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HSO Chemdawg
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So how good is this so say Chemdog variety to smoke from HSO ?
HSO = Humboldt Seed Organization? I haven't heard of them until today - checked out their site - seems nice...
Bigger pics of your plants Hypo?? Side shots maybe?
- thanks for the feed back Mike - I take it you've grown some of their gear before? Which ones?
dank.Frank
Bigger pics of your plants Hypo?? Side shots maybe?
- thanks for the feed back Mike - I take it you've grown some of their gear before? Which ones?
dank.Frank
Yet that's exactly what you did.
Your butthurt is amusing, and confirms that you're an elitist idiot who ties part of his identity to some sort of supposed exclusivity.
You're also being a reductionist.. using only your eyes and asking no further.
Your opinion that it's not chem was received perfectly well.. even if someone (NET) didn't agree.
Then you shared an opinion about HSO without knowing shit about them.. that wasn't received as well.
You - they're shit. Im convinced of it and haven't even looked them up.
Me - everything they sold me was just as described, that's all I'm sharing.
You - shit.
So in the course of my trying to be friendly you decided to badmouth my shit as well.
Good showing man!
Not an elitlist, not hung up on chems myself. I could really care less about chem. I do however think its shady when people pass of their what ever seeds as something they are not. I was quite familiar with HSO before this thread so it's not like I had nothing to base my opinion off.
And really none of what I said was even directed at you but since you took the time to make a bunch of half witted assumptions about me and you opened that can of worms I guess I must be a reductionist because your shwaggy ass buds look nothing like any of the chems plain and simple. Im sure all the school kids in your neighborhood think its awesome but anyone that knows anything would probably think its whack.
Your HSO stuff has probably been just like you thought it would because Im sure you dont have a clue about what you should even expect.
Not an elitlist, not hung up on chems myself. I could really care less about chem. I do however think its shady when people pass of their what ever seeds as something they are not.
And really none of what I said was even directed at you but since you took the time to make a bunch of half witted assumptions about me and you opened that can of worms I guess I must be a reductionist because your shwaggy ass buds look nothing like any of the chems plain and simple. Im sure all the school kids in your neighborhood think its awesome but anyone that knows anything would probably think its whack.
Your HSO stuff has probably been just like you thought it would because Im sure you dont have a clue about what you should even expect.
Actually you did direct it at me. But You seem like the oblivious type who always blames other people for opening the can of worms.
My aggression is openly active.
Oh an NET is a schill for not seeing life your way... why don't you take your personality disorder to another thread.
Oh an NET is a schill for not seeing life your way... why don't you take your personality disorder to another thread.
I have ran there gear I have ran there sour d#2, bluedream which IMO the pheno I had tasted exactly like blue dream, and there bubba kush which I would say was a pretty good example of bubba.
Most of the beans I have ran from them I have got for freebies except for there bluedream. But I would say there bluedream is pretty spot on atleast the pheno I had in taste and smell to blue dream I have gotten from Cali. Very silver haze with berry tones the high was just like the bluedream also nothing really to write Home about but the flavor shined.
The sour d I ran outdoors now while it was sour d #2 I would exspect it to be totally different than original sour that I have smoked. I would think that they outcrossed the original and started feminizing the number 2 pheno.
The bubba I got 2 free beans from attitude bday promo had pics in my album of it might not anymore but it grew just like every other bubba I have seen low yield packed a great high starts fading and getting colorful around day 45 and finished around 55 ish. I also took the male that I got because the beans were regular and hit it back to mommy and that's where my bubba F2 pollen can from. I also hit lots of plants last round with this pollen. I actually have pics in my album and you can tell the seedling that I sprouted was very bubba dom. As soon as I get set back up and running again I plan to sprout more beans of the crosses I made with the bubba f2 pollen.
Now as far as there address being from Spain doesn't mean nothing. Most seedbanks are going there because of the laws. Look up the video on Attitude that was just posted about the Spain canna contest and humboldt seed dudes are there with loompa talking about how they are gonna be releasing stuff together under humboldt seeds. As a matter a fact they are gonna be releasing a cookie cross or fem seed in November.
Now you tell me if the dudes sound like they are from Spain? Also doesn't archive use a Spain addy as well? Also doesn't emerald triangle as well? They are all dudes from Cali except archive think he is from somewhere else.
So just because there addy says Spain means nada. If you don't wanna get fucked by the Feds in the states you are better off in Spain or atleast having a web address that says your located in Spain.
