Lebanizer
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You got me worried. If I squeezez one those "brownish" calyxes this is what I get : well formed seeds. Are you sure that's mold ?
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Honduras sativa
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RobFromTX
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Were you trying to make seeds or was this a hermie?
Lebanizer
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No, no definitely not a hermie. She was incidently seeded by a male that was part of a (other strain) repro going at the same time. That's what happens when you have way too many projects going on at the same time
. I can't help it !
Lebanizer
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Well I've done a bit of a lookup and I think @goingrey is right ! This looks like mold . the good news is as I'm handling her to get rid of this, the aroma is turning pure flowery delight. I wouldn't want to lose that. Thinking about how I could get mold, I think it probably has to do with poor air flow and too stale air. Also she's quite leafy so all those leaves must contribute to creating quite some evaporation. I'm scutinizing the bud with a magnifier to get rid of the crap.
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I don't know what to think. The more I handle those yellow/brown calyxes, the more healthy seeds are popping out.
. the good news is as I'm handling her to get rid of this, the aroma is turning pure flowery delight. I wouldn't want to lose that. Thinking about how I could get mold, I think it probably has to do with poor air flow and too stale air. Also she's quite leafy so all those leaves must contribute to creating quite some evaporation. I'm scutinizing the bud with a magnifier to get rid of the crap.PS:
I don't know what to think. The more I handle those yellow/brown calyxes, the more healthy seeds are popping out.
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Lebanizer
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Seeds are popping !
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I think I'm dealing with both some bud rot on calyxes and calyxes where seeds are actually popping.
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I'm also realizing this strain has super dense flowers ! I would've expected a tropical strain to be more wispy but no, it's kinda chunky really !
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I think I'm dealing with both some bud rot on calyxes and calyxes where seeds are actually popping.
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I'm also realizing this strain has super dense flowers ! I would've expected a tropical strain to be more wispy but no, it's kinda chunky really !
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goingrey
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Senescence would be brownish yellow "autumn colors" in very late flowering. Such pale leaves as on the first photo at what looks like mid-flower mean the plant is dying prematurely due to environmental issues. Or already dead, it's hard to pinpoint exactly but she just looks like she has given up the ghost.
What on the other hand is living is the grey and brown fuzz on the second photo, botrytis. Even in a dry environment sick plants will have trouble fighting it, especially so if dead plant matter is not removed.
I'm glad you have taken the feedback gracefully, I was on the fence about posting it but ultimately did because I genuinely believe you can do so much better, and of course we don't want anyone smoking mold.
Lebanizer
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OK so you mean the very light/white leaf color. Yeah I knew she had deficiency and I wondered about feeding her again but then I had the confirmation that I had to be away for an extended period of time so I wasn't going to be able to take care of her til completion so I figured what the heck, I'll let go with whatever left she still has and I'll be done with it. Mind you I had that problem earlier on which was remedied by a liquid feed. Her overall lime/lighter colored foliage was also tricky to deal with for me, as I was used to a darker color and I was never sure if that was her healthy color or the first signs of deficiency and was worried about burning her.
Gross
But it makes sense that an underfed plant would be prone to sickness.
Oh don't worry I'm quite aware I'm not the best indoor grower, I don't hold any illusion of grandeur about my skills so I welcome feedback wholeheartedly. I used to be more serious about indoor growing when I started but I completely gave it up when I switched to outdoor/on balconey. Since I'm getting more and more into tropical plants (and they just can't finish at my lattitude) I think I can't escape the fact that I'll need to come up with a more serious indoor setup. And thanks for caring about my lungs, highly appreciated
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@Lebanizer
What are you using for feed indoors?
This bat guano makes up the largest portion of my feeding program these days. I mix it in at time of planting, plus top dress with, and I do have some bio bizz fish and bloom i use as well to try and help keep it green longer.
Epsom salt and lime are my other essentials, especially lime if you are using a heavy peat base mix.
I'm on the 3rd year of my soil mix, so i have these other things for deficiencies. Id recommend getting micro nutrients if you reuse the same mix. You'll be chasing things all over the place trying to determine the issue, and it could be as simple as micros
What are you using for feed indoors?
This bat guano makes up the largest portion of my feeding program these days. I mix it in at time of planting, plus top dress with, and I do have some bio bizz fish and bloom i use as well to try and help keep it green longer.
Epsom salt and lime are my other essentials, especially lime if you are using a heavy peat base mix.
I'm on the 3rd year of my soil mix, so i have these other things for deficiencies. Id recommend getting micro nutrients if you reuse the same mix. You'll be chasing things all over the place trying to determine the issue, and it could be as simple as micros
Lebanizer
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@Keif Cake
I just use a liquid Universal feed from Compo Sana (NPK 6.6.6). But I will take notice of your recommendations for my future tropical grows (lots of those coming up because of my seeds collection). Thanks a lot !
I just use a liquid Universal feed from Compo Sana (NPK 6.6.6). But I will take notice of your recommendations for my future tropical grows (lots of those coming up because of my seeds collection). Thanks a lot
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A good thing about mistakes and failures is the opportunity to learn from them, and from the good advice of others.
EnjoyingLife
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A third of the price is great for sure. I live in SoCal so low humidity most of the year though this year is a bit odd with cool weather lasting longer and quite a bit more rain than normal.
I really need to find a way to dry my flowers better and terp preservation is key also!
