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We have been gone for 5 years, 3 months, and 20 days. We had to leave fast, and luckily one of the mods erased everything pertaining to me, and my old name is a banned word that you can't even search for. It had to be that way, because we didn't know which alphabet boys were looking for us. Our party in Breckenridge was a farewell of sorts. And then we were in the wind, and running. We are so blessed to have some pretty amazing friends, a few of whom are on this site. Their friendship meant more to us than we can ever say. The way they never wavered in their emotional support, loyalty, love, friendship, and balls, will forever stay with us, and made us remember not all people are shit. A scumbag told on us, turned our lives upside down, because he didn't want to deal with his own shit, so he passed it on. Karma will get him! We have never felt so alone and pushed out, as when we went running. We have lost "friends", but realized they played fast and loose with the with the word friend, because as soon as we needed them, they were gone, some people actually told us we can be friends again once we are all good!!! We went running, and never once even considered talking to LEO, but some "friends" dropped us, because they were worried. We are not snitches or cooperators, and it really hurt when "friends" said they were worried for their own personal safety. To those "friends" we just want to thank, cause we became stronger when you turned your backs. We wish those "friends" nothing but peace and happiness. We are just happy to be back from the fringe. It's lonely out there! The blessing of our true friends, love of our kids, and the belief we had in ourselves, is what gave us the strength to survive such a long time running. Well we are not running anymore, and we have our names back, and we intend to get back to our old selves. We never stopped growing, we continued giving away free edibles, and we never broke. Thank you all in the community, because every plant you grew was in support of us, even if you didn't know it, because that is what we felt. I love the cannabis community, I love all growers. I love my true friends that stuck it out with us........don't know that we would still be sane, if you guys weren't a part of our lives. We love you, true friends. Thanks for the unwavering friendship, loyalty and love you never took away!!! And thank you to the plants, they fed us, housed us, and were the best sounding board. Marijuana is a true Godsend!!!! Blessings to everyone, and stay HIGH, cause that's how O and T got by!!!!!!
 

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shawkmon

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welcome back OK , its a different place these days , wAY slower, thanks instagram
 

Phenome

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maybe I am misunderstanding something, but you only consider someone your friend if they are willing to harbor you when you're a fugative....?
To me it sounds like you trusted a snitch and should have skipped town off the bat and not put that burden on your good friends.
I don't want to cause a debate over this, I just think these could still be good friends....
Just my opinion
 
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Weird

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We have been gone for 5 years, 3 months, and 20 days. We had to leave fast, and luckily one of the mods erased everything pertaining to me, and my old name is a banned word that you can't even search for. It had to be that way, because we didn't know which alphabet boys were looking for us. Our party in Breckenridge was a farewell of sorts. And then we were in the wind, and running. We are so blessed to have some pretty amazing friends, a few of whom are on this site. Their friendship meant more to us than we can ever say. The way they never wavered in their emotional support, loyalty, love, friendship, and balls, will forever stay with us, and made us remember not all people are shit. A scumbag told on us, turned our lives upside down, because he didn't want to deal with his own shit, so he passed it on. Karma will get him! We have never felt so alone and pushed out, as when we went running. We have lost "friends", but realized they played fast and loose with the with the word friend, because as soon as we needed them, they were gone, some people actually told us we can be friends again once we are all good!!! We went running, and never once even considered talking to LEO, but some "friends" dropped us, because they were worried. We are not snitches or cooperators, and it really hurt when "friends" said they were worried for their own personal safety. To those "friends" we just want to thank, cause we became stronger when you turned your backs. We wish those "friends" nothing but peace and happiness. We are just happy to be back from the fringe. It's lonely out there! The blessing of our true friends, love of our kids, and the belief we had in ourselves, is what gave us the strength to survive such a long time running. Well we are not running anymore, and we have our names back, and we intend to get back to our old selves. We never stopped growing, we continued giving away free edibles, and we never broke. Thank you all in the community, because every plant you grew was in support of us, even if you didn't know it, because that is what we felt. I love the cannabis community, I love all growers. I love my true friends that stuck it out with us........don't know that we would still be sane, if you guys weren't a part of our lives. We love you, true friends. Thanks for the unwavering friendship, loyalty and love you never took away!!! And thank you to the plants, they fed us, housed us, and were the best sounding board. Marijuana is a true Godsend!!!! Blessings to everyone, and stay HIGH, cause that's how O and T got by!!!!!!

