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How do FLIR scans go down?

jd4083

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They won't take me alive!


edit- well, they might, but I'll be pretty angry about it!
 

Space Toker

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death before led LOL. you can hide your signature with hid too. for way less than led. my friend successfully disguised 30k flower with like 3 attempts to find a signature from leo. led is still too expensive except for closet growers or those with unlimited budgets

ok don't tease me... how?
 

supermanlives

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sorry sworn to secrecy. i was amazed at their setup tho.ir is a scare tactic and can be beaten with some research and proper insulation,venting,cooling. it really aint that hard with smaller grows. but i had never seen 30 k stealth before. those guys were geniuses
 

Smokin Joe

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I have a friend that is high up in the National Guard. After I got busted I got to asking questions. Here's what told me how they do it in my state. The National Guard dose fly overs all over the state doing training missions. Marijuana shows up as a yellow color on the flair system. When they see that color they log the gps location and pass that along to the local leo's. This is how I got busted with 1 plant outdoors. Discovery states that the sheriff gave a list of locations to the dtf to fly over for a closer look. This is fact folks :shucks:
 

Strainhunter

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I have a friend that is high up in the National Guard. After I got busted I got to asking questions. Here's what told me how they do it in my state. The National Guard dose fly overs all over the state doing training missions. Marijuana shows up as a yellow color on the flair system. When they see that color they log the gps location and pass that along to the local leo's. This is how I got busted with 1 plant outdoors. Discovery states that the sheriff gave a list of locations to the dtf to fly over for a closer look. This is fact folks :shucks:


It would keep everyone pretty busy tossing around hand fulls of commercial hemp seeds
(cheap by the pound @ health food stores in Europe, they do world wide mail orders as well!) from an Ultralight all over that state.


Ultralight.jpg
 

ninfan77

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So let me get this straight.... FLIR is allowed to be deployed by the National Guard over private property? I know that LEO can't FLIR a house w/out a warrant, but what about the land around it? Outbuildings e.g. shed, barn, etc...?

And Gallahad, what state?
 

supermanlives

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anyone that thinks leo doesnt use flir without a warrant is a fool. they also arent supposed to lie and plant drugs. lol
 

GP73LPC

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anyone that thinks leo doesnt use flir without a warrant is a fool. they also arent supposed to lie and plant drugs. lol

they can lie to you. they do it all the time trying to get confessions...

but you are correct, anyone who believes they aren't FLIRing and planting drugs is a fool...
 

supermanlives

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well i know they lie and plant drugs. i just about proved it in court and won my case. this was like 9 years ago but cops dont change.
 

Smokin Joe

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they also steel. searched my truck (with out a warrant) took my keys and cell phone from my vehicle that was almost a mile from my property. then gave them to someone with out consent.
 

crazybear

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why not? someone is always home, and I can hear a chopper coming from a mile (sometimes miles) away. How else are they going to do it, with a scanner attached to a flying owl? ;) :D
I suppose they could do it from a parked car or small plane, which is why I wondered about that in my other thread. Again, I think most or all of what I observe are normal occurences, but I cannot be 100% sure. That these devices are so readily available is scary! I admit I wouldn't mind driving around seeing if certain people are giving off heat, but I would never reveal anything to anyone. But in the hands of a mothers group or other assorted prudes, who knows? Again, scary!

Because my brother the flir sensor is just mounted in or on the aircraft/ helicopter, the flir ball on the MC-130E drops out just aft of the nose wheel! All they got to do is power up fly over your place & your spotted, having a warrant, that might happen after the fact you never know, or trust the government that they won't f**k you:laughing: my mistake everybody trusts the government!:wave:
 

Space Toker

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I am not sure what point you are trying to make, but you would think if they have to have a warrant first, they would have to have suspicion first. I live like a hermit, no kidding, so that would be very hard to believe. If they do it without a warrant, you would think people would fight it and win, making it "unprofitable" for them to do illicit surveillance. Then the incentive would be to do it by the books and almost all of them would. So explain please!
 

crazybear

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I am not sure what point you are trying to make, but you would think if they have to have a warrant first, they would have to have suspicion first. I live like a hermit, no kidding, so that would be very hard to believe. If they do it without a warrant, you would think people would fight it and win, making it "unprofitable" for them to do illicit surveillance. Then the incentive would be to do it by the books and almost all of them would. So explain please!

