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junit

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It noticed a few bottom leaves doing this and i just thought i t was because they didnt get any light... so the plant naturally let them die... but I soon found a couple of days later....(to my suprise) Its travelling up like the crazy... now touching some leaves that recieve enough light...Its a light Browning then eventually Death to the Leaf... its kinda of happening quick... Please help...

My Guess would be Mag?... The only thing i have not given them.



 
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mean mr.mustard

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What is your pH range (before and after feeding)? I would think it could be a few things but maybe file them down with a little nute and medium info....
 
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Yeep , looks like extreme Magnesium def. Start crammin' some epsom salts into her . You can apply to roots or foliar . I'd go 1 teaspoon per gal. and if not in flowering give her a foliar shot ( go easy )
 
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junit

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Ok Guys... I went with my gut while i was out and looked for eposm Salts.... and not one place had it.... I did pick up this lime Mix which seemed to have the most Magnesium in it but it had many other things...Think this could work for now?


The plant its 30 days into flowering and the top of her looks fantastic better than her sisters even..... now this....I have them in Miracle Grow Organic choicee 10-5-10.... 2 weeks into flowering i gave each a dose of bone meal and mixed it into the top of the soil. other than that... I have not added anything.. i have only watered with Distilled water... and i have applied Neems oil to help fight Gnats.... but that is all...I have no checked PH before or after feeding..
 

Sleepy

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oh shit is right!!

oh shit is right!!

junit said:
... I have not added anything.. i have only watered with Distilled water... and i have applied Neems oil to help fight Gnats.... but that is all...I have no checked PH before or after feeding..


you need the micro nutrients...the plant has consumed all that were in your soil by now. can you get some cal-mag?

you need to do something QUICK!

also check your pH!! if the pH is out of whack, no amount of additives will help until it is back in range. i would address the pH problem FIRST! another week, and that plant is gone...
 

junit

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Well from Reading this lime.... It looks just that... A shot of Cal/Mag?
20% Cal 10% Mag
 

Sleepy

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i am sorry, junit...i don't know how to apply what you have. :badday:

can anyone help junit before the plant dies???

please!!
 

junit

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Its Garden Lime... If i follow the instructions ill be checking the PH and Applying according to PH...

They wake up soon... Ill start working on her and keep yall posted
 
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sunnyside

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Mag seems to be the quick answer...but not always the right solution.

Mag seems to be the quick answer...but not always the right solution.

if you have lime in front of you...go by the directions on the bag...however

junit said:

doesn't look like mag deficiency to me...looks like they went through a dry spell.
 

junit

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That did cross my mind... I have been letting them go an Extra day without water and all of the strains dont seem to mind... now this one... but i would think the top leaves would be wilting as well...... Although it is possible knowing me... I was Stoned one night i was watering and missed this plant thinking i already did it...(It is positioned further back where its a bear to get at it without moving the other mosters)Either way... Both Issues have been worked out.... lets see if the solutions fit the problem...

Ive also noticed it starting on some others ... ( I think)..... It seems to be only affecting the strains that have AK-47 in them... Is AK Needy on nutes? Then Again Maybe It is under watering......
 
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If it was already mentioned I'm sorry, but I bet it is not just the older leafs on the bottom is it, even new growth on the bottom is doing the same thing if I had to geuss. I ran through a few plants that did the same thing, I never really did figure it out tho. I'm curious of the solution in case it happens again. You have to examine everything you do, are you trying new things this grow, even the most suttle can make a difference sometimes. Mj growers tend to like to play around with new things all the time rather than find a solution that works and stick with it. I am very guilty of doing that. Anyway sorry for tha rant, Hope it all works out.

Mo,
 

junit

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Ive only grown a few Bubblegum plants indoors and this i would have to say is my first CROP..... having Experience with bubblegum made things a little easy. You have to really fuck with them to get them to look like this.... This strain is a mix of peak 19, ak-47 and Metal Haze. As i said before a few leaves on the bottom of some plants have started to do something like this, aswell as one or two on the Ak-99 that i have.

I have added (lightly) the lime in hopes that alone will do it but im also not going to skip a day on watering anymore...... Plus I am very conservative when i water (At least i think I am) So it could just be from Drought.
 

toofat

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Hey junit, my plants look just like that when they need water. As they get bigger their demand for water increases. Also the AK99's that I have won't tolerate a lot of nutes. :wave:
 

nobodyknew

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I don't grow in soil but what I have seen here and on other boards is that Miracle-Gro soil mix sucks ass...............
And your pics look just like the pics they all posted - mostly the plants died...
I'd get on that PH straight away - before I added anything - and maybe a transplant into a better soil mix...?
 
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Jenna

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It doesn't look like a mg def to me either.. My mg def have always had necrosis. What kind of nutes are you using? almost looks like a n def to me. Check for yourself at overgrow in the plant trouble grow faq under Nutrient Profiles and Deficiencies by Mr. HIGHway. He has some descriptions that might help you. I refer to it all the time.

By the way, you should be able to get epsom salts at a drugstore.

Just my :2cents:

LOL.. of course you could look in the sticky at the top of this forum. The Complete guide to Sick Plants,pH, and Pest troubles! How come I never saw that before?
 
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Purpleseed

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I think sleepy is absolutely right!
The plants are suffering for different reasons.
The first leaf not sure if it's MG defiency,and the second is N.Combined with underwater.
It's true that the first one does'nt look much like a 'regular'mg defiency but it does look a little like in this pic.Scroll down to mg defiency(second pic.)
http://www.overgrow.com/growfaq/1382
Either way,you are having more than one symptom at the same time.The only thing else to me would be PH.If it's ok,then it's macro I pretty sure.
Distilled water has absolutely no macros.I use Reverse osmosis water for my aerogrow and if I don't put Cal-Mag in there I get a line-up of defiency:Mg,iron,N,...name it!All at the same time!
The quickest solution would be to spray them with Cal-Mag.Epsom salt would only be good for Mg.I strongly suggest Cal-Mag to get ALL you need.
 
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nobodyknew

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So Junit- enough time has passed by now...
What happened - did they live or die..?
And what did you do to try to save them...?
 
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G

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Holy smokes man .. why is it that everytime something happens to a cannabis plant , grower's automatically think that it's a mag problem

Mag def or problems , have the least chance of happening , out of all the sickness's ...

your plant is either over watered or under watered man ...and you may just be an another Miracle Grow victim .. ask master Soma what he think's about Miracle Grow

peace
 

junit

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THey Live!... Very Handsomely..... I added the Cal-mag dose to each othe them and upped the watering levels.... Its a little hard with my pots... they tend ti fill up with water to easliy and drain.... it goes everywhere now... so i have to give each of the plants an indivdual tray.... Not fun every two days with my back lifting them up out of the pots and dumping the water. they also tend to hit the ceiling when i do that... oye

All are fine... they are still doing it... just alot slower.... to me it just seems like most of them are leaves that do not get enough light so they die off... I also gave them som Bone meal for that little bit of N, ..and the shot of P..... they are maturing a little slower than i thought so they will most likely be pulled down a week late than expected.

thank you for all your help...

this is the top of the plant you seen in pic 2... otheri s obviously the bottom.


10-5-10... I honesltly think maybe i mixed it to weak.????..... i didnt add much of anything to it...someone having told me to be carefull with Haze... but now the breeder has told me to feed her pretty well and she responses the same.
 
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