The place you found is very special to me, IT IS the place that forged the human I am today.

Sometimes I feel it is reserved for those with the integrity to persevere and the humanity to share what they found afterwards.

:) Nice to have you back.
 

paladin420

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maybe I am misunderstand something but you only consider someone your friend if they are willing to harbor you when you're a fugative....?
To me it sounds like you trusted a snitch and should have skipped town off the bat and not put that burden on your good friends.
I don't want to cause a debate over this, I just think these could still be good friends....
Just my opinion
Virgins!!! so cute
 

Weird

3rd-Eye Jedi
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Virgins!!! so cute


I tried to rep you and tell you how funny it is but I gotta spread it around first.

Wish I could say I didn't sport the same cherry at one point.

FWIW you don't have to break a law to be a friend, and in many cases people just don't want to treated like they are dead. Even in the worst instances there is a human being behind that behavior that cause this in the first place. In other instances sometimes that person gives 100% to a community only to be jettison like that is bad apple.

In the end it does nothing for solidarity it simply extends the long arm of the law past its own stated jurisdiction.

Whatever, no judgement, like I said I have had to deal with similar circumstances from both sides the fence and what I learned was invaluable.
 

CosmicGiggle

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Welcome back Outkast, I'm glad you survived the bad times intact and the worst is behind you.

Better days ahead!:tiphat:
 

Weird

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What're trying to say?


all of us prohibition growers are future fugitives, all playing the same game.

In the beginning the mind of the prohibition grower makes rationalizations around every corner to justify the them versus us rift that grows within them because they have to sacrifice a guarantee of freedom by compliancy.

When in a community of growers who haven't been there and back again encounters this dynamic they rationalize the walls they build to keep themselves safe from the fears that come when you associate with someone who is experiencing heat.

The one benefit we have is our solidarity and it gets robbed when this happens.

Once you have been down this road, regardless of what side your one, and see it come full circle, you simply don't look at it the same way.

Hope this helps.
 

Phenome

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all of us prohibition growers are future fugitives, all playing the same game.

In the beginning the mind of the prohibition grower makes rationalizations around every corner to justify the them versus us rift that grows within them because they have to sacrifice a guarantee of freedom by compliancy.

When in a community of growers who haven't been there and back again encounters this dynamic they rationalize the walls they build to keep themselves safe from the fears that come when you associate with someone who is experiencing heat.

The one benefit we have is our solidarity and it gets robbed when this happens.

Once you have been down this road, regardless of what side your one, and see it come full circle, you simply don't look at it the same way.

Hope this helps.
So his point is that I'm new into this because it's legal now, and I've never had any issues like this before...I see.
He can make assumptions based off nothing he wants, I don't mind.

thanks weird
My stance is that if you want a big community of growers in an illegal state, no one should know each others names or locations of gardens.
 

Weird

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Your legality came on the backs of the communities you suggest should not exist.

If it weren't for them would we have what we have now?
 

Phenome

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I never said that. Is there a problem with keeping a community private. You could still have gatherings, clone swaps, legal confrences, knowledge swapping, smoke outs, festivals. Why is sharing your name and garden location detrimental to having a thriving canna community?
 

CosmicGiggle

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So his point is that I'm new into this because it's legal now, and I've never had any issues like this before...I see.
He can make assumptions based off nothing he wants, I don't mind.

I think the point is, IT'S NOT ABOUT YOU!!!:tiphat:
 
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