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How to use a window for vent without being shady?

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moses224

so you dump in attic and let the vents replace air ,,, or run directly to vents with llines?
 

Capn

Member
I just let the vents passively replace the air. you could set up something to do it manually if thought it would be a problem.
 

haze12421

Member
Thank you for a lot of good replies. I I think I will try to put a small 6 inch hole in the attic where i will be growing that leads to somewhere lol.
Considering the great responses I have gotten already I would like to ask for a little more help.
I have a 400 watt with a cool tube and I want to buy a 1000 watt but dont want to let the 400 sit and collect dust so I would like to use both.
if there is two outlets in the room I should split the watts up for each outlet right ? Like the 1000 watter on one outlet and the 400, fan and hydro system on the other?
Last question is what size fan or fans do you think I would need for a 1400 watt grow?
Was thinking of just buying a xxl tent... Might be easier for maintening tempature etc.. Thanx again for the great replys and I have looked into the forums and try to come up with what size fan or fans but hard to find a grow with 1400 watts and same situation.
Im guessing you guys will say to get 2 fans one to get hot air out from both lights to outside and the other to cool the room. Please help with sizes.
 
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moses224

haze. If the outlets are on same breaker then it really doesn't matter if you run a surge protector and run from same outlet vs splitting over 2 outlets ON SAME BREAKER. It would only matter if the outlets where on different breakers which is highly unusual to have two outlets on two separate breakers in one room. I can push my thousand, 4 fans, co2 and overhead light off one outlet but if i add my 400w it will flip breaker. Give it a try you will know within a few minutes, however if it does flip obviously you will need to run an extension cord and being you have an attic that should be no problem. The way I look at it is as long as its wired correctly it doesn't hurt to try ..... if it flips then you move to extension cord....just my 2 cents
 

haze12421

Member
Thanx Moses, I will prob end up using one of the two bedroom apartments for the grow, I would be lying to friends and saying I have a roomate that works late never around etc.. But I would need everything contained in the room door locked, no extension cords comnig out the door or anything like that. So I guess i wouldnt need to know the fan size for 1400 watts if its not possible in one bedroom
 

strydr

Active member
I wonder if using an old A/C window unit's shell would solve the problem? Taking out the guts and hanging the shell in the window would not look out of place and window units operating in the summer time would give off considerable heat anyway. You could easily mod the inside with plywood/sheetmetal/whatever for your exhaust. Just my two cent.

Namaste, mess

Great idea Messn'!
 
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moses224

Thanx Moses, I will prob end up using one of the two bedroom apartments for the grow, I would be lying to friends and saying I have a roomate that works late never around etc.. But I would need everything contained in the room door locked, no extension cords comnig out the door or anything like that. So I guess i wouldnt need to know the fan size for 1400 watts if its not possible in one bedroom

Dont shoot yourself down so quick where there's a will there's a way....just got to get creative,,,,snake thru wall, thru closet etc... it really depends on the place.....
 

strydr

Active member
Strydr, I offer my deepest apologies, but I am uncertain as to what I did wrong. I just thought that a window A/C shell would provide a bit of stealth. It was not meant to flame or insult.

Again, my apologies,
Namaste, mess

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Was I sounding sarcastic??

I really think you have a great idea there. You could actually build a carbon scrubber inside the A/C case, to save some room. I love hiding things in plain sight..
:joint:
 

messn'n'gommin'

ember
Veteran
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Was I sounding sarcastic??

I really think you have a great idea there. You could actually build a carbon scrubber inside the A/C case, to save some room. I love hiding things in plain sight..
:joint:

I would have PM'ed you but there, evidently, weren't enough posts for that to be an option. So, without taking this thread off topic any more than I already have, I ask you to be patient with me and I will PM you when it is.

btw...I am obviously under a mistaken impression.

Also, locating the scrubber in the shell itself is just pure genius!

