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Hermaphrodite offspring

mudballs

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You can have a triploid and it not be a trifoliate, and you can have a trifoliate and it not be triploid...that's how i started learning genetic shit...i got roasted over on overgrow when i first started messing with trifoliates, didn't understand and called it a triploid...they lit me up lol
 

Fuel

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That's not a polyploid fuel, it's just a quad.

You're seeing the code like Neo buddy, I can't arg.
I wasn't aware too that triploids have an unique expression when they mutate like shit, everyday a new discover.

Another one less old, because ... still not enough plants in this discussion.

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I know perfectly the rate of colchicine she took, but now i lost my shit i no longer know how to call it. Wait "quad-turbo ayabusa" ^^
 
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GMT

The Tri Guy
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Oh hang on then, if you are playing with colchicine, I may need to correct myself. Like Mud said, the quad thing is irrelevant to the tetraploid thing. Upon seeing something with multiple additional branches per node I see the lea13 gene in abundance, however if you are playing with magic, then whether it be a bi, tri, quad or even fasciated, then it may well in fact ALSO be a tetraploid (polyploid). You need some iodine, a microscope, and glass slides. It's the only way to know for sure. I'm so used to the whole "it's got 3 branches therefore it's a triploid" thing I just give the standard response now. "No it isn't"
After a colchicine shot, it actually might be what you said it is.
Next time you go to a big city, pop to the biology dept of any uni, and find a kid to look for you? I'd cut a small square out of a leaf, and just take that without identifying what plant it came from.
 

mudballs

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That's why i kept harping on about XXY and variants, and how Y material is so small that upon mixing, so much is going on with so few 'quanta' or data chain (aka chromosome) irregardless of females length of code...natural genetics in cannabis can do...(clears throat) ...magic, as you say.
 

blondie

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Interesting discussion this thread turned into. The MM I do believe is also Thai background. The good news is the plant I think hermed on me is the strongest plant I’ve grown in a good long time. Hopefully some of that will make its way to the ka5h. I’ve also got about 5-6 oz in the freezer of the suspected herm plant. (Ka5h x (mm x hz21)) . Will be looking for seeds in that also. Of the two cross plants I grew, one was hazey, other was more malawi-ish. Lots more seeds of the cross. Actually seeded two different ka5h phenos with the mm hz pollen.
 

mudballs

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I'm not a sativa specialist or haze connoisseur ...but i knew to pay attention to haze/sativa growers...you cats know shit
 

Fuel

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I've other plants to show, thousands. We can even make it entertaining eventually, i'm now very curious to see your genetic engineering on triploids. It's not a process that ask skills, but simply luck on what you're generating. I teach you nothing, right ?

In the country i'm living, the "big city" is the last location you will visit to meet geneticists works. It's the reverse, sometimes you even have to walk. I swear.
 

GMT

The Tri Guy
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Again, without using colchicine, no one is getting tetraploids from their normal plants. Well, maybe once every million years or so someone may get one in a field. But realistically, it's not happening in our tents naturally. And no one is getting triploids either.
That's why I said , if there's colchicine involved, I stand corrected, but not otherwise.

I should also add, I have never used colchicine. My Tri line does not stand for triploids, but rather tri-foliars, ie. 3 leaves. They are diploids, as are my quads and my pents and my fasciated plants. They are all XX or XY.

@blondie the selfed buds are far more likely to contain more Hermies than the outcrossed seeds. In fact if I'm right, you may even find a few in the selfed bud, that some could mistakenly call males. All balls no pistils. However as we know, they will still be girls.
 

mudballs

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Isnt capulators MAC a natural triploid? ...really? We gotta do this? I've seen a study done, guy tested several strains, found natural triploids...your obstinate posturing constantly off the mark is grating
 

GMT

The Tri Guy
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Bullshitters hype bullshit, esp where money is involved. If someone's telling you an unrealistic story, and is making money out of telling it, be very wary. However, I was called into this thread by you mud, so I came. I'm just as happy to not contribute, and leave you to believe in the gods your priests are collecting money for.
 

mudballs

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Bullshitters hype bullshit, esp where money is involved. If someone's telling you an unrealistic story, and is making money out of telling it, be very wary. However, I was called into this thread by you mud, so I came. I'm just as happy to not contribute, and leave you to believe in the gods your priests are collecting money for.
Saying we wont see triploids undermines any credibility with me and i will be vocal about it
 

Fuel

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I'm still open to an entertaining manner to dig the question, we still don't talk about a DNA scissor damned hell. It's as simple that making fems, a banal farmer's tech. I've the impression that talking about triploids is like transforming the water in wine wtf lol
 

GMT

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Saying we wont see triploids undermines any credibility with me and i will be vocal about it
...still hate trifoliates tho lol...couldn't pay me to work with them again
It's a pity that you would take the road of saying I don't have any credibility. I do try to represent my thoughts accurately, and put time into formulating them. You may disagree with me, but a reasoned position, laid out clearly, tends to carry more weight than an unjustified insult. I try to do both with style 😎.

For instance : [clears throat]
I understand your reluctance to work with trifoliar lines, to do so requires a certain level of knowledge.

You do realise that stabilising the trifoliar trait, in breeding terms, is the equivalence of increasing or even maintaining the psychoactive compounds present in any line. By studying the mathematics of gene count inheritance, you gain an understanding that Mendelian biology never conceived of.
 

mudballs

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Yeah that's argumentative. Objection sustained, ur honor I'd like to recess...we appreciate ur call but you have reached us away from our desk..
 

mudballs

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Why are you surprised by this GMT? ...maybe you don't have the knowledge you want to strut around with?.. I mean...i knew this was possible long ago. You are telling all these people you have great knowledge, wanna diss me, but i was right, and instead of acknowledging that, you attack my knowledge? ...I'm responding not to start a fight, but rather to show others you ain't all that, especially if that post surprised you
 

GMT

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Hey, I was asked for my input, I gave it, just like everyone else here and in other threads. If someone else is wrong I help them, if I don't have any input, I say so, if I'm guessing, i make it clear. But it seems if you disagree with the masses these days, they chant cancel him, and bring out the pitch forks and torches.
So you knew something about this did you? You bullshit artist. THE FIRST EVER DISCOVERED!!
But you knew. Ok, why didn't you explain it to the world and earn your PhD? Or better yet, why have you still not explained it? Oh because you're too busy trying to insult me? Ok, carry on kid, but don't come to me begging for something to be explained again. You follow your false profits to the promised land. And pay them what they ask for to secure your place in fairytale land. I'm too busy for you now.

How do I use this ignore function again...
 
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