Now I am not saying there gear is the end all be all but I would choose them first over fly by night breeders that just started up and trying to get crazy money for there hermie genetics.
My experiences with humboldt has been positive. There blue dream was like bluedream am I saying genetic match plant structure and everything else nope probably not but taste was spot on along with bland boring high of the bluedream. There bubba was nice as well the sour d #2 was growing great until it got yanked but didn't expect it to be like ecsd with a name like sour d #2
Most of the beans I have ran from them I have got for freebies except for there bluedream. But I would say there bluedream is pretty spot on atleast the pheno I had in taste and smell to blue dream I have gotten from Cali. Very silver haze with berry tones the high was just like the bluedream also nothing really to write Home about but the flavor shined.
The sour d I ran outdoors now while it was sour d #2 I would exspect it to be totally different than original sour that I have smoked. I would think that they outcrossed the original and started feminizing the number 2 pheno.
The bubba I got 2 free beans from attitude bday promo had pics in my album of it might not anymore but it grew just like every other bubba I have seen low yield packed a great high starts fading and getting colorful around day 45 and finished around 55 ish. I also took the male that I got because the beans were regular and hit it back to mommy and that's where my bubba F2 pollen can from. I also hit lots of plants last round with this pollen. I actually have pics in my album and you can tell the seedling that I sprouted was very bubba dom. As soon as I get set back up and running again I plan to sprout more beans of the crosses I made with the bubba f2 pollen.
Now as far as there address being from Spain doesn't mean nothing. Most seedbanks are going there because of the laws. Look up the video on Attitude that was just posted about the Spain canna contest and humboldt seed dudes are there with loompa talking about how they are gonna be releasing stuff together under humboldt seeds. As a matter a fact they are gonna be releasing a cookie cross or fem seed in November.
Now you tell me if the dudes sound like they are from Spain? Also doesn't archive use a Spain addy as well? Also doesn't emerald triangle as well? They are all dudes from Cali except archive think he is from somewhere else.
So just because there addy says Spain means nada. If you don't wanna get fucked by the Feds in the states you are better off in Spain or atleast having a web address that says your located in Spain.
Now I am not saying there gear is the end all be all but I would choose them first over fly by night breeders that just started up and trying to get crazy money for there hermie genetics.
My experiences with humboldt has been positive. There blue dream was like bluedream am I saying genetic match plant structure and everything else nope probably not but taste was spot on along with bland boring high of the bluedream. There bubba was nice as well the sour d #2 was growing great until it got yanked but didn't expect it to be like ecsd with a name like sour d #2
I agree with HitH - it looks absolutely NOTHING like a Chem family type genetic at all...
I don't think he's hating on it at all - he is just speaking, FACTUALLY, from a genetic / family line representation.
Sure it may be some decent herb - but I too doubt it being any kind of legit Chem line. What's in a name you say - well, calling it Chemdog sure did get you to buy it, didn't it!!!
See the difference...??
dank.Frank
I bought it mainly to see what this seedbank would come through with after getting burned by much bigger names.. the chem was specifically chosen because I liked the pretty picture they posted, not because of a name or that I expected some exact DNA.
Anyone who expects that from a seed company is fooling themselves. People seem to think I'm defending my plants lineage, and I'm not. For fucks sake I don't even call it chem when I give it out to friends.
OTOH, coming into my thread and tactlessly calling my shit schwag is kind of a dick move.
Agreed. Getting crazy money for reversing other people's creations is so much more noble. I mean why go through all the trouble of doing actual work when all one has to do is take what's popular and reverse it? Don't get me wrong I'm not against reversing clone onlys but the fact that they don't have a single original strain speaks volumes to me.
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MaddyDaddy
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I ordered 3 HSO seeds a couple years ago and really enjoyed the smoke. Popped the last "OG Kush" a few months ago and am really pleased so far!
Of course I wouldn't know a true OG Kush cut if it poked me in the eye...
Of course I wouldn't know a true OG Kush cut if it poked me in the eye...
I am not saying what they are doing is morally right but who am I to judge? Also there are people on these forums bitching at ojd for doing the exact Same thing a little while back.
There are others doing the same exact thing now with silver or sts and getting high price tags.
My point is if they got the go ahead and use the clones then obviously they didn't have restrictions on them. It's a cut throat business there are barely any breeders now a days working there own lines dj shorts of today are like dinosaurs.
There are memebers of this forum that do more work than most breeders sellings seeds and most of the forums memebers are just hobby breeders.
