Hermies! Why does a female grow balls!

[Guest]

Ok fine....

Lets do a little experiment....

THis to do with feminized seeds....

The way soma makes his feminized seeds to to let his females go some extra weeks....

eventually many produce male flowers... he uses this on young female clones and voila....

soma has feminized seeds....

So in our discussion....

We had a plant we just loved.... and it was great grew thru harvest and not a male flower anywhere....

to produce feminized seeds all we need to do is dink with the lights and clones from that plant will produce male flowers?????

Ive been on a lot of boards and Ive not seen this done..... it would be awesome if its true....


or....

does this light leak thing only apply to seed plants?????

Good idea. Anyone up to the task, please post.



On the Sour Bubble Mom I had, It was an ALL female from seed and she was flowered and cut down. I took One clone from her which became my new mom 1st gen. I decided to take clones from this 1st generation clone but NO CLONES ROOTED! The 1st gen mom turned hermaphrodite Day 12 flower, I tried cutting all the pollen sacks but they were growing too close to the pistils that I would hurt the flowers when I cut the balls, So I got my knife and TIMBERRR! She got cut down. She produced the most resinous buds the first round. Well, the upside is that the first harvest produced some seeds( Sour Bubble BX3 * L.U.I.!!)

I also had a couple Blue moon rocks from seed. They were all next to the SB, Only 1 turned hermie. I will double check light leaks. This is the most probable culprit.

Peace

 

[Guest]

I no nothing about feminized seed...but I have 4 GH strawberry haze. And I have 0% chance for light leaks, so if I get a hermi...thats IT!

 

[Guest]

I don't believe in feminized seeds. Those plants are manipulated by man to produce all female seeds. I like mine all natural. And to get all female seeds you need a Hermie! Wouldn't that pass down the genetic traits to the seeds to produce MORE hermaphrodites?!

 

[mrwags]

I have had the same problem in my room. Plants side by side same cuts and one grows balls. Well mine was caused by the uncovered power light on my power strip (bright red fugger). I took some cuts from the one with balls cloned it put back in the same buckets during the same grow and got girls after of course I covered the light up.

I have no idea if this is your problem but can only share what I have seen.

If you stand in your room once it goes dark for 4-5 minutes your eyes will adjust and you can see the leaks much easier.

Mr.Wags

 

[Guest]

I don't believe in feminized seeds. Those plants are manipulated by man to produce all female seeds. I like mine all natural. And to get all female seeds you need a Hermie! Wouldn't that pass down the genetic traits to the seeds to produce MORE hermaphrodites?!

It sounds like it.
And if I get a hermi... I ll never get any more!
Just seeing what there like to be honest. I m just testin um out!
See whats the hubub, bub!

 

[Guest]

From nelsons book on cannabis.....


Photoperiodic control makes it possible to synchronize the flowering dates of male and female plants, thus making possible their cross-breeding. Most importantly, photoperiodic control enables breeders to stimulate the production of male flowers on female plants. Self-pollination can be accomplished only by means of such flowers. Male flowers on female hemp do not contain the Y (male) chromosome; they produce only female pollen. When this is used to fertilize female flowers on female plants, they will produce purely female seeds. The pollen from male flowers is of two kinds, and usually produces a ratio of males 1:1 females. A few viable seeds can be obtained from female flowers produced on male plants and self-pollinated, but such seeds are only weakly fertile and produce mostly female plants.

The following procedure will produce seeds which will grow 100% female hemp:

Cultivate two separate groups of female plants indoors. The plants should receive at least 50 watts of light per square foot of growing area. One group must not receive more than 7 hours of light daily. This will induce male flowers to manifest on the female plants. The second group of females must receive about 16 hours of light daily to ensure that no male flowers develop on them. The long photoperiod also inhibits the development of flowers so much that the short-day plants will mature 2 or 3 weeks before the long-day group. Therefore, begin cultivating the long-day females at least 2 weeks before planting the short-day plants.

 

[Guest]

I dont like that seven hour process,this is producing a hermie for fem seeds,what soma and DP does doesnt involve hermie plants.When you let a female go past her harvest,she may produce a couple male flowers for self-pollenation for survival of the species,this isnt a herm plant.Its a female plant that produced male parts for self survival.a hermie is a sexual deviant lol.There is a difference in what DP and soma does and using a hermaphrodactic plant.

 

[five0addict]

i have a feeling some plants are turned hermie easier than others, so keep it dark and it shouldnt be a problem.

 

[Guest]

It sounds like it.
And if I get a hermi... I ll never get any more!
Just seeing what there like to be honest. I m just testin um out!
See whats the hubub, bub!

Let me know how everything turns out.



Anyone else ever tried femmed seeds? Get any hermies? Please post.

 

[dre86]

Let me know how everything turns out.



Anyone else ever tried femmed seeds? Get any hermies? Please post.

