Thank you!! Already looking forward to next grow. I really enjoy the whole process, and not even so much for the harvest (although I do love that part too!) - I just really like growing things for some reason. Unfortunate this has to be such a secretive and clandestine hobby for me...
Honduras x Panama Problem?
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So yesterday morning was water day; plain Deer Park pH'd down to 7.0, three liters each plant. Short version is I think my previous feeding with the extra fish emulsion and cal nitrate helped the HxP - thanks all! While I still had to remove some yellow leaves, there seemed to be fewer than before and she overall just looked a little greener and healthier.
However, when I measured the runoff, EC was craaaazy high - 4.2! I triple checked and the input EC was 0.4. So I'm not sure what that could indicate? What's funny is I thought everything was going great during my visual inspection, and then I measure the runoff and it's crazy high. So my plan is to continue to give plain water Wed morning and collect/test runoff from every plant.
Welcome any ideas as to what might be causing that high EC. At any rate, I'll be monitoring and adjusting my nutrient schedule accordingly. Like I said, funny thing is I feel like the HxP definitely looks better after that heavy feeding...
However, when I measured the runoff, EC was craaaazy high - 4.2! I triple checked and the input EC was 0.4. So I'm not sure what that could indicate? What's funny is I thought everything was going great during my visual inspection, and then I measure the runoff and it's crazy high. So my plan is to continue to give plain water Wed morning and collect/test runoff from every plant.
Welcome any ideas as to what might be causing that high EC. At any rate, I'll be monitoring and adjusting my nutrient schedule accordingly. Like I said, funny thing is I feel like the HxP definitely looks better after that heavy feeding...
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That's what I thought the whole time. Gradual buildup turns soil too rich, unused nutrients then create a situation where they become unusable, locked out. Flush with water to bring that ec down then resume with a less concentrated feed.
The ec meter just paid for itself by sending you in the right direction. Good Move!
The ec meter just paid for itself by sending you in the right direction. Good Move!
Just wanted to give an update and also for anyone that stumbles across this thread in the future having similar issues - I know a lot of my research involves coming across threads that bear similarities to your own problems, but then things die out before the end, leaving you with more questions than answers! So hopefully I can see this through to the end and help out future growers.
The long story short is I've been alternating waterings every three days between nute mix and plain. Just this past plain I added 1T of unsulphured molasses to each gallon, as I was reading up on the benefits for microbial life and (possibly) flower size/density. I'll continue adding that during the plain waterings unless I see evidence it's causing harm.
I've been measuring EVERYTHING. Religiously. Runoff is now down to essentially input levels, both with EC and pH. I've been adding 3-4 granules of Cal Nitrate to two of the liter waterings for the HxP and it seems to help stave off leaf loss in between. I'm still having a little yellowing and lose maybe 3-4 leaves every few days, but it's from the lower regions and hasn't really progressed upward much. It seems a manageable rate, and I'll continue to supplement with minor Cal Nitrate feedings for that girl only.
I did have a minor outbreak of fungus gnats I'm controlling with yellow sticky traps for now. I have BT on hand but am avoiding using it unless necessary - not sure if it kills beneficial life too? I believe the gnats started with the Violeta girl, who is much smaller than the rest. After a few of the comments on here lead me to believe I was underwatering, I increased to three liters per watering per plant, and I think that was more than she needed and she remained a little too wet between waterings. I've since backed off for her in particular and everyone else a little bit too. I believe with my temps and RH hovering right around 75-77 and 40-50% respectively, I'm not drying out too bad even with only 2-2.5 liters per watering.
Otherwise, things are looking GREAT. I'm really trying to just get a sense for reading the plants, and not running to the internet for every little issue. While that certainly helps in most situations, I feel like in some it causes too much overanalysis and fixing nonexistent issues that only exacerbate actual issues and potentially cause more. I'm trying to not "overlove" them.
A few random smattering of pics to show progress - the colors on the Violeta are OUT.OF.THIS.WORLD.
The long story short is I've been alternating waterings every three days between nute mix and plain. Just this past plain I added 1T of unsulphured molasses to each gallon, as I was reading up on the benefits for microbial life and (possibly) flower size/density. I'll continue adding that during the plain waterings unless I see evidence it's causing harm.
I've been measuring EVERYTHING. Religiously. Runoff is now down to essentially input levels, both with EC and pH. I've been adding 3-4 granules of Cal Nitrate to two of the liter waterings for the HxP and it seems to help stave off leaf loss in between. I'm still having a little yellowing and lose maybe 3-4 leaves every few days, but it's from the lower regions and hasn't really progressed upward much. It seems a manageable rate, and I'll continue to supplement with minor Cal Nitrate feedings for that girl only.
I did have a minor outbreak of fungus gnats I'm controlling with yellow sticky traps for now. I have BT on hand but am avoiding using it unless necessary - not sure if it kills beneficial life too? I believe the gnats started with the Violeta girl, who is much smaller than the rest. After a few of the comments on here lead me to believe I was underwatering, I increased to three liters per watering per plant, and I think that was more than she needed and she remained a little too wet between waterings. I've since backed off for her in particular and everyone else a little bit too. I believe with my temps and RH hovering right around 75-77 and 40-50% respectively, I'm not drying out too bad even with only 2-2.5 liters per watering.
Otherwise, things are looking GREAT. I'm really trying to just get a sense for reading the plants, and not running to the internet for every little issue. While that certainly helps in most situations, I feel like in some it causes too much overanalysis and fixing nonexistent issues that only exacerbate actual issues and potentially cause more. I'm trying to not "overlove" them.
A few random smattering of pics to show progress - the colors on the Violeta are OUT.OF.THIS.WORLD.
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Very Happy to see things are fixed. What you've shared will be helpful to others who encounter the same issues. As you point out it comes up all the time.
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Your plants look good to me afman
