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Highest Yield Thread
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Pineydoobey
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Thanks for repeating what I said about 2 posts after he made his far-fetched claim............
If you guys don't just get off this topic then the thread will be flooded with nonsense forever...
Just drop it please.
I love Jack Herer!!!! I got some from my dads friend, really cool old hippy dude. Tasted absolutely fa nominal. I didn't realize it was such a high yielder. It was one of the top ten strains in High Times a few years back.
Thanks for stoppin by
-Pine
hi Pineydoobey, true a scrog is useful for low penetration lights, but a good scrog should not be regarded as a flat plate of buds, but rather a box full of colas. with my 250 the height of that box is about 6" but with a bigger light that box could be 1ft or more tall. to scale up i would go for 4 or maybe 9 modules/pots under each light. use BIG pots. i use 1 gallon of soil for each 20w of light (4x4gallon under my 250). couldnt tell you about dwc as organic soil is my thing. i personally dont buy that hydro gives bigger yields, but whatever method you choose should be the one that you feel most comfortable with and that you believe is best for you.
good luck
VG.
superultramega
Member
You would likely notice the difference if you used more light. In side by side comparisons it isn't even close. Seriously.
You dirt guys are fine by me but there is a big difference is speed of growth. This obviously leads to bigger yields as flowering times remain the same.
thats what people say but i have yet to see a hydro grow on here that outyields my organic grows. i have seen them just about match mine but they were using co2 which i dont.
if i have missed any then please post the pics or links
tbh yield isnt my biggest criteria anyway - i just grow for personal smoke, but if i am going to use lights to grow weed then i want to be as efficient as possible.
VG.
if i have missed any then please post the pics or links
tbh yield isnt my biggest criteria anyway - i just grow for personal smoke, but if i am going to use lights to grow weed then i want to be as efficient as possible.
VG.
Great thread 
my bigger yielers are a cut i have from Power Plant
here a pic of one of the buds
the cut/cloons put direct on 12/12light
9weeks total under 600 ww
15 plants under one lamp les that one meter in organic soil.
harvest whas 1gram a watt?
hoop you guy's understand my bad english
my bigger yielers are a cut i have from Power Plant
here a pic of one of the buds
the cut/cloons put direct on 12/12light
9weeks total under 600 ww
15 plants under one lamp les that one meter in organic soil.
harvest whas 1gram a watt?
hoop you guy's understand my bad english
superultramega
Member
Could be a difference in strains or guys that just don't optimize their system.thats what people say but i have yet to see a hydro grow on here that outyields my organic grows. i have seen them just about match mine but they were using co2 which i dont.
if i have missed any then please post the pics or links
tbh yield isnt my biggest criteria anyway - i just grow for personal smoke, but if i am going to use lights to grow weed then i want to be as efficient as possible.
VG.
I will agree that a well run soil grow will outperform a poorly run hydro grow.
I did actually do a side by side comparison once. A guy I knew was running an identical setup except in dirt. Same strain (same clones in fact) and we compared the grows. The hydro yielded about 30% more. He never used dirt again. It was very obvious from the start the hydro plants were growing much, much faster. You can clearly see daily growth in veg and early flower.
I also like the ease of hydro when you have it dialed in. With re-using hydroton I have one bag of trash for 2kw.
double post
hi again
i have heard similar stories from good organic growers who say that the hydro guys have given up hydro for organic soil after seeing how well it can do.
not all 'dirt' is created or made equal, and im sure it's the same with hydro, except that i would imagine organic soil has many more variables. the main thing as i said above is that you truly believe that your method is best and that you are happy with the results.
but like i say, i havent seen a hydro grow on IC do better than mine in gpw efficiency, the only vaguely high yielding commercial strain i grow is Dr atomic NL and my best with that is 1.6 gpw, and if you can find anyone who has got more that 1.4 gpw with UK cheese clone then i would like to see it too
VG.
For me, high density SOG is the best way to get high gpw numbers. I love verdant's modular SCROG and have seen it done before on a larger scale, 9 plants on a square metre, each plant filling a 30x30cm screen. SCROG is simply impractical for larger commercial grows. Sure, one guy with 6 lights can manage a SCROG, but more lights and space than hat and you wouldn't be able to keep up with the tucking and tying, SCROG is the ultimate in high intensity growing so is suited to smaller spaces.
High density SOG can pretty much match SCROG for yield and has the added benefit of needing no veg time. The way to do a high density SOG is to take your cuttings as soon as they are rooted and plant them out, I prefer small 10cm square 1.5 litre pots of coco. I put 81 (9x9) or 100 (10x10) on a square metre and grow the plants single cola, pruning off any branches. With 100 plants on a metre, you only need each budstick to weigh 6g dry and you have your 1gpw figure (given one 600w light per metre). However, there are many strains that will produce way more than 6g grown in this style, 10g per plant is a kilo per light and that is very possible with many strains.
High density SOG can pretty much match SCROG for yield and has the added benefit of needing no veg time. The way to do a high density SOG is to take your cuttings as soon as they are rooted and plant them out, I prefer small 10cm square 1.5 litre pots of coco. I put 81 (9x9) or 100 (10x10) on a square metre and grow the plants single cola, pruning off any branches. With 100 plants on a metre, you only need each budstick to weigh 6g dry and you have your 1gpw figure (given one 600w light per metre). However, there are many strains that will produce way more than 6g grown in this style, 10g per plant is a kilo per light and that is very possible with many strains.
superultramega
Member
Hard to argue with those results.the only vaguely high yielding commercial strain i grow is Dr atomic NL and my best with that is 1.6 gpw, and if you can find anyone who has got more that 1.4 gpw with UK cheese clone then i would like to see it too
VG.
I also like building the systems. I'm an engineer so designing and building hydro systems is fun for me.
I tend to think hydro is easier for people to achieve good results. But many are intimidated by it before they understand how easy it can be. (not saying you) It's a very repeatable system without the variables associated with varying dirt composition.
ok we've derailed this thread enough.
good luck on your grows. Should I ever decide to make a dirt run I'd love to pick your brain as you seem to have a great model with impressive results.
Hi QCIndica. 1 pound is 454g so you just broke the 1gpw 'barrier'. How many plants did you have under your 430?
Anyone saying they get more than 1.4gpw from the real deal original one and only stinky as fuck Exodus Cheese is full of shit imho. It's not a big yielder at all, it lacks density and while it can get some quite big top colas, they weigh a lot less than an equivalent sized but dense cola from something such as NL.
Seen a lot of Cheese grows where people bang on about how stinky and great their fromage is but I see hugely deficient plants with brown dead leaf margins from phos. def. Good yields can be coaxed out of the Cheese but she is a huge phos. hog so needs to be fed PK like a foie gras duck - stick a funnel down it's bloody throat and feed it till it explodes!
There are other Cheese cuts or rather, cuts being passed round as Cheese, that yield way better, I can believe people have achieved higher than 1.4gpw with some of those, but not with the real Cheese.
QcIndica
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just 1 plant.....