I have grown Dutch Passions feminized MasterKush 3 times and once had a heavily seeded plant near end of flowering.. So 2 strong good females and 1 hermie...

 

[mrwags]

i have a feeling some plants are turned hermie easier than others, so keep it dark and it shouldnt be a problem.

Brand new member with the best advice yet! Well Said. Welcome Five and thank you.



Mr.Wags

 

[packn2puff]

This has been a long winded discussion for a long time..Genetics or light leaks and stresses..
I'm kinda on the fence but from what I've read, seen, and experienced..it seems like both may be right...
I think genetics effect the "tendency" factor..and light leaks and other stresses are triggers..some strains just have softer triggers..

Just a theory..don't be hate n'..hehe..

 

[Guest]

Well like I said before folks,its so easy to herm a plant using light manipulation that anyone can do it in a week or 10 days time,then you'll know firsthand how easy/hard certain strains are to hermie.Just start out flowering normally for a couple weeks then take a plant during dark hours and put it under a light for a couple hours then back into the darkness.Thats just one way there are a few that'll work its really simple to do.It's TOO easy matter of fact,for some strains anyway.I believe most herms are genetic but I also know how easy a plant can herm under the right conditions.As for "rodelization" lol as soma calls it the reason a hermie isnt involved here is because they take clones that they know are 100% female by growing out several "generations",then when they let it past its prime,the pollen collected has no male chromosome only female so its not pollen from a hermie plant.

 

[supermanlives]

its in the genes and anything can trigger it. a good strain wont herm easilly but very few are bulletproof. c99 is herm proof atleast in my experience

 

[Guest]

New to the forum but not new to genetics of humans or plants

New to the forum but not new to genetics of humans or plants

I agree with SKELETOR concerning most parts and so does the science. Almost all plants can go hermie but our favorite plant does it due to stress. Plants are "born" with male or female designation, once the two DNAs mesh. Nature has built in an escape hatch so that in the likely situation a seed is germed too late (no water when there usually in water in the spring), or the weather is really off (volcanos etc. effect weather and length of day), or other unusual occurance, the plant deploys emergency measure to ensure its continued survival, genetically. This has made sure, in part, marijuana is here today

You may think everything was the same but nothing is ever exactly the same. Just one variable you never thought of changes everything. A fungus that doesn't show, a virus (yes plants get them and just like us sometimes you never know by looking at them that they do), dust with different constituants,etc.

The point is the reason plants do it more often when cultivated is because they are in an un-natural environment, even if outside.

Any way I enjoyed reading the discussion. Thanks all and PEACE

 

[Guest]

Let me give one example where being a hermi might simply be part of the survival plan in a perfectly ordinary year....

One type hermi we get is the preflower variety.... first thing the plant does is to produce male flower and the plant has just a few pistils which may get pollinated...

The plant is also spreading those genes around and these will be the first seeds to mature.....

The plant grows out of the hermi habit (ive had plants that outgrew the hermi thing after a few preflowers) then produces a lot of seeds thru normal pollenation.... the seeds fall and the vast majority came from normal male female reproduction... but a few are from the hermi pollen....


In a very cold year.... perhaps the plants die early.... and many of the normal seeds never mature.... since the pollenation occurs later....


this leaves a higher percent of the seeds as hermies.....

So the survival of the species may have depended on hermaphroditism in a normal year..... because if an early winter comes.... too late.....

Thai weed is almost always hermi.... and the weather is perfect there...

sativas(tropical plant) in general have a higher incidence of hermaphroditism....

 

[Guest]

So let me continue on with the thought....


Lets say for the sake of argument that the natural plan is that some early hermi seeds should be made.... these would be vastly outnumbered when the real males did their thing.....

so the incidence of hermaphroditism is kept fairly low....


If on the other hand we bring the plants indoors and kill all the males....


those darned plants still want to produce those hermi flowers and we get just a few seeds....


but just like in winter by managing our plants by killing the males we, ourselves encourage the trait.....

"Man I found this kickass weed.... it even has a few seeds"

"plant em man"


lol....

 

[dre86]

its in the genes and anything can trigger it. a good strain wont herm easilly but very few are bulletproof. c99 is herm proof atleast in my experience

hmmm I just harvested my Femaleseeds C99 plant and I found 1 (mature) seed on it

 

[Guest]

I have grown Dutch Passions feminized MasterKush 3 times and once had a heavily seeded plant near end of flowering.. So 2 strong good females and 1 hermie...

Did that one hermie get any stress or light leaks? Or did it hermie ALL NATURAL?



If you have grown all femal seeds. Did you get any hermies? Anyone, please post! Would like to get plenty of info on this for everyone. Thx!

Peace

 

[Weed_Seed]

Kov, I totally know what you mean.

My buddies plants have been in and out of the grow box, lights have been turned on n off randomly. He doesnt even use a timer for fucks sake he just unplugs at night and plugs it in in the morning.

If there isnt a strict lighting secdual I think the plants adapt