Thanks for taking the time to post this.
Congrats on the harvest of your second Honduran
what a harvest, Honduras is a prolific sativa hehehe This one looks really promising, hope you took clones! She is very resinous and sounds terpy as well by your description, and more refined in terpenes than average P1 green phenos we have to go through when selecting the best ones to produce this P2 release you are all still growing. Love the way you grow your indoor pure sativa flowers @Keif Cake
well done!PD: Happy to hear you have been impressed with your initial smoke test with the Golden Tiger x Panama
looking back at your pictures, yours was a really wild expression.
How did she finished ? Looks quite ripe in this April's pic
Sorry for chime in a bit late on this @RobFromTX ... i think i commented about it in other thread if memory serves me well. So the seedlings can grow upright, with a robust vigorous growth from the start, it's important to provide enough light intensity and constant air flow, just to produce a gentle move on them, so they produce strong stems that later will be able to support properly the plant. Pure sativas of lanky growth are usually a bit more demanding in this regard.
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The green Honduras Haze was a lovely pure Central American sativa limited edition, especially dedicated to lovers of the most pristine clear, energetic effects, unfortunately is currently sold out and discontinued.
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It's nice to see others growing the Honduras from Ace. This is one of my all time favorites. I haven't grown them in a couple of years, so I soaked 10 in water overnight and put them in soil yesterday morning. Several coming up.
These are P3 for me, not sure what they were when I got them from Dubi but they're the green Mexican pheno.
Perfect smoke with morning coffee. Mental caffeine, very clear and introspective. Great for planning and scheduling the day, getting chores done. She has legs-around 5 hours before returning to baseline. No sedation on comedown. No ceiling and second and third joint as potent as the first. It cuts through tolerance nicely. I remember the high as coming on so subtly, then taking off soaring.
What's there not to like about it
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It makes me immensely happy to see you posting again on ICMag and in this room friend
I miss you @SolarLogos and i'm sure others too!Love also the accurate description you wrote about the Honduras line you are so well familiarized with, both in pure form and hybrids. Means a lot to me she has become one of your favorite sativa lines to work with! All the best for this outdoor season!
Correct @mr.pistil the flowering process was slowed down by the wrong ph, and once the ph and feeding were fixed to correct ranges the flowers bounced back vigorously, producing new reflowerings that are yet to finish. How is your Honduran doing lately ?
I took her down eventually because I won't be able to take care of her for the next weeks. I would have wanted her to be into full senescence. She seems quite ripe however, eventhough I was nowhere near the 14 weeks of flowering as indicated on the strain sheet, but then I did use a 10/14 light schedule, so maybe that sped things up somewhat, what do you think ? A lot of leaves were pale green, white or yellow and some seeds have popped already. Some chunky calyxes looked like they started to degrade, probably to release the seeds. I was at 11 weeks since the flip and 7 weeks since sexing occured, it doesn't sound near enough but we'll see. Much of the hair has turned brown though.
When alive she was all lemoney grilled meat. Since I cut her, when I stick my nose on her, all I'm getting is a lovely flowery aroma. But then she's sort of diffusing faint whiffs of musty grilled meat in a continuous and subdued manner that is kind of enchanting. It's a bit like in those old Tex Avery cartoons when you see a smell that has hands and it drags a character by his nose to follow it, the character is kind of floating in the air following the smell.It's kind of like that. I love it. Definitely a cannabis smell but no funk
A bit of a bitch to trim as she's very leafy but oncedone she looks nice. By the way I can still feel the weight of the top flower clusters when I hold her from the bottom of the stem. I feel like a gourmet who knows he's in for a forthcoming feast !
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A two euros coin for reference next to it.
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congrats on your Honduran harvest @Lebanizer !When producing seeds, if seeds are already well ripen, the bracts containing the seeds will start to fade until die, this can bring necrosis and then budrot, so inspect your seeds frequently during ripening and harvest them once they are done. Excessive seed ripening is usually not good, some genetics can easily germinate the seeds inside the buds under wet conditions during flowering.
Very much impressed by GT Panama, it and the cross i made with HBXTK x Honduras is the only thing ive been smoking on for the last couple of weeks.Congrats on the harvest of your second Honduran
Love the way you grow your indoor pure sativa flowers @Keif Cake
PD: Happy to hear you have been impressed with your initial smoke test with the Golden Tiger x Panama
I opened the dry box last night, kind of confused by the smell and had to remember what was recently harvested, the fuel smell that i got in from the HonPan is what i was picking up last night in straight Honduras, interested to see how it develops further in the cure.
As always, i appreciate the comments and encouraging words.
RobFromTX
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Thanks for the advice dubi. I actually had to kill them off because i found out that we have to move at the end of august. They're long flowering and i didn't want to risk not being able to finish them. So im growing out some Zacs instead until the move. I also think the one gallon grow pots threw off their growing abilities, i wont be doing that again. No worries though. Ive already bought more honduras beans and plan to run them later in the year with some of your chang mai thai. Great to hear from you againSorry for chime in a bit late on this @RobFromTX ... i think i commented about it in other thread if memory serves me well. So the seedlings can grow upright, with a robust vigorous growth from the start, it's important to provide enough light intensity and constant air flow, just to produce a gentle move on them, so they produce strong stems that later will be able to support properly the plant. Pure sativas of lanky growth are usually a bit more demanding in this regard.
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