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ray7

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hey y'all !!!

i m planning on building a 2m by 2m by 2.5m growspace with two 400 watt hps ,passive air intake with a 5 or 6 inch extractor fan...this is basically for a scrog op any ideas on how to make the ultimate grow room?
 

Stoogots

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With 2*400w you can cover basically just 1m*2m....and you don't cover all the space
If you want to fill 2m*2m you need at least 4*400w

...Just to give you an idea....the footprint of a discharge bulb.

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:tiphat:
 

Granger2

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Ray,
Do the math. This is basic. Your room is about 6'x6'. That's 36 sq ft. 800w divided by 36=22.2 w/sq ft. Woefully inadequate. Less than half what you need. The magic number of minimum light is 50w/sq ft. So that's 50x36=1800w. Good luck. -granger
 

packerfan79

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I ran 2 1k in that space pretty much wall to wall plants, just 1 corner with a fan, and one corner for an ac during summer. 24 plants lst'd to keep a short even canopy.
 

ray7

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I ran 2 1k in that space pretty much wall to wall plants, just 1 corner with a fan, and one corner for an ac during summer. 24 plants lst'd to keep a short even canopy.

exactly wat i needed :laughing:...is a 6" extractor fan enough with passive intake enough or overkill?
 

Stoogots

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Ray,
Do the math. This is basic. Your room is about 6'x6'. That's 36 sq ft. 800w divided by 36=22.2 w/sq ft. Woefully inadequate. Less than half what you need. The magic number of minimum light is 50w/sq ft. So that's 50x36=1800w. Good luck. -granger

Mmmh....I agree, but....have you ever used last generation bulbs?.... I mean 400v EL or DE? It's not the same.. :biggrin:
 

tbk

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With more light you will probably get more bud, but you can still grow a lot with 2 x 400w. Personally I use 2 x 600w for 1,3x3m, and getting just around 1 gpw. Maybe try to check out the foot print of adjust a wings ore something similar.
A quick calculation of my room gives me 30 ish w/sq feet. Yield of Illicit Indoor Cannabis Cultivation in The Netherlands (Toonen 2006) reports that's 38 out of 77 illegal busted Dutch grow rooms contained less than 50 w/sq foot.
http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com.ez.statsbiblioteket.dk:2048/doi/10.1111/j.1556-4029.2006.00228.x/abstract;jsessionid=1DB2C584C1C8A1FB02D8C49AFCC5114E.f04t03
I don’t like square grow rooms with adjust a wings, due to the recommended footprint being rectangular. Is 2x2 m the whole space you have available or is just for the plants? On the long run I think some work space will be appreciated if the 2x2 m is all you got.

About heat this all depends on the environment you a located in and how many watts you are using. I use a basement with a generally low temp(10-20 degrees with no grow in it) and lives in Northern Europe. I use an 800 m^3/hour 5 inch duct exhaust and I think this is an absolute minimum. Besides the bulbs I use a small dehumidifier using 240w, and 2 to 3 40w ventilators for air circulation. In my room I have to identical homemade tents(a total of 4 x 600w bulbs, 2 dehumidifiers and 5-6 ventilators). For this I have en active intake of 200-300 m^3/hour(an old random one I used back in the days so don’t know the exact number, but its small). The intake is from outside and into the room. From the room into the tents it’s all passive.

I'm no growing Good or guru just trying jo keep it simple and fairly cheap - not to much gear and no snake oil ferts/additives.
Check my grow log i you want to see the setup in action https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=268892
 

ray7

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With more light you will probably get more bud, but you can still grow a lot with 2 x 400w. Personally I use 2 x 600w for 1,3x3m, and getting just around 1 gpw. Maybe try to check out the foot print of adjust a wings ore something similar.
A quick calculation of my room gives me 30 ish w/sq feet. Yield of Illicit Indoor Cannabis Cultivation in The Netherlands (Toonen 2006) reports that's 38 out of 77 illegal busted Dutch grow rooms contained less than 50 w/sq foot.
http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com.ez.statsbiblioteket.dk:2048/doi/10.1111/j.1556-4029.2006.00228.x/abstract;jsessionid=1DB2C584C1C8A1FB02D8C49AFCC5114E.f04t03
I don’t like square grow rooms with adjust a wings, due to the recommended footprint being rectangular. Is 2x2 m the whole space you have available or is just for the plants? On the long run I think some work space will be appreciated if the 2x2 m is all you got.

About heat this all depends on the environment you a located in and how many watts you are using. I use a basement with a generally low temp(10-20 