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ya a friend of mine..has a 2x2x3.5 lil box he made 150w hps.. and hits 70-100 grams a harvest.. with 1 plant scrogged.. he just does it to have a hobby and smoke something free here and there.
I am Going Insane - Please Help!
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Well she looked pretty bad this morning and she looks about the same now that I just got home. I said fuck it and topped her. I'll just leave her alone. I'll wait till this weekend to see if anything happens. If she dies, she dies and I'll use her lights elsewhere. She still have new growth, but something is definitely wrong with her and really only her. So thanks. I will let everyone know what happens.
Also, I have checked out perlite and the only thing I can find is a moisture guard perlite. Is that ok? I don't have a whole lot of choices in my state.
Also, I have checked out perlite and the only thing I can find is a moisture guard perlite. Is that ok? I don't have a whole lot of choices in my state.
Is the soil compact? That can stunt growth, too.
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ig up entire root ball, add perlite to existing mix, moisten existing medium in your pots, dig a concave hole large enough to gently replace the rootball/plant. Water a bit more, but not saturate.
Lights...2 @ 23w is not enough.
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ig up entire root ball, add perlite to existing mix, moisten existing medium in your pots, dig a concave hole large enough to gently replace the rootball/plant. Water a bit more, but not saturate. Lights...2 @ 23w is not enough.
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snype is right. when you over water, it limits the availability of Nitrogen. here, read this, https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=42021
edit: this too. long read but it explains ph and how everything works.
http://herbgrow.co/wp-content/uploads/2014/11/pH-Manifesto.pdf
edit: this too. long read but it explains ph and how everything works.
http://herbgrow.co/wp-content/uploads/2014/11/pH-Manifesto.pdf
Is the soil compact? That can stunt growth, too.
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Lights...2 @ 23w is not enough.
I wouldn't say it's compact, but good idea. And there are actually 10 23 watt bulbs in there right now and 12 more waiting to go in if I could just figure out how to get them in there and make them stay. My bright idea didn't quite work so I am not thinking of a new way.
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Lights...2 @ 23w is not enough.[/QUOTE]
Agree.......i'm flowering 3 small plants in the veg room under 100 watts of CFL, but just as soon as space comes open under 400w hps, they'll be moving.
Agree.......i'm flowering 3 small plants in the veg room under 100 watts of CFL, but just as soon as space comes open under 400w hps, they'll be moving.
Agree.......i'm flowering 3 small plants in the veg room under 100 watts of CFL, but just as soon as space comes open under 400w hps, they'll be moving.[/QUOTE]
I actually miscounted. There are 11 in there right now and I just got some advice on how to get the other 12 in there. I will do that in the morning. There will be a total of 23 bulbs in there. I can barely look in there now. This will definitely blind the shit out of me.
Hey Sandie......Things look to be shaping up. On the off chance, If you happen to be living in Australia....Next time use Yates seed raising mix to sprout your seedlings...I like to mix this with 30 percent vermiculite, but straight out of the bag is fine....Than pot them up into Amgro pot and peat potting mix...I like to mix this with 30 percent vermiculite as well, but perlite is an alright substitute...Mind you, Straight out of the bag is fine....
If your aiming at a very simple indoor grow, PH pens and TDS metres are bye no means mandatory....But good to have as your growing skills improve...You can feed your plants generic fertilizer like Power Feed or Charlie Carp while in Veg....These fertilisers require no PH buffering... Just mix with tap water and pour on...
For small plants it's wise to start out with a half strength dose...
If your aiming at a very simple indoor grow, PH pens and TDS metres are bye no means mandatory....But good to have as your growing skills improve...You can feed your plants generic fertilizer like Power Feed or Charlie Carp while in Veg....These fertilisers require no PH buffering... Just mix with tap water and pour on...
For small plants it's wise to start out with a half strength dose...
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They look a lot better now than they did! You could probably have picked a better soil. More perlite, less sand. I personally grow in fox farms ocean forest. Its premixed and really has everything I need. I never use a drop of nutrients. Just tap water that I set out for a few days. I have occasionally thrown molasses in with water when flowering.
I also just do a small personal CFL grow. You learn a lot as you go and get better at the basics of watering and repotting. I generally water every 4 days in the small containers I'm using. You also learn to time transplants. I start in small cups, have a medium pot, then a final pot. Each time they get a bit more soil and a bit more nutrients. After the final repot they new soil will sustain it for at least 4 weeks. By the time your plant starts running low on nutrients, that's when you want it to.
I'm not saying what I do is the right way to grow, but its natural and I end up with good tasting clean bud. That's all I ever wanted to do. The first grow I did sucked, but each time I've gotten better at these basic things, watering and repotting.
Also Snype knows what he's doing. He's got tons of stuff on IC. He's a good person to listen to, and also a pretty inspiring guy, at least IMO as a grower. Anyway thumbs up on Your ladies! Glad that you are having fun growing all of our favorite plants.
I also just do a small personal CFL grow. You learn a lot as you go and get better at the basics of watering and repotting. I generally water every 4 days in the small containers I'm using. You also learn to time transplants. I start in small cups, have a medium pot, then a final pot. Each time they get a bit more soil and a bit more nutrients. After the final repot they new soil will sustain it for at least 4 weeks. By the time your plant starts running low on nutrients, that's when you want it to.
