Human Genocide Alert

[mean mr.mustard]

Just go back a dozen posts and reread through them.

It's you who is being obtuse.

You went to MIT?

I have problems buying that at this point...

 

[BudToaster]

i guess you don't know either.

 

[mean mr.mustard]

I guess you are that dense.

Using headlines about people dying with the implication of the cause being the vaccine is dishonest, underhanded, and outright shameful.

 

[BudToaster]

I guess you are that dense.

Using headlines about people dying with the implication of the cause being the vaccine is dishonest, underhanded, and outright shameful.

thank-you for responding clearly. however, i have never done that. maybe, being 76, i am just senile and don't remember. which post are you referring to?

 

[mean mr.mustard]

The one I was responding to when you got a little hot in the biscuit to fear monger.

You have the floor to state whether or not you believe that evidence needs to qualify as such.

 

[BudToaster]

The one I was responding to when you got a little hot in the biscuit to fear monger.

You have the floor to state whether or not you believe that evidence needs to qualify as such.

i have no idea what this means

 

[mean mr.mustard]

No suprises.

 

[mean mr.mustard]

Do you believe that evidence should be verifiable?

PS Never mind. I realized how that actually seems in relation to your beliefs.

 

[BudToaster]

post from X about research from FDA:
https://twitter.com/RetsefL
Retsef Levi
@RetsefL

FDA funded research on COVID vaccine-induced myocarditis prognosis: Midterm followup outcomes are assessed as 'reassuring' despite 60% of cases sustaining heart scarring (late gadolinium enhancement), known to increase risk of sudden death & other cardiac complications! Comparison to multisystem inflammatory syndrome provides misleading perception of alternative risk to no vaccination... Not acceptable to recommend these vaccines to anyone!

link:

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S2589537024003882

 

[nepalnt21]

risk to no vaccination

sooo.... like.... you do know that no vaccination often meant natural immunity, right (inb4: yes natural immunity is kinda slightly more robust than vaccine given immunity, moot point) ????

and than natural immunity meant you had to catch covid? which (at least back when the vaccines rolled out) was LEVELS OF MAGNITUDE MORE DANGEROUS THAN THE VACCINES?!?!?!

tell me... aside from teenage boys and young men SPECIFICALLY with the ole moderna vaccine, how does myocarditis from the vaccines compare to myocarditis from covid?

 

[mean mr.mustard]

He likes it when you say "transfection".

Don't ask.

 

[BudToaster]

sooo.... like.... you do know that no vaccination often meant natural immunity, right (inb4: yes natural immunity is kinda slightly more robust than vaccine given immunity, moot point) ????

and than natural immunity meant you had to catch covid? which (at least back when the vaccines rolled out) was LEVELS OF MAGNITUDE MORE DANGEROUS THAN THE VACCINES?!?!?!

tell me... aside from teenage boys and young men SPECIFICALLY with the ole moderna vaccine, how does myocarditis from the vaccines compare to myocarditis from covid?

since the CDC, Fauci, et al say the mRNA transfection does not stop infection and does not prevent spread once infected, i personally don't see the advantage of adding another potential myocarditis trigger. everybody is going to get covid anyway - hey, it's an epidemic (or not) don't you know - so why double up the risk of myocarditis.

every body is different. covid knocked me down for 24 hours while my natural immunity took care of it. now that i am immune, i personally don't need the transfection or the transformation offered by my government - who are known liars.

 

[BudToaster]

repeating a comment (not mine) to amplify on my liars comment above ...

