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I'm still wondering what the advice is for those who want to obey rule number 1 and still not fall into the category of scum.
Why does your own p.o. box not fit the criterion? You use your I.D. and your own ass instead of someone else.
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How do you establish a safe address?
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Why does your own p.o. box not fit the criterion? You use your I.D. and your own ass instead of someone else.
Thanks for the replies so far everyone. Have been getting seeds sent to my regular address for years but have kids now and am more worried about security. Have had a PO Box in the past but I needed photo ID to get it which kind of defeats the purpose. Interesting that there are no real definate answers - have been on various cannabis forums since 1999 and EVERYONE claims to get their seeds sent to a safe addy! Someone in my country recently had their grow busted when customs passed on their address to the police. The best idea I have heard (though I read about it in the paper after these people got busted, ironically) is to install a new mailbox complete with new number at a random block of townhouses or apartments and have it sent there. In this example these people were getting heroin mailed from overseas to their mailbox and the police set-up a camera on it. Apparently they had been using it for 11 years before getting caught. A lot of bother to go to and we dope smokers aren't the most motivated people IME...
Thanks again, look forward to any new ideas.
JKD
Thanks again, look forward to any new ideas.
JKD
I understand the incarceration part but beating and death for some seeds? Just wondering...
lil skunk baby
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Because it'd lead right back... the safe addy has the choice to roll or not... a few seeds with no grow vs. grow plus witness....
stonedwarrior
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not for the seeds, but for the end result of them
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on an unrelated note, a funny way to get back at someone would be to sign them up for all sorts of magazines and catalogs like hundreds.. then their mailbox would be fucked..
(DO NOT DO THIS)
(DO NOT DO THIS)
Ajunta Pall
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Please dude use a little deductive reasoning. Of course its for illicit activity. I doubt he needs a "safe addy" so Visa can deliver his bill.
Been saying this for years. Also been saying it to people who thinks its okay to borrow a friend's car and go to the hydro store in it, and not tell the owner what they are up to.
Dude you're so fucking wrong about this. If someone puts his friends at risk, to further his own greed, or because he can't take the heat for his own decisions, then a person like that is in fact scum. And cowardly, and in general a piece of shit.
Because it'd lead right back... the safe addy has the choice to roll or not... a few seeds with no grow vs. grow plus witness....
How does it lead right back to your grow lol? You don't actually tell the drivers license place where you actually live much less have a grow going on there do you? If so that is on you man...Might want to switch professions
Will it have your correct name? Yea, so your own ass gets in trouble for your own problems instead of someone you don't give a fuck about that you're a pretendafriend to. Real friends don't lie to each other, be deceptive, or put their entire livelihoods at risk as a result of being arrested for some shit they had nothing to do with. Arrest hits the paper friend loses job guilty or not and source of income, home, and family. Oh, and maybe those 3 pills he got from his good friend you don't know about because of a back injury that he is now being charged for a felony with...Lots of bad shit you don't even put a stranger at risk for much less a 'friend'. Sounds like something for cowards who can't take the fall for their own problems begins to waft through the air...
Some of you seem to have no idea what a safe address is and a pretty sad moral compass. It is simply to keep you from getting your grow busted. It is an address with nothing going on at it so if the door gets kicked in nothing happens but a misdemeanor seed bust that you take the fall for.
Never tell the government where you really live. Not for your license or anything. Cop pulls you over don't admit to not living where it says and he can't give you the 25$ ticket or whatever it is in your state for not really living their..."No officer I just moved 2 days ago"....so your law stating that I must pay a tax to receive my drivers license and wait in your long ass lines to get a new one so you can track me doesn't apply to me...
P.S. you guys aren't having seeds mailed to you in your real name as well are you heh?.......or using a credit card...........
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What about involving 3rd party mail couriers then, there's no idea what they are delivering, not a lot of danger involved but it's the same deal for them, and they could put you in your scum bag friends shoes and say your scum and this situation is very similar.
Ways of making safe addresses safer can't only be - being clever about our methods and covering or tracks better and should offer making the lifestyle of ordering seeds and growing pot as normal and risk free as it can be.
Ways of making safe addresses safer can't only be - being clever about our methods and covering or tracks better and should offer making the lifestyle of ordering seeds and growing pot as normal and risk free as it can be.
that is a good point, never occurred to me there could be an ethical issue here
but on the flip side, it's difficult to see a legit remailer ever getting any consequences
swat teams for a seed order? maybe in a few places, but those are places i would not consider for any growing activity
Your logic is flawed here and I will explain why:
3RD PARTY MAIL COURIERS AREN'T AT RISK OF FACING PROSECUTION FOR ANY CRIMES or even being considered for arrest, much less arrested...
lol...
In what way is the mailman at risk for any legal or physical harm? Are they going to raid his USPS truck before he delivers it? Seeing as how they are doing a raid or a knock and talk by investigators in this situation, you think they are actually sending a real mail courier to deliver your package?
Customs discovers what is in it...the DEA/local police follows it up...
For the record I neither condone nor mail contraband to others, let alone unknowingly. My comment touches on the fact there's practically no such thing as a safe addy, in addition to the fact that green tape raids aren't the reality you're suggesting.
Sounds like you're setting yourself up for a fraud charge. Have you checked the law in your state for records falsification? Might be more than $25. Might even draw attention to your real residence and quite possibly your grow. Not to mention fraud complications should you be exposed. Best wishes.
Is it so hard to disagree w/o personal judgement?
You are 100% correct that there is no real 'safe' address that is just 'safer'. This is exactly what I have said as well.
Record falsification and fraud are only viable if you admit you never lived there....Who admits to crimes around here? You just don't renew your license when you move. It was never wholly false...
"I never changed my address since I moved officer sorry" = ~25$ ticket from a cop.
VS.
"(silence or yes this is where I live)" = no ~25$ ticket
or
"I moved a few days ago and have not had time to change my address" = no ~$25 ticket.
Since I've witnessed the above 3 different times from friends dumb enough to admit they don't live at that address I would say this is best...Especially since I did not admit to wrong doing and I still have my license and was never ticketed in any of the occurences...
It also turns out these same friends are usually the ones to also admit to the cop the reasons for which they were pulled over when asked by the cop...lol hmmm
Yes, it definitely pays to know what to say [and] what not to say.
Safer than getting it mailed to your growhouse.
Safe is relative.
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re: not telling -
I think it's safer for a "safe" recipient not to know specifically, but to be aware generally. Not knowing any details of what, where, or when means that info can't be extracted by any means.
I think it's safer for a "safe" recipient not to know specifically, but to be aware generally. Not knowing any details of what, where, or when means that info can't be extracted by any means.
the talk here of remailers has got me thinking a bit
might be applicable to OP, but unsure if his country would allow for this
let us say that a person sets up a small remailing business
business may not do much business(other than yours)
anyways, as a remailer, you seem to have some legal protections
so seeds sent you under another name is quite the different beast
not sure of the finer legalities beyond this point
might be applicable to OP, but unsure if his country would allow for this
let us say that a person sets up a small remailing business
business may not do much business(other than yours)
anyways, as a remailer, you seem to have some legal protections
so seeds sent you under another name is quite the different beast
not sure of the finer legalities beyond this point
