passive Plant Killer put you off. There is no easier way to grow, period. If I can do it, anybody can.

OO

 

[supermanlives]

organic soil rules. no ph issues, no pumps,no ec readings, no water chillers, and the list goes on .

 

[silver hawaiian]

Not to mention the standard unit of measurement in an organic setup is a little'a this, some'a that, .. Eyeballs FTW

 

[Wonderon]

Thanks for the replys. Id like to learn more about organic soil. Where should I start?

 

[darkstar270]

For organics I'd start here https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=53792. That should keep you busy for a while. Good luck, and Stay Safe!

 

[iampolluted]

love me some organics.....a good soil mix can outlast the longest sativa's, and still have enough fuel to get seedlings started for a couple weeks. just add water. couldn't be easier.

 

[GMT]

All things considered, why do you want to go with the full bells and whistles approach? Surely you'd be better off going as simple as possible till you are getting the right results, then introduce one new thing at a time so that you can fully evaluate the benefit of it.

 

[Wonderon]

I'm willing to try anything. I can't get coco to work if my life depended on it. I get nice looking plants and then in one night without doing anything they start dying. I don't get it. I worked through the basics and tried to understand the workings of each part and like I said one day its good the next they look terrible. I use ro water and heads formula, I have a ph pen and truncheon and still im getting plants that in one day all the leaves go crisp to the touch. This is my 2nd attempt growing and using coco in 3 years, same results both times. Still don't know why but I'm tired of bad results.

 

[hayday]

Thanks for the replys. Id like to learn more about organic soil. Where should I start?

In this post,
https://www.icmag.com/ic/showpost.php?p=5328495&postcount=283
is p.k. mix.
Its a great start and allows room for error or personal tweaks.
I run my own soil instead of F.F. products but after a few years you will figure it out.If you can buy them,run em
Good luck with organics

 

[supermanlives]

lots of info in the organic soil section.

 

[Hydro-Soil]

If you want ultimate simplicity and have cool temps all year.... I'd highly suggest DWC and Maxibloom.

Cheap, simple and pretty much the most foolproof of all methods. $100 for tubs and pumps, $15 for nutes and you already have the meters. Mix 7grams/gallon and start your pH at around 5.4 or 5.2. Add more nutes (till you reach your target ppm) when the pH gets up around 6 and adjust the pH back down to your starting point.

Organic soil is pretty complicated in comparison. LOL

Stay Safe!

edit: I did the research 10 years ago on the methods (at the time) that produced the most 'bumper crops' from the most newbies.... with the lowest number of failures. Hydro with lucas won hands down and is still the most simple method of growing there is. Uncomplicated and simple enough to 'follow without knowing' and still get good/great results.

 

[sso]

i like soil best, no muzz no fuzz (im abysmal with lots of water around, spillages and shit. lol)

plus, i like the taste better.


i even have reused soil with same results, used only aquarium water as a fertilizer for a year (same results as f.e gh flora..)

barely costs me anything to grow really.

 

[Growcephus]

What's easiest most idiot proof method to grow, maybe soil.....

Never underestimate the idiocy of your fellow man.

You can NEVER make something idiot proof.

Idiot resistant? Yes, but never idiot PROOF.

I went with coco hempies for my first run, and I didn't know SHIT about growing ANYTHING. There was certainly a learning curve, however, the coco hempies are VERY forgiving when it comes to watering, and since coco is a neutral media, it allowed me to easily flush it and start over when I fucked up during veg.

I learned to check my runoff after each watering, however, in order to make sure the nutes didn't build up in the coco. I made some mistakes, but in the end, I kept the ladies alive and have some lovely flowers to show for the effort.

(insert chop day photo)

So while not idiot "proof", the coco hempies sure were idiot resistant....well, at least they were resistant to THIS idiot (me ).

If I can do it, pretty much anyone can, because I don't know WHAT the hell I'm doing, but at least I'm having fun in the process!

Luck to you.