My point about humboldt was all plants I have grown and most were freebie seeds were stable and great plants for free or for the small price tag of 30 some bucks. They do also offer regular seed lines as well.
Not everyone has access to clone stores or Craigslist to buy clones so they choose the best best thing and hope that they will get something close to the original.
Now it's sad when a free seed is better than a shit pack of loud seeds that I bought which was woodys GDP. All plants hermied couple weeks into flip and I wasn't the only one this happened to. I contacted loud and got no response from them at all Facebook and web page.
But hey u win some and you lose some all I was trying to say is humboldt are better than greenhouse and a lot of other cheaper seedbanks out there and more stable than a lot of pollen chuckers that sell beans for a 100 dollar price tag.
Now I am done talking about it. Nice job op as long as you are happy with your plant that's all that matters and you feel you got your money's worth.
There are others doing the same exact thing now with silver or sts and getting high price tags.
My point is if they got the go ahead and use the clones then obviously they didn't have restrictions on them. It's a cut throat business there are barely any breeders now a days working there own lines dj shorts of today are like dinosaurs.
There are memebers of this forum that do more work than most breeders sellings seeds and most of the forums memebers are just hobby breeders.
My point about humboldt was all plants I have grown and most were freebie seeds were stable and great plants for free or for the small price tag of 30 some bucks. They do also offer regular seed lines as well.
Not everyone has access to clone stores or Craigslist to buy clones so they choose the best best thing and hope that they will get something close to the original.
Now it's sad when a free seed is better than a shit pack of loud seeds that I bought which was woodys GDP. All plants hermied couple weeks into flip and I wasn't the only one this happened to. I contacted loud and got no response from them at all Facebook and web page.
But hey u win some and you lose some all I was trying to say is humboldt are better than greenhouse and a lot of other cheaper seedbanks out there and more stable than a lot of pollen chuckers that sell beans for a 100 dollar price tag.
Now I am done talking about it. Nice job op as long as you are happy with your plant that's all that matters and you feel you got your money's worth.
To be honest I really don't feel strongly about them in one way or another. I have no real world (1st or 2nd hand) experience with them nor heard anything negative about the way they operate.
I just found your fly by night comment ironic and made a smart ass comment about it. Up until a google search this afternoon the only exposure I've had to their company has been in the way of hype based marketing which is one of the things I think of when I think of a "fly by night" operation.
I was wrong though about them not having any original crosses. Their site listed several that were a bit more interesting then the stuff being sold at all the sites.
I just found your fly by night comment ironic and made a smart ass comment about it. Up until a google search this afternoon the only exposure I've had to their company has been in the way of hype based marketing which is one of the things I think of when I think of a "fly by night" operation.
I was wrong though about them not having any original crosses. Their site listed several that were a bit more interesting then the stuff being sold at all the sites.
iirc, this company sells s1's of popular clone onlys
I almost forgot I might not of wanted to include greenhouse in the chem debate because chem himself said Arjan has the original chemdog. He verified it on Adam Dunns podcast when they were talking about the birth of chem.
That is ofcourse if Arjan didn't loose it when the place he was keeping moms at got raided. So I guess chances are it might of been lost. It would still be a S1 of the original chem but since chemdog himself validated it u might wanna try greenhouse seeds. This would be the only time I would reccomend shitty greenhouse unless we are talking about his super lemon haze because that's the only other winners I hear about out of his gear.
Don't buy his trainwreck. When I got back into growing I ran his trainwreck and the freaking plant sucked.
That is ofcourse if Arjan didn't loose it when the place he was keeping moms at got raided. So I guess chances are it might of been lost. It would still be a S1 of the original chem but since chemdog himself validated it u might wanna try greenhouse seeds. This would be the only time I would reccomend shitty greenhouse unless we are talking about his super lemon haze because that's the only other winners I hear about out of his gear.
Don't buy his trainwreck. When I got back into growing I ran his trainwreck and the freaking plant sucked.
There's a lot of comment/observation that HSO and Dinafem are the same group - many of the products are the same or slightly renamed. Google the question to find lots of comments on the topic.
Both companies seem to have about the same "meh" reputation ... but honestly, I could care less. I have never ordered anything from them (and may never do so), but every time I pop one of the freebies I get from either company, I get a very nice plant. Just happened again this month ... popped HSO Desert Diesel freebie and, surprise, I'm just finishing a nice super frosty plant with big colas and strong distinctive diesel type flavor and good potency.
cheers,
rabbit
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