Namaste, mess
 
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TroubleGuy

Only problem with this, is that if the air coming out your window is relatively hotter than the surrounding temps, LEO can pick up on the IR signature of your exhaust and potentially use that to fake an affidavit for a search warrant.

Nope. LEO can't use FLIR in the United States unless they've already obtained a search warrant.
 

iGro4Me

The Hopeful Protagonist
Veteran
Thanx Moses, I will prob end up using one of the two bedroom apartments for the grow, I would be lying to friends and saying I have a roomate that works late never around etc.. But I would need everything contained in the room door locked, no extension cords comnig out the door or anything like that. So I guess i wouldnt need to know the fan size for 1400 watts if its not possible in one bedroom


Changing out a 10 or 15 amp breaker for a 20 amp at the panel is really not all that difficult. They pop right in/right out depending on how old the panel is and what type.

It could handle the load that way, or you could alternate lighting fixtures to use both ?

Maybe one MH and another HPS......reaching a little, but just throwing stuff out there.

:2cents:

iGro
 

messn'n'gommin'

ember
Veteran
I would be a bit reluctant to do that. If the circuit itself (i.e. ceiling light, outlets, etc.) was designed for 15A and you install a 20A breaker, you run the risk of the grow drawing more than it was designed to handle and the higher rated breaker might not kick and the circuit could overheat, with disaster the order of the day.

However, a small mom/veg cab with CFL's, in the bedroom your sleeping in might be another option. Cfl's generate little heat and can be cooled with just a computer fan, maintaining stealth. There are several great looking cab's here, made out of small furniture type cabinets (e.g. end tables, pantries, entertainment centers, etc.) that you could get some ideas from and wouldn't look out of place either.

Also, an el cheapo lockset could be installed on the door to the growroom. Giving validity to the "roommate" story.

Namaste, mess
 

BeeBee

Member
I recommend using a 600 watt instead of the 1000, simply to reduce the load on the wiring. An added bonus is a room that runs cooler.
One of my friends, a physically disabled women in her fifties, harvests 10 ounces every 28 days, using one 400 hps (grow), one 600 hps (flower), a purple variety (45-50 days of flower, she does 47), and 16 plants.
The 400 covers a 25 by 25 inch area, big enough for 16 plants in 6 inch, 1 gallon pots. Well-rooted clones are planted and vegged for 9 days, then flowered for 19 (total of 28 days in the room), whence they are moved to the flower room:
The 600 covers a 30 by 36 inch area. Plants are spread out and "finish" flowered for 28 days.
This system has yielded 10 ounces every 28 days (13 harvests a year) for five years. A stronger person who could do a little more work might average 11 to 12 ounces, once they knew what to do.
 
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moses224

one of my veg lights is a 400 and i cover 16 1g plants with it. So we are almost exactly the same i then have 400 next to it and get another 30 4" pots so they step from 4" to 1g to 3g then flower
 

iGro4Me

The Hopeful Protagonist
Veteran
I would be a bit reluctant to do that. If the circuit itself (i.e. ceiling light, outlets, etc.) was designed for 15A and you install a 20A breaker, you run the risk of the grow drawing more than it was designed to handle and the higher rated breaker might not kick and the circuit could overheat, with disaster the order of the day.

However, a small mom/veg cab with CFL's, in the bedroom your sleeping in might be another option. Cfl's generate little heat and can be cooled with just a computer fan, maintaining stealth. There are several great looking cab's here, made out of small furniture type cabinets (e.g. end tables, pantries, entertainment centers, etc.) that you could get some ideas from and wouldn't look out of place either.

Also, an el cheapo lockset could be installed on the door to the growroom. Giving validity to the "roommate" story.

Namaste, mess

I agree, if you're not comfortable doing it (even though it is relatively easy) I wouldn't try it.

I have done it and we have so many handy folks around these parts I was just throwing it out there.

Seeing as how there won't be an actual room mate per se, and no other actual voltage draw, it could be an extreme option.

Personally, I like the wattage reduction idea. :yes:

Peace,

iGro
 
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