Moderna was developing mRNA for at least a decade and knew of the many problems. [See Unlimited Hangout and Whitney Webb article.] I don't think they KNEW of these specific ones necessarily, but they chose to turn away from the copious deaths and problems they saw and put the product on the market. It was put forth knowing it was deadly and damaging from the 10 years of previous study. Period. And the Pfizer trials showed unequivocally that major, serious problems were seen with this formulation in a variety of ways. [See Daily Clout and their massive study of the FOIA'd Pfizer trials that they wanted hidden for 75 years.] They knew it was deadly, but they also knew Vioxx was deadly and put it on the market. The Pharma industry is evil and causing death is a part of their game. As a final comment, see why the appeal by Brook Jackson's (whistleblower) case was dismissed. This is very critical to understanding the game here. Go and look, but basically they (Pfizer) were doing the whole thing for the DoD and were a hired hand. This is what the appeals court said. It was your government that designed and promoted this thing and Pfizer and Moderna, et al, were not responsible for the result as they were simply following orders for a "demonstration" product. This is where it gets even scarier. [See Sasha Latypova for more details.] There is no end to the deceit and evil at play. And it continues.

 

[nepalnt21]

double up the risk of myocarditis.

that's not even a little bit how it works

do what thou wilst, but the vaccines lower one's chances of dying and/ or being hospitalized by covid, so it was certainly always smarter to get immunity through vaccination first. and then a little while later bolstering said immunity with infection, rather than just relying on infection in the first place and risking hospitalization, permanent disability, and/ or death.

causing death

where are the mass vaccine graves?

there were mass covid graves by like april of 2020.

it's a simple math thunker:

# of vaccine doses and vaccine deaths vs. # of infections and infection deaths before the vaccine rollouts

BILLIONS of vaccines, mind you... and what? 8 or 10 confirmed deaths from the j+j? maybe some others i forgot about from allergic reactions? not to undermine their deaths, but pharmeceutical deaths happen. and honestly thems seems like good ass odds to me...

 

[BudToaster]

there were mass covid graves by like april of 2020.

do you have a link? i don't think that is true.

 

[Chi13]

since the CDC, Fauci, et al say the mRNA transfection does not stop infection and does not prevent spread once infected, i personally don't see the advantage of adding another potential myocarditis trigger. everybody is going to get covid anyway - hey, it's an epidemic (or not) don't you know - so why double up the risk of myocarditis.

every body is different. covid knocked me down for 24 hours while my natural immunity took care of it. now that i am immune, i personally don't need the transfection or the transformation offered by my government - who are known liars.

If you take the view that everyone will sooner or later catch the virus then you are much better off vaccinated. Although vaccination will not necessarily stop you getting the virus, it does reduce your chances of catching it, and should at least make the symptoms less severe.

The relative risk (RR) for myocarditis was more than seven times higher in the infection group than in the vaccination group [RR: 15 (95% CI: 11.09–19.81, infection group] and RR: 2 (95% CI: 1.44-2.65, vaccine group).

Myocarditis in SARS-CoV-2 infection vs. COVID-19 vaccination: A systematic review and meta-analysis

This study aimed to compare the incidence of myocarditis in COVID-19 vaccines and in severe acute respiratory syndrome-coronavirus 2 (SARS-CoV-2) infection groups.Electronic databases (MEDLINE, Scopus, Cochrane Central Register of Controlled Trials, Cochrane ...

www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

People who are vaccinated against Covid-19 also have a much lower risk of getting other serious heart complications caused by the virus, including heart attack and stroke.

Myocarditis and Covid-19 vaccines

We look at the link between myocarditis and Covid-19 vaccines

www.bhf.org.uk

 

[BudToaster]

relative risk is one thing, but absolute risk is another.

the jab is 95% relative efficacy and only 1.1% absolute efficacy. they lie to you with their numbers.

 

[nepalnt21]

do you have a link? i don't think that is true.

yeah sure here you go

new york city, april of 2020

and you can just look up "mass covid graves" on google and you can see some from south america, middle east, etc.

 

[BudToaster]

your link was a blank page. thanks for trying. 90% of the claimed covid deaths were iatrogenic from extremely bad, fatal, nursing home and hospital protocols that guaranteed death.

it was mostly the dry tinder that burned and died - the old and comorbid.

i think you are willing to believe anything that support the lies.

 

[nepalnt21]

it was a "let me google that for you" to a search for "covid mass graves april 2020" because you refused to do a basic search on your own