I'm not saying what I do is the right way to grow, but its natural and I end up with good tasting clean bud. That's all I ever wanted to do. The first grow I did sucked, but each time I've gotten better at these basic things, watering and repotting.
Also Snype knows what he's doing. He's got tons of stuff on IC. He's a good person to listen to, and also a pretty inspiring guy, at least IMO as a grower. Anyway thumbs up on Your ladies! Glad that you are having fun growing all of our favorite plants.
looking better. might be a little hungry i would just wait and see if it improved or gets worse.
you don't wanna do too much when your plant is already having issues it's the fastest way to kill it. I wouldn't dig it up and repot it. in fact i would never advise that under any circumstance unless somehow you accidentally planted in rat poison. in which case dig it up, rinse off the roots real good and repot.
in any other situation just leave it. compact soil...unless you're growing in cement i doubt that's an issue. as for the bulbs and lighting.
lets see... 11x 23w bulbs with roughly 800-1600 lumens each. lets go low end and call em 800lumen bulbs.
so you already have 260watts of light at roughly 8500lumens which is the equivalent of a 100w HID lamp. and you are about to add 12 more for some 16-33,000 lumens the equivalent of a (i see most of these 23watters are 1600 lumens on google) 250w hps at 6 inches from the tops.
if you've never this is a good chart to be familiar with.
explains how light works for all the people who think you can only grow weed with a 1000w gavita.
the closer your light the more intense it is. a smaller light closer is the same or more effective than a larger light farther away. 11x 23w cfl bulbs within an inch of the top of the plants are more effective than a 600w bulb 18 inches off the tops
you don't wanna do too much when your plant is already having issues it's the fastest way to kill it. I wouldn't dig it up and repot it. in fact i would never advise that under any circumstance unless somehow you accidentally planted in rat poison. in which case dig it up, rinse off the roots real good and repot.
in any other situation just leave it. compact soil...unless you're growing in cement i doubt that's an issue. as for the bulbs and lighting.
lets see... 11x 23w bulbs with roughly 800-1600 lumens each. lets go low end and call em 800lumen bulbs.
so you already have 260watts of light at roughly 8500lumens which is the equivalent of a 100w HID lamp. and you are about to add 12 more for some 16-33,000 lumens the equivalent of a (i see most of these 23watters are 1600 lumens on google) 250w hps at 6 inches from the tops.
if you've never this is a good chart to be familiar with.
explains how light works for all the people who think you can only grow weed with a 1000w gavita.
the closer your light the more intense it is. a smaller light closer is the same or more effective than a larger light farther away. 11x 23w cfl bulbs within an inch of the top of the plants are more effective than a 600w bulb 18 inches off the tops
Hey Sandie......Things look to be shaping up. On the off chance, If you happen to be living in Australia....Next time use Yates seed raising mix to sprout your seedlings...I like to mix this with 30 percent vermiculite, but straight out of the bag is fine....Than pot them up into Amgro pot and peat potting mix...I like to mix this with 30 percent vermiculite as well, but perlite is an alright substitute...Mind you, Straight out of the bag is fine....
If your aiming at a very simple indoor grow, PH pens and TDS metres are bye no means mandatory....But good to have as your growing skills improve...You can feed your plants generic fertilizer like Power Feed or Charlie Carp while in Veg....These fertilisers require no PH buffering... Just mix with tap water and pour on...
For small plants it's wise to start out with a half strength dose...
Awww, not in Australia, but that would be cool. I am in Florida. Thanks for the tips!!!
Thank you so much!! I think they are looking much better too!! And yes, I am learning as I go. I don't plan on making money. This is for little old me to actually save money!!
looking better. might be a little hungry i would just wait and see if it improved or gets worse.
you don't wanna do too much when your plant is already having issues it's the fastest way to kill it. I wouldn't dig it up and repot it. in fact i would never advise that under any circumstance unless somehow you accidentally planted in rat poison. in which case dig it up, rinse off the roots real good and repot.
in any other situation just leave it. compact soil...unless you're growing in cement i doubt that's an issue. as for the bulbs and lighting.
lets see... 11x 23w bulbs with roughly 800-1600 lumens each. lets go low end and call em 800lumen bulbs.
so you already have 260watts of light at roughly 8500lumens which is the equivalent of a 100w HID lamp. and you are about to add 12 more for some 16-33,000 lumens the equivalent of a (i see most of these 23watters are 1600 lumens on google) 250w hps at 6 inches from the tops.
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if you've never this is a good chart to be familiar with.
explains how light works for all the people who think you can only grow weed with a 1000w gavita.
the closer your light the more intense it is. a smaller light closer is the same or more effective than a larger light farther away. 11x 23w cfl bulbs within an inch of the top of the plants are more effective than a 600w bulb 18 inches off the tops
I've seen your posts and I really like how you defend CFLs and others say they just won't work. I've seen your plants so obviously it does work and works very well. Thanks for the chart. And I think I will be wearing sunglasses when I check on them from now on!!!
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Looks damn good al!
