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How to Clone. <=+][Sticky This Sheeet][+=>

stihgnobevoli

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In honor of the new cloning forum that will be coming and to help all the people who are having a hard time cloning i have made a short simple guide for taking clones.

step one, gather your materials. you will need. some potting mix preferably with no fertilizers in it. im using here a mixture of miracle fro brand seed starting mix and jiffy brand seed starting mix. they are exactly the same, mostly peat, with some coco and perlite added. i just put them both into this miracle gro bag since the jiffy mix bag doesnt come with a convenient zip locking top. hint hint jiffy dudes.

you will also need a tray or something like some dixie cups or something to hold the seed starting/potting mix, a humidity dome, or just some sort of thing you can cover the plants with that will keep 90% of the air inside the area directly around the plants. and you will also need water. plain old water. for my example i am using tap water that has been sitting out for like 5 minutes after i took it from the tap in my bath tub. i didn't pH this time, but i pHed it the day before when i watered my flowring plants. it was around 7.0-7.5 for my flowering plants i usually adjust to 6 before i water.
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Step one ....oh wait, you will also need a plant to cut clones from.
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i chose this (these) grapefruit d-lite im growing for the beer cup challenge. i like the super (sickening almost) sweet smell of the buds and the frost coverage at only 4 weeks since flowers started. plus they overgrow my cab and i wan't to to a better show for the guy who gifted me these with a second clone run.
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this is today, you can see where i took the clones from by their bare...legs.

Step One: wet the potting mix, this particular mix is a little hard to wet so i suggest you let it soak up some water before you start.
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STEP 2: select where you will cut from. the buds up top already started developing and i want my buds so i can smoke them. so for these clones we will be taking from the bottom. i wanted to show you you can clone any part of the plant as long as it's not woody. the growing tips are best for this. and since the bottom branches have only just started throwing pistils that AGE (plant age) of the plant is roughly week one of flower. if i took a clone from the top it would be week 4 of flowering and take a lot more time before the branches and leaves grown enough to throw back into the box.

confusing i know. what i mean is that when the clones root, they will take a while before they start growing leaves again. for a week one clone it will be fast, for a week 4 clone it will keep making buds and single leaves for a longer while before it goes back to making just regular leaves. Reveg i think is the common term.
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Step Three: take the cutting, slice the stem at a 45 degree angle or so, you want the steepest cut you can get, you want a large cross section of exposed cells.
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Step FOUR: remove all excess leaves, and scrape the stem slightly with the edge of your scissors or blade or possibly even your fingernail if it is sharp enough. all along the stem all the parts that will be under the soil, lightly scrape. LIGHTLY SCRAPE, just enough to see some scarring to the flesh of the stem.
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Step Fi5e: stick it into the premoistened soil into a pre dug hole. put the cutting into the soil, and then press the soil around it nice and tight.
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after you have finished sticking your clones in the soil and tamping it down nice and tight, you will label them like i have done with color coded toothpicks or whatever you choose to do for multiple varieties. next we water again. the reason we are watering and tamping the soil around the stem tightly is because we need the stem to stay moist in the first few days. and as the soil dries out the cells will be teased into searching for more moisture as that is how roots operate. they seek moisture.
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Step SiX: cover with dome and place under medium to moderate lighting under at least 14 hours of light to keep them from going back to flower mode.
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Step Se7eN: THIS IS THE MOST CRUCIAL AND MOST OFTEN FUCKED UP STEP IN THE PROCESS.

you wait....

yep... now we wait.

keep monitoring every day or two to make sure its not too hot and moist, this will lead to rot and mold. look at the humidity dome and if it is ALL COMPLETELY FOGGY or all dripping with BEADED UP WATER on the ceiling and side walls take the dome OFF.

IF IT IS NOT FOGGY AT ALL EVER- then your environment is too cold or your media is dry. you want to keep it warm and moist. your media should NOT be SOGGY ALL THE TIME, nor should it DRY OUT. just moist, and warm enough to fog up the dome.



Step 8: after some time if you keep everything in the right zone, you will notice new growth, or the leaves will start to TURN YELLOW. this means you have roots and they are starting to use nutrients again.
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exactly 10 days later we have ...um i think i double potted some of them so between 9 and 18 new cones. and as you can see we even have roots coming out the bottom. you can keep growing them in this tray for a while, maybe another week , 2 tops. before they start crowding each other and some start dying from lack of light.
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I hope you have found this thread useful and informative. I made it to help everyone who seems to be having trouble making clones and wasting their time buying snake oils and magic cloners and etc.

i just wanted to show and prove to you that cloning is as easy as dirt.


literally.
 

