How do FLIR scans go down?

[Space Toker]

There must be a normal pattern of behavior for flir-scanning aircraft, and a way to tell if such aircraft think they are sensing something or if they are just going from point A to point B. So what are these patterns? I am sure some have experience with this and could shed some valuable info to the rest of us. Any positive feedback would be helpful to many.

Such as:

Would they circle or hover or just do a straight-line flyby?
Would they usually do multiple flybys all at once or could they just do a straight line flyby every few days?

Would they tend to or do they have to point it directly at you to be effective or can it be on the opposite side of the chopper from the one facing you?

Would they have to fly low and slow and directly over? Or if not, how far can they effectively scan you from?

 

[Weird]

LEO needs a warrant to use flir on private residence for admissible evidence

 

[Zen Master]

LEO aircraft equipped with FLIR would fly with it on 100% of the time at night, at least I think so.

yeah they need a warrant to 'legally' FLIR your house but when they are just going from A to B and a growhouse is lighting up like a christmas tree, then they search through trash, knock n talk, check power bills and other 'legal' routes etc to get a legal warrant. You would have no idea you're being FLIR'd.

if you're being FLIR'd you fucked up in safety protocol.

 

[h^2 O]

more reason to shoot bottle rockets at passing aircraft

 

[Space Toker]

Interesting photos ZenMaster! I don't think I am being scanned, just want to confirm that I am not. Based on the behavior I stated, I think I have little to worry about. peace

 

[Strainhunter]

HOW they do it doesn't matter because by then you're pretty much done anyways.

One thing you could do is buy yourself a hand held FLIR allowing you to narrow down potential heat loss problem zones and see them before someone else does.

Cost of those hand held ones?

Starting @ $1,200 bucks and 2k for a high res large screen unit.

Cheap insurance!


http://www.flir.com/thermography/APAC/au/content/?id=13980

 

[ChaosCatalunya]

Scumbag rippers are already using these in the UK, has been going on for 5 years at least.

Get your hands on one, check your place is safe, before someone else does.....


In the UK, you are now more likely to get rippers kicking your door in than Police, from what I hear.

 

[Space Toker]

I don't think I am being Flirred, just want confirmation of that by knowing their established patterns. There is really no reason they should suspect anything.

 

[supermanlives]

you will never know your being scanned

 

[Choc]

Scumbag rippers are already using these in the UK, has been going on for 5 years at least.

Get your hands on one, check your place is safe, before someone else does.....


In the UK, you are now more likely to get rippers kicking your door in than Police, from what I hear.

100%

 

[Space Toker]

you will never know your being scanned

why not? someone is always home, and I can hear a chopper coming from a mile (sometimes miles) away. How else are they going to do it, with a scanner attached to a flying owl?
I suppose they could do it from a parked car or small plane, which is why I wondered about that in my other thread. Again, I think most or all of what I observe are normal occurences, but I cannot be 100% sure. That these devices are so readily available is scary! I admit I wouldn't mind driving around seeing if certain people are giving off heat, but I would never reveal anything to anyone. But in the hands of a mothers group or other assorted prudes, who knows? Again, scary!

 

[SOTF420]

A FLIR scan by itself showing heat in a room is not enough evidence by itself for probable cause for a search warrant. They would further investigate you though if your house is glowing at night.

Everyone I know runs lights during the day when they have their AC units running and then everything is off at night. That seems to be a good way of managing heat with HID grows but ultimately the answer to avoiding detection is using LED lighting that lacks IR which is what heats up your room and is absorbed by the walls and such. If you do have HID lights running in a room without proper insulation you need to buy yourself a large grow tent to enclose everything in with IR blocking material such as a Growlab tent and this will greatly reduce your FLIR detectability as you will be creating a "room within a room" so no IR light is hitting any interior walls and just make sure the layer of air surrounding that large tent is close to the same temps as the rest of the house and you won't have any issues with FLIR seeing anything.

 

[Choc]

Word!

 

[Strainhunter]

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I noticed there is a widely spread misconception regarding the use of FLIR:


FLIR is not a primary detection source (in the US), it is one of the tools used for evidence purposes.

FLIR is only being used legally (in the US) once a grower already is flying above the radar.

The above means LE already has you by the balls once FLIR has gotten in to play.
If they won't succeed with FLIR they will poke around with a whole barrage of other methods for as long as they need to find what they are looking for as long as it is there.

It doesn't matter what kind of lights one uses, whether one steals the power or pays his bill.

Once one has been ratted on (main source of info for LE besides stealing power) LE WILL FIND OUT whether the suspect is growing or not, FLIR is just ONE of the many available tools.

 

[supermanlives]

i know a few peeps that got scanned. they never knew it was happening. not one single one of em. my one friend got scanned 3 times. cops kept thinking the rat told them the wrong house as they couldnt find any strange signatures. and that guy had 30k flower. absolutely the best hidden setup i have ever seen. he got busted anyhow and the reason i know he got scanned 3 times cause it was all in the discovery process his lawyer got. they also had gps on his rides

 

[Space Toker]

I thought I heard somewhere they could do FLIR doing the day too. I don't know on that one. Interesting supermanlives, thanks. I think all my questions are answered and finally I am at peace. thanks again

 

[Zen Master]

I thought I heard somewhere they could do FLIR doing the day too. I don't know on that one. Interesting supermanlives, thanks. I think all my questions are answered and finally I am at peace. thanks again

they absolutely can, its just infra red technology is all, it "sees" heat.

much harder to 'see' anything when its 80 degrees out though versus a 55 degree night.

Things of the same temp can blend together, however some LEO flir technology is amazing and you can see a trail behind a runaway car's tires at night due to the heat transfer from tire to road, even if it only lasts for a microsecond

 

[supermanlives]

i saw one episode where their technology showed a gun that was just dropped glowing like a candle. and the cops got it

 

[GP73LPC]

but ultimately the answer to avoiding detection is using LED lighting that lacks IR which is what heats up your room and is absorbed by the walls and such.

this ^^^

 

[supermanlives]

death before led LOL. you can hide your signature with hid too. for way less than led. my friend successfully disguised 30k flower with like 3 attempts to find a signature from leo. led is still too expensive except for closet growers or those with unlimited budgets