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How to keep plants happy in 16 oz party cups

medmaker420

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I am trying to stay with the small party cups until they veg longer simply because I don't know which ones I want to keep yet. My problem however is, they want more soil, they want to spread their legs out and it is causing issues with the leaves.

Does anyone know the best way to keep plants happy in small containers? I will assume that with the small soil footprint that they will eat up whatever nutes are in the soil atm so would that also mean I might have to start feeding veg nutes to them faster?

I was watering them once every 2-3 days depending on how long it took for the cup to feel light. I pulled out a few and they have a nice root mass forming and WANT a larger container but I am trying my best to hold off until I find my "keepers" to then switch to the 1 gallon then 3 gallon pots.

I know they are/will be rootbound and they should go into a larger container BUT any thoughts or suggestions on how to keep them happy and fed in these small cups for at least another week or two?

They are about 1 1/2 to 2 weeks old and range in height of 4 to 6 inches depending and the soil is (I know the soil sucks lol) MG Organic with perlite in it 50/50 mix.

What I think I should do,

Water more often possibly and not let them dry out as much.

What I want to know though,

Should I give up on holding out and just put as many as I can into 1 gallons and cull the rest or is there a chance at keeping them happy for another week in these little ass red party cups?

Also, the mg organic has stuff in it that should feed for I think a month or so but I am thinking that the size of the rootmass and the size of the container they will eat through that in no time IF they haven't already. I don't want to add nutes to any of them and fry them but with yellowing leaves I think it does need something BESIDES the larger container.

any thoughts or suggestions will be appreciated,

I didn't know if I should post it here or ask around in the micro grow section. I can see many in that thread growing 2 foot tall plants in tiny party cups but since the plants aren't happy and maybe others might want to keep their plants in these small cups a bit longer might find information here useful.

I will take pics of the root mass once one dries out a bit more as well as the leaf issues that are showing currently.

I was thinking of adding hydr perox with the water to help aerate the soil better and maybe some molasses but don't really want to assume a nute issue with the most assumed issue being the size of the pot and the plants not being happy in them.

The strain btw is my f1's of (ducksfoot male x white rhino female) X Romulan Female so I don't think there is really anyone with this cross who can tell me how the f1's can and will grow. I can't wait to see what the f2's look like and what phenos pop out and is why I want to hold off on culling any until I see something that grabs my attention whether good or bad with each one.

I have enough room for 6 1 gallon pots in the veg cab and currently have over 3 times that in little cups trying to pick my favorites and that is a huge amount to cull all at once and don't want to toss a keeper or two just because I couldn't fit em in the cabinet.

All I need is one more week at most but don't want to hermie or kill em doing it.
 

Che

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If they are starving (yellowing) then give them a light feeding. Otherwise just water them more often. They can last in the solo cups for quite a while, but they'll dry out much quicker once they've root bound the container.
 

medmaker420

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If they are starving (yellowing) then give them a light feeding. Otherwise just water them more often. They can last in the solo cups for quite a while, but they'll dry out much quicker once they've root bound the container.

Do you think I am enhancing the possibilities of hermies by keeping in these as well? Or as long as they are fed and happy they will be fine?

I am just at a toss up right now of what would be best for my girls and the breeding project overall BUT don't want to hinder or kill them waiting around for the "cull day" to get down to my 6 keepers.

I will let them dry out some and put together a light feeding for them and see how it does for them.

thank you for the words for sure
 

drtask

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i've read about root trimming to keep plants smaller and in smaller containers, don't know how/if it would apply to this though. water em more often with a light dose of ferts if they're looking hungry and yellowing. some pics would be great :)
 

Che

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How big are they? 6"? I don't think it's an issue. If they were 18" maybe you would be pushing it, but you've seen how some of these guys do it and they don't seem to have problems.


I like to use the square pots, if you're worried about being root bound you can re-pot them and it's very easy to do with the square ones.
 

Jahkaya

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I would go with a soiless mix of perlite vermiculite with some sort of container to hold the bottom 1/2 inch in water if need be. just find a tupperware that will work for your space and cram them in. maybe make some larger holes in the cups if necessary. Just water with some good organic nutes for whatever stage your are in and I think the plants would turn out okay.
 

medmaker420

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Great ideas,

thank you guys.

I will take a before and after pic of them and post them up for sure.

Waiting on them to dry some and see how they are first then will mix a light dose and see what it does for them.

I am also going to search the micro grow section for those who may have worried about this as well and what fixes they did. If I find anything I will post it here as well incase others are interested in this topic or need the same sort of help.