FreezerBoy

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CLONERS- a collection of various methods exists to provide a "one stop serves all" collection of cloning methods. Towards that end, this individual thread will not be stickied. However, as the above sticky had no soil method previously, this thread is now included in the collection.

Thanks for the great contribution!
 

stihgnobevoli

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i didn't really expect a sticky, but i did believe there would eventually be a cloning forum.
thanks for inclusion in the cloning FAQ, i am honored. when you gonna start growing again? i miss the fridge.
 

FreezerBoy

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I be growin' right now. It's been a struggle in the new place with new water. Sub freezing temps in the garage aren't helping. While tents are 100% anti-stealth, I've a closet a small one would work in and am considering. That or just flip my grow schedule to exclude winter instead of the old way that excluded summer grows.

Again, we needed a soil method. Now we got's one. Woo hoo!
 

Herborizer

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The mention of a cloning forum got me excited. Then fb's clarification brought me back to reality. Until then, please vote for it. See bottom of my sig.
 

FreezerBoy

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Why are tents 100% anti-stealth?

Which of these is not like the others?



I had a roomie die of a heart attack. For 4 hours I answered questions from sheriffs, deputies, coroners, EMTs, families, neighbors friends and lookie loos, all 12" from my grow in full bloom. Not one person asked what the beat up old freezer like device was behind me or why it sounded like a beat up old freezer.

Had I been growing in a tent, I'd be answering those questions inside a federal pen.
 
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Which of these is not like the others?



I had a roomie die of a heart attack. For 4 hours I answered questions from sheriffs, deputies, coroners, EMTs, families, neighbors friends and lookie loos, all 12" from my grow in full bloom. Not one person asked what the beat up old freezer like device was behind me or why it sounded like a beat up old freezer.

Had I been growing in a tent, I'd be answering those questions inside a federal pen.

Yeah freezer fed time for a 4 square foot grow. Only in your world.
 
I can see your point FB. I have my tent where no one ever goes and not in the house. Works well for me because I never have to dark the windows and the room will stay dark even at night with the windows not covered. No one would ever know it was there. That's just me though and it depends on the space that someone has available.

I had a roomie die of a heart attack. For 4 hours I answered questions from sheriffs, deputies, coroners, EMTs, families, neighbors friends and lookie loos, all 12" from my grow in full bloom.

I would have crapped my pants. :Bolt:
 

AlexTrebek

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Good job getting this into the FAQ.
Awesome, pictoral step by step to make sure us noobs don't mess it up, kudos!
 

FreezerBoy

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What's more stealth? lol

Is this a trick question? It's impossible to grow in a freezer. Everyone koff koff knows that. Why would anyone bother to look? They can't even see it. One glance is self explanatory and it then becomes invisible.

Now a patented marijuana stealth grow tent, with a patented marijuana stealth grow tent logo plastered all over it, sitting in the living room with fans and hoses attached... gee, I wonder what's in there?
 

AlexTrebek

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I been starting a dirt grow in a 150Gallon plastic dumpster outside of my home,
everytime someone passes by it they ask the following question:
"How do you push that massive thing up the stairs when it's full of cardboard and plastic?"
I answer "oh I do it bad by bag" and the argument ends there, stealth achieved.

I have yet to see one of those 20+ people think "hey wait a minute, YOU DON'T PUT RECYCLING IN PLASTIC BAGS!!!"

If someone see's or hears something that makes sense, they will accept MUCH MORE OFTEN then they will refute or question it, it's human nature.

This principle is how millions of dollars are ilegally scammed out of banks by criminals wearing nice clothes and a pair of shades, every day.

Can we get back to OP please? Cloning in soil? kudos!
 

Herborizer

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Awesome tutorial. Thanks for the contribution. Though, I have proven in my environment that cloning in dirt is not easy if you have bad water. I know this concept is hard to accept from those people who find cloning so simple. Just feel LUCKY you don't have bad water. Bad water can make cloning a nightmare. It doesn't matter what medium you use.
 

Terramoto

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Hey, im considering a perpetual grow. i have 8 hydro buckets in flowering closet with 210W CFL, i currently have the mothers in half gallon pots and i was wondering what would be the pot size for a mother to take clones of faster? I was considering moving them to a 1 gallon pot each or should i just let them fill this half gallon pots with roots and then cut them and renew the soil on the same pots?
 
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