 

[iampolluted]

sorry hydro but i have to disagree with the organics is harder statement. if you're able to mix up a garbage can of dirt once every 3 months, and just water from start to finish, organics is insanely easy. add in a water pump hooked to a digital timer and drip system, and you can leave for 2 weeks and you're fine. try that with hydro....

i'd much rather spend $60 (total) for everything i need to make it from seedling to harvest, and not ph, or ppm a thing, or have a deficiency in the process. usually takes me an hr to mix up 30 gallons of soil. 10 minutes to make a seedling mix that last for 2-3 weeks.

how is mixing up nutes every 2-3 days, phing, and balancing it, then checking the ppm, adding to the mix to get it where ya want it, painstaking checking leaves to make sure it's getting everything it needs...blah, blah, blah. you don't need a pump or air stone to grow great weed. mother nature only does hydro to a certain extent and weed isn't one. i'm a lazy grower. all i wanna do is is watch the grass grow so i can smoke it, i don't wanna have to babysit the shit too lol. 1 days worth of work total through a whole grow with organics, and it's not even a full day. that's taking transplanting, watering for the entire grow, and making the soil into account. an hr a week watering (and ya don't even have to be there with a timer), 2 hrs for making dirt, and an hr to transplant. 16 hrs for 1 month veg, 8 weeks flower strain, plus 2 hrs for making dirt, plus an hr to transplant. 19 hrs total for an entire grow. when i was mixing up nutes, i was doing it for 30-45 minutes every 3 days. fuck that, i'm lazy and have weed to smoke. organics is easy if you're physically able to mix up some dirt. i know some can't so that could be an issue, but you can even mix a pot dirt up individually if needed. just my $0.02

oh yeah...you don't need a ph meter or ppm meter either, so organic is cheaper usually too.

 

[sso]

sorry hydro but i have to disagree with the organics is harder statement. if you're able to mix up a garbage can of dirt once every 3 months, and just water from start to finish, organics is insanely easy. add in a water pump hooked to a digital timer and drip system, and you can leave for 2 weeks and you're fine. try that with hydro....

i'd much rather spend $60 (total) for everything i need to make it from seedling to harvest, and not ph, or ppm a thing, or have a deficiency in the process. usually takes me an hr to mix up 30 gallons of soil. 10 minutes to make a seedling mix that last for 2-3 weeks.

how is mixing up nutes every 2-3 days, phing, and balancing it, then checking the ppm, adding to the mix to get it where ya want it, painstaking checking leaves to make sure it's getting everything it needs...blah, blah, blah. you don't need a pump or air stone to grow great weed. mother nature only does hydro to a certain extent and weed isn't one. i'm a lazy grower. all i wanna do is is watch the grass grow so i can smoke it, i don't wanna have to babysit the shit too lol. 1 days worth of work total through a whole grow with organics, and it's not even a full day. that's taking transplanting, watering for the entire grow, and making the soil into account. an hr a week watering (and ya don't even have to be there with a timer), 2 hrs for making dirt, and an hr to transplant. 16 hrs for 1 month veg, 8 weeks flower strain, plus 2 hrs for making dirt, plus an hr to transplant. 19 hrs total for an entire grow. when i was mixing up nutes, i was doing it for 30-45 minutes every 3 days. fuck that, i'm lazy and have weed to smoke. organics is easy if you're physically able to mix up some dirt. i know some can't so that could be an issue, but you can even mix a pot dirt up individually if needed. just my $0.02

oh yeah...you don't need a ph meter or ppm meter either, so organic is cheaper usually too.

im not that organic with my soil,lets say im semi, and still its mostly a set it and forget it deal. all i do is water with a tad of fert and the occasional bucket of aquarium water.


i probably spend a half hour total, every week on my plants (2fx3f 600w hps)

lol , anytime there is some small problem (Since im not totally organic.) and its rare (every third grow or so i might have a small problem.)

i just give a bit of my pee to the plants and then they are fine again. (about a small teacup to each large plant followed by normal watering.)

...actually, i have never seen anything that couldnt be fixed by that..

 

[Wonderon]

I'm liking the sound of organics something fierce. Id like to be able to leave for a day or two I want without worrying all hells gonna break loose. I feel like with coco I have to babysit for sure. Multiple times a day checking to make sure they haven't got poop face. I am not giving up on coco yet though as I have all the supplies but if it goes to shit one more time I'm gonna try organics. Simple is fun and with my busy schedule I want to enjoy the hobby not get burdened by it. I take it organics pulls comparable yields too?

 

[iampolluted]

if ya went full organic you probably wouldn't even have to do that lol. i didn't think the plants could break down the urea like that. i was under the impression that beneficial bacteria would be the ones to break it down for the plants to use. i could be wrong though, it's been known to happen.