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How to stop foxtailing?
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There's not enough lighting with the CO2 for big thick buds. . Boost your lighting with extra watts or lower the fixture you have to slow down fox tailing. IF you doubled your wattage on the next grow, you would get the best buds. 
IMO 400w Max in a 3x3 tent.. I'm surprised you can get that warm under a 250w LED. If you can lower the temp a bit it will help.. Growing under LED is not the same as HID. You will go through a learning curve.. I'm going through this myself. What made my plants happy under HID isn't doing the same under LED. I have to learn new habits and stop my old ones. NOT EASY after so many decades using HID.
Ca++
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Look around 7-10 days ago. It would take a few days to stretch out then fill to this extent
Edit: I'm not sure your data rate would catch a 15 minute lighting issue. It's missing some finer details. I don't recognise what you are using, but don't see anything about the time. I see cyclic behaviour, but where is your lighting timer?
Edit: I'm not sure your data rate would catch a 15 minute lighting issue. It's missing some finer details. I don't recognise what you are using, but don't see anything about the time. I see cyclic behaviour, but where is your lighting timer?
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I don't use a timer, its controlled through a digital switch on the wifi network within the program, and its on a backup UPS as well incase of power loss, I looked 2 weeks back on my PC for better resolution without seeing any issues.
The only time I've been n the room with the lights out was 3 days ago to look for light leaks because I was for sure I may have one but couldn't see anything after 45 mins letting my eyes adjust.
The only way to adjust the timer is to login to the network and unlock the set time.
The only time I've been n the room with the lights out was 3 days ago to look for light leaks because I was for sure I may have one but couldn't see anything after 45 mins letting my eyes adjust.
The only way to adjust the timer is to login to the network and unlock the set time.
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Hammerhead your spot on with the LED learning curve. Been an HID grower for over 10 years and like you said what works for HID don't work with LED. It would have been easier to learn LED grows if I hadn't been growing under HID all these years and applying that experience to LED.
No wonder the new growers love the LEDs so much.
No wonder the new growers love the LEDs so much.
Some plants will stack calyxs and foxtail until they run short of Nitrogen. Heat also encourages it.
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Ca++
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I'm not seeing any fox tails here. I'm seeing the second push. Which comes from excess. The trigger would normally be heat or light, but both seem unlikely. High feed remains possible. I didn't realise it was the N component that does this. I have done it with a qb but it was a susceptible strain. Perhaps 150mm from the panel.
Light seems most likely with this level of fresh growth. I would change my door locks
Light seems most likely with this level of fresh growth. I would change my door locks
Ive done this too many times, and as others have said- nitrogen too high/nutrients too hot/PH off, not enough air movement, or lights too close. Usually a combo. Not necessarily traditional foxtailing, but similar. Some strains are prone to it, like anything.
For a grow that size, good amounts of fresh air is a safer bet than co2
For a grow that size, good amounts of fresh air is a safer bet than co2
Coconaut81
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What do you find you need to do differently?
More food, more cal mag, good leds to plants distance for good and quite average ppfd over whole canopy. You basically need to tune the recipe for more light intensity. And if temps are high you need to make sure u get enaugh water and not too much nutes through the plants.
What he said lol
Everything.
Two questions:
1. So what so bad about making more calyxs or foxtailing? Isn't that more bud?
2. How do you run soil short of nitrogen?
