I used Bushmaster, please help if U can

[zen]

I have always had a problem with height even with tying and prunning, so I tried Bushmaster. I ran a little less than the recommended dosage ~4.5 ml per gallon for 3 days in just water. I flushed and then slowly brought nutes back up.
Good news, the upward growth stopped as addvertised. I had a little "ram's horn", and darker green than normal, but no burning.
Bad news, my flowers are showing ripening now 18 days into a normally 45 day cycle. Why is that bad? The buds are 1/8 normal size and not frosty yet they seemed to have peaked, pistils are turning amber and such, basically is starting to look close to done. ( I have grown this strain from clone about 10 cycles). Also leaf drop has been accelerated, it looks as though it's on the last week also. Everything has been put through a time machine, but quality and size of bud.

How can I slow down ripening? Anything I can do to revive plants?

I have a hybrid aeroponic unit...each plant is in a ~18 gallon container, with ~ 4" constantly aereated solution and 12" of roots sprayed. Rescirculating res, on timer. I use Triflex, and Dutch master's Folitech, and Potash+, at about 1400ppm.

much abliged for any help.

 

[sproutco]

Try increasing calcium. I think this should slow ripening.

 

[zen]

Thanks!
My water is about 160ppm mostly Ca, but I am at 5.9, so it could be locked out. I normally change res only once during flower, at about 3 weeks, and I have gone with no change at 2000ppm and couldn't tell the difference, go figure. I think I'll change res and see if that helps.
Know of a product/nutrient to induce leaves....at the rate my leaves are dropping I'll have no way to power those buds up to size.
Thanks again.

 

[sproutco]

Along with raising calcium levels, try lowering your potassium level. Both of these elements are involved in ripening and senescence. I see your adding potash+. Is this a suppliment to increase normal levels of potassium already present in the normal nutrient solution? You may want to stop applying this.

cy·to·ki·nin -

Any of a class of plant hormones that promote cell division and growth and delay the senescence of leaves.

 

[zen]

This is my first cycle using Potash+. In an attempt to bring out the best in my genetics. I have used bloom enhancers in the past like beastie blooms, Cha ching, hydroplex with good results (compared to not using them). This time I thought I would give Dutch Master Potash+ a try as my bloom enhancer. Honestly though, I realize I changed too many variables at once to get a true indication of Potash+'s influence on the outcome.
I think your right, and thank you for your help. Slowing down the bloom portion, especially the K is a good idea, that I hadn't thought of.
The source of the problem, I'm pretty sure lies with the bushmaster itself or the combo bushmaster with folitech, since I didn't approach this as an experiment, I have no controls.
If I had the space I would do lots of tests. I see some possible benefits for those who want to drastically shorten cycle time. I on the other hand just want the best quality and yield ratio possible with my genetics and setup, time is only a small factor in the equasion.

 

[Guest]

I seen in another Bushmaster thread how they suggest the use of Sea Kelp during the 1st week and about week 4 or 5 in flower the halfway point. When I have grown in the past and used excessive bloom supplements I totally fucked the plants by burning them and didn't get back to 'normal' until the next batch. I noticed too that once you burn them in flowering outside or inside even slightly the results will usually take a turn for the worst.

I say keep going forward as scheduled, maybe even cut the nutrients down to half strength so that you save some fertilizers and risk further harm.

Also chant Nam-myoho-renge-kyo this always helps me with everything. Its simple just say:

Nam-myoho-renge-kyo! Nam-myoho-renge-kyo! Nam-myoho-renge-kyo!

Let us know how it turns out please, keep on keeping on, and try chanting its the key to unlocking your unlimited potential!

 

[zen]

I forgot to mention, I spray with LK and seaweed extract every other spray. I know this isn't the problem, but a source of cytokines as well.
Does anyone know whats in either of these products, GA, ethylene, benylaminopurine? (Folitech or bushmaster)
I do know too much of any hormone can be bad....maybe they have the same hormone, and the effect is exponetial (yes I know I can't spell)

 

[zen]

I can barely say my full name without getting my toungue tied

Now that you mention it, I haven't been playing the Greatful Dead to them this grow, I find my ladies have a better glow when exposed to Sugaree over and over

 

[sproutco]

http://www.plantphysiol.org/cgi/reprint/61/6/883.pdf Take a look at this article. It appears that rin, a tomato that does not ripen, has higher levels of calcium and that calcium retards ripening. See if this is what this article is saying. I am really stoned right now.

Ca has been reported to maintain the integrity of membranes and delay senescence.

 

[Guest]

Nam - Like Vietnam
Myoho - Me Yo(yo) Ho (Ike Turner's terminology for women)
Renge - Ren (like Ren and Stimpy) Ge (pronounced Ghee, or Guy in french)
Kyo - Key Yo(mama joke)

Nam-myoho-renge-kyo!

Always works, give it a shot.

Also with sprays I know that if the chemical isn't dry by the time the lights or sun comes out, its usually gonna be trouble in paradise before you know it.

Maybe some extra Liquid Karma to give them an extra boost at this point? I will chant for you Zen, lets make this expirience into a winning expirience and let it lead you closer towards your goals which you may be accomplishing soon. Keep the Faith and make it happen Zen, I'm rooting for you bud.

 

[zen]

it's 9:00 am! Yes I miss those wakes and bakes. I only smoke a couple of times a week now...otherwise KB doesn't "do it", or I notice a Bell curve on my grades, the down side to growing high potency and having all I need My wife though smokes non stop and studies like a fiend, she is a 4.0 grad student...what was that stuff in UK? 29% THC whatever. Anyways I digress...
Thanks for the read and advice.
Easy disco, thanks for the enlightment!

 

[Guest]

it's 9:00 am! Yes I miss those wakes and bakes. I only smoke a couple of times a week now...otherwise KB doesn't "do it", or I notice a Bell curve on my grades, the down side to growing high potency and having all I need My wife though smokes non stop and studies like a fiend, she is a 4.0 grad student...what was that stuff in UK? 29% THC whatever. Anyways I digress...
Thanks for the read and advice.
Easy disco, thanks for the enlightment!

Right back at you Zen, Your wife sounds like an awesome lady, hopefully her smarts keep rubbing off on you and your grows, the stuff your talking about sounds pretty advanced for a smoker/grower and thats really comendable. Yeah I read about that great weed out there and the bust that brought that high level of THC to the public but you know what nothing beats what you grow for yourself, unless you want it to. With all those special additives your using its only a matter of time before you find more happiness within a great harvest and continued growing schedule. Growing is awesome, chanting and growing is priceless.

So much respect for the SmartWife and keep the positive vibes going, I'm sure your plants will repay you in kind.

 

[sproutco]

At least two gibberellins (hormones which simply encourage growth, and have not, like auxins, growth-controlling properties too) have been identified in seaweed. They behave like those gibberellins which research workers have numbered A3 and A7 -- although they may in fact be vitamins A1 and A4.

http://journeytoforever.org/farm_library/seaweed.html