´How do I find back all the spots? but without GPS.

[Mr.Hank]

I love this idea.

I think too at some point you should take all the males, weaks, unesessay, sex unshown's away and leave only certain perfect females. Maby all at one trip 3 weeks after planting or more? Maby not all in the same day, but anyways with one visit per spot to save some trouble.
Getting enough good fenos cant take that mutch seeds? 50 Seeds per litre? So mutch work more and you could focus ur energy for examble to improve the soil. Maby I'm too high... anyways very interesting and Inspiring.

Have you talked about nutrients already? How u gonna deliver phosphorus? Are you gonna go back couple times or more to fert or fert at once or not fer? Sorry im not sure if i read it all. I would love to hear more about ur tekniques amigos.

No dig garden could bring good results. If you can find enough material from the spot.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8CriHmRpeP0

Also what about other weed in nature.. if the soil is good, there is alot of other weeds too. If not.. u have to work atleast littlebit with the soil. Nether u take a littlebit soil of ur own might not be relevant if the soil otherway is crappy... so instead u sould carry out something nutrient rich like kompost or manuvers and ash.. but first u should know the most possible ph level? Maby you could even carry some news paper too to do the brown cardboard in the video to deal with the alien weed problemos.

No dig garden way there is alot of work but could be worth while in quality for first point. Surely can be still done in some big quantaties and not loose the quality that could happend in other cases.. if u have crappy quality all could be done would be a nother full load of work turning it into a hash.

Great thread thanks

EDIT: was i offtopic.. whatever.

 

[exploziv]

Land mark to land mark. Start in one spot. Pick a landmark out, write it down, along with a direction and description. Walk there and plant seeds nearby. Then repeat the process till your done.

that's a great low-tech ideea, but be careful to visit your places quite often, because natural landmarks can change pretty much from one season to another.

 

[offthehook]

Quote Mr hank, Have you talked about nutrients already? How u gonna deliver phosphorus? Are you gonna go back couple times or more to fert or fert at once or not fer? Sorry im not sure if i read it all. I would love to hear more about ur tekniques amigos.

@Mr Hank. OTH > It's just something I like to do on a way that will cost me minimal effort or expenses.

I must have mentioned it before in some other topics, but now I will stress it again that I'm for 99.9% Breeder. One who takes breeding more serious as producing smokes as a matter of fact.

All my effort goes into producing seeds.> Lots of seeds that are beeing derived from mega big buds, grown on super good quality soil but far away in the bush. Hard work to say the least.
Too hard work to also give a rats ass about the estethics of my sensi crop.

So I will NOT fertilise or do anything that's not strictly necesary to get me more then just some sinsimilla fluff.

It should be about quantity and nothing else.


Quote Mr Hank > Getting enough good fenos cant take that mutch seeds? 50 Seeds per litre? So mutch work more and you could focus ur energy for examble to improve the soil. Maby I'm too high... anyways very interesting and Inspiring.

OTH > The way to deal with 40+ surplus individuals out of 50 seeds is called a "pair of scissors" and goes like naks naks naks naks naks..., lol hehe


Maybe I should elaborate on this a bit.

My breeding stock is provided with several cubic meters of VERY richly produced, home made soil.
I have been breeding this way for over a decade, and thus have I selected plants that can actually handle high amounts of N and are known to have no trouble with high ec levels.
Funny thing is that if you select your plants this way, you inherently will select plants that are capable of producing mega buds.
Lets say that out of 100 seeds on a high N / ec soil composition only 20 % survives and you continue to breed with these survivors year after year, Then in essence you create a strain that happens to LOVE lots of N and has become adapted to actually have purpose for all this N and hence will turn larger then all the non-survivors that already prematurely had to succomb. (If you were to grow them up under more mediocre circumstances that is.)

Ok, but now it also would be interesting to do the total opposite of this principle, meaning:

I would want to select for plants that happen to perform under the poorest of the poorest conditions, take the better ones and breed them again and again.

Eventually this should result in a variety that adapts to our Finnish forest floor, but without the need for their regular additional feed while still producing a reasonable size bud.

Might take a while but hey, Patience is my middle name.


PS. I watched the youtube link. Don't try to do it like that with cannabis though !
The green grass will be way too "hot", meaning that the substance to be turned into ammonium nitrate is still not fermented well enough to be usefull to your plants.
As a matter of fact it will be rather poisonous.

(The plants used on the cover are of a type that can handle a lot, but even then you can tell that there is something good wrong with them. either to dry or too "hot")

Cannabis has no way of knowing when to stop eating this material, so it will eat and eat from it untill it dies. ( leaf ends will shrivel untill the whole plant dries up on it's stalk.
This methode could actually work after having been for 1 year at room temperature or 2 years in outdoors (winter/frozen conditions)

 

[Animated]

offthehook:
Have to say that you really know what you are talking bout!

I did some breeding years back when Lowryder hype was on its peak point. Genetic based on Lowryder and some bulk Northernlight, got some pretty cool plants. Only goal at that time was only to archieve autoflowering plants with larger yield. It took some generations to obtain that.

At some point they were backcrossed and inbred, and crossed with Lr#2 and backrossed with F1 gen( if I remember it all) Nowadays this strain is crossed with some OvelaRatsastaja couple years ago and is performing pretty well in southern finland. Had some pictures in IC from 2005 and 2006 but can´t acces them cause of lost password, got to look em from my external harddrive if they happen to be still there.

I didnt have the guts to go large scale outdoor breeding so just had to try out different generations. Im really glad to know that some people have done some field type breeding in Finland!

 

[offthehook]

Made some nice progress indeed Animated. Thanks for recognising. Just one more year I guess' and will have enough seeds to make a whole lot of ppl happy in here. Free of charge ofc. All kinda work still in progress my friend.

This thread has become obsolete meanwhile BTW.
The forest workers have done such a great job that now it has become real easy for me to find all the spots back.