I don't trust my government, the government has all the cards, you do not live like a hermit, because you are on the internet, real hermits live far off the grid!
You also probably order stuff if you grow, it doesn't take much action on the internet for big brother to have you on their radar, if you think otherwise , you should do more research!
If you think the government will not use a helicopter airplane or whatever, see a hot spot inform leo & you think the government will sit on there hands because they didn't obtain the information without a warrant you are clueless!
The government will make a case & then get the warrant after the fact, if it helps them to take down an evil threat to our countries security, yes that's right because you do illegal things you're a terrorist & everybody else that consumes & grows cannabis!!!!!
 

supermanlives

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I am not sure what point you are trying to make, but you would think if they have to have a warrant first, they would have to have suspicion first. I live like a hermit, no kidding, so that would be very hard to believe. If they do it without a warrant, you would think people would fight it and win, making it "unprofitable" for them to do illicit surveillance. Then the incentive would be to do it by the books and almost all of them would. So explain please!
heres probably how it could go. they are flying around bored after doing some flir work on some case. when done they fly with the flir on and just check random houses in their flight path. they find something suspicious. they take note of area gps ect and give their cop buddies a tip. the cops stake you out,pull your trash ect. if your game is tight it probably wont go further. and then theres always the anonymous tip which they themselves can place so its on record. do i really need to go on.
 

Space Toker

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I think I have little worry of that but yes please go on, any info is good info, and thanks
And crazybear, I see your point but also think you are just trying to use my own paranoia to push me over the edge so you don't have to hear me anymore or something, I am paranoid but not THAT paranoid. Yes they could do this that or the other but will they? Do even they have enough money and willpower an intelligence to do all that? My guess is no.
 

supermanlives

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the guys doing the flir think they are doing society a favor and get a rush busting growers. they dont mind bending rules. if they are already out there doing something else using that flir for a bit longer on the way back aint shit to them i would imagine. i dont worry as my flir signature is insignificant . so kiss my ass chopper guys fly over all you want
 

Smokin Joe

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The national guard has no business doing the dirty work for the local leo's any way. And what the fuck is the game and fish doing involved in local law enforcement. We buy hunting and fishing license to pay their salary's. They don't get a dime from the sheriff department but every time the cops raid someone with out a warrant the wild life officers are there. The game and fish can come in your house or vehicle with out a warrant for a game violation. But with no indication of a violation why are they even there? I know I know it's so the scum bag cops can follow them in and see what they can get ya for and then call for a WARRANT. JUST PISSES ME OFF :mad:

KEY WORDS: MORE VARIED THEN EVER BEFORE. Who changed the duties of the g & f and why?

Duties of a Wildlife Officer
The duties of a wildlife officer are more varied
than ever before. Their primary responsibility
is to patrol their assigned county enforcing
AGFC Regulations and Boating Laws
while establishing and maintaining good
relationships with the general public and in
the communities they serve. Wildlife Officers
are “State” law enforcement officers that
are also required to enforce local, state, and
federal laws as well.
Wildlife Officers present programs to schools,
4-H, Boy Scouts and other youth groups as
well as civic clubs and other organizations.
They teach Hunter and Boater Education
classes, give radio and television interviews,
answer nuisance animal complaints, assist
other law enforcement agencies, assist with
fish and wildlife management programs and
perform many other duties.
A wildlife officer is called upon to work any
hour, day or night and must work weekends
and holidays. Regular days off are scheduled
on weekdays. It is a full-time job, requiring
the highest standard of personal and
professional conduct
 

AGBeer

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I don't trust my government, the government has all the cards, you do not live like a hermit, because you are on the internet, real hermits live far off the grid!
You also probably order stuff if you grow, it doesn't take much action on the internet for big brother to have you on their radar, if you think otherwise , you should do more research!
If you think the government will not use a helicopter airplane or whatever, see a hot spot inform leo & you think the government will sit on there hands because they didn't obtain the information without a warrant you are clueless!
The government will make a case & then get the warrant after the fact, if it helps them to take down an evil threat to our countries security, yes that's right because you do illegal things you're a terrorist & everybody else that consumes & grows cannabis!!!!!

I can sum this up in 2 simple words.

Patriot Act
 
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