That is what I love about this forum, help is everywhere even if it was written years ago.
 
i used to grow exclusively in 16 oz cups until flower. the secret is supplying the nutrients. i have kept plants in them for 8 + weeks.

since i just joined, i will try to upload some of my favorite pictures.

lady g
 

medmaker420

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Well I went and did it

kept 6 of 22

transplanted them into some nice and fresh fox farms ocean forest, I WAS in mg organic and happy for the upgrade.

hope I made the right choice on the 6.....

thank you all for the help. I had to let them GROW and they were not happy SO upgrade was needed and the culling couldn't be prevented.
 

FRANKENBLUNT420

me blunt is like, wicked yo!! owight
i have kept my plants in those smae party cups for atleast a month or more. the only thing i think made a difference was that i have lots of EWC inmy soil and teh soil mix i use for vegging plants at that stage is different than the soil i flower with.

all ive seen my plants need to be happy in veg is nitrogen. just like you i watered them when they were or seemed dry. they can last alot longer i think though. just check on them every day, since you'll be watering some more than others and you should be fine.

***ok, you said that you kept 6 of the plants an dput them directly in to FF OCEAN FOREST? thats not a good move as OF is truly strong stuff!! the MG organic the OF are additives that need to be "cut" in order to maximize their use and effects they can have on root chemistry..

not haveing a grow space ready yet, spidermite infestation, no place to transplant them to or in were just some of the causes as to why my cup plants didnt make it, but i know f i was able to keep up with them the way i wanted to , they would still be alive to grow out a couple lbs or two. you cna keep them for along while, jsut keep the soil mix nuetral other than nitrogen and you should be good. if anything whatever nutes you feel you may have to give, keep it at half strength
 

medmaker420

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what would you suggest I put them in to get them out of the mg organic?

OF is not solid soil for a couple week old plants?

I did 50% OF/50% Perlite
 

Doobie Nyce

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you can leave them in their cups a lot longer if you have some long term food on the bottom.

I like to use a teaspoon of peace of mind 5-5-5 sprinkled on the container floor, and an inch or composted poop/perlite mix on top of that. Then I fill w/ my regular soil mix which is pro-mix and worm castings.


This makes it easier for me to keep them a long time in the cups because I just add water! I have a hard time keeping up with cups nutritional needs in a soilless mix using bottled products.



This bad boy has been in the cup around 14 days.

peace!
 

Babbabud

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those are beer cups for beer. Get some pots with some soil for those poor girls ... unless they are beer drinkers
 

moonymonkey

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try things on one cup at a time,not them all if in question wat to try..i dont lik to put all the cookies in the jar if im not sure..but hey thats just me...peace an good advice^^^^
 

medmaker420

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try things on one cup at a time,not them all if in question wat to try..i dont lik to put all the cookies in the jar if im not sure..but hey thats just me...peace an good advice^^^^

I agree with this fully,

for instance

I moved 6 into new Fox Farms OF and into their new 1 gallon homes, but I have 3 "just in case" still in their party cups. Make sure nothing goes wrong with the 6 OR the 3. Hope that makes sense.

I used to do EVERYTHING at once, like with feedings and so on but now I do a test feeding on a couple to see how they react. Since this is a new cross, I don't know how it wants to be fed anyways so I will just be LIGHT on everything and go up as they tell me.

I will see how they like the new soil and go from there. Great info everyone and hope to update with THEY ARE DOING GREAT real soon.
 
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Weedman Herb

Are you using any Enzymes? You might be able to keep them happier by doing so ... Enzymes consume the dead root matter and encourage new roots to form. I grow healthy plants in containers that would appear to be too small for the size of plant that lives in them ... IMHO It would not be possible without enzymes (as Herb prepares for a Product Placement segment) Sensizym is what I'm currently rocking ...
 
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guest1ab

That must have bit the big one, culling 16 plants. What kind of seeds were they from?
I've heard males always seem the strongest. What strain though?
 

ibjamming

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Well I went and did it

kept 6 of 22

transplanted them into some nice and fresh fox farms ocean forest, I WAS in mg organic and happy for the upgrade.

hope I made the right choice on the 6.....

thank you all for the help. I had to let them GROW and they were not happy SO upgrade was needed and the culling couldn't be prevented.

I hope you checked for preflowers before you made your picks. After the 6th or 7th set of leaves, they'll show you who they really are. Very often, the females will shoot out 1 or 2 small fuzzy white pistils where the branches come out of the "trunk". Choose those and you've chosen the girls.

Many times the males look better than the females in their early stages. I've had plants that I really wanted to toss turn out to be the only girls...

I don't mean to assume you don't know this...just adding something for anyone that doesn't know...
 
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guest1ab

those are beer cups for beer. Get some pots with some soil for those poor girls ... unless they are beer drinkers

Yeah ... I agree. I hate those party cups. Except if you're having a kegger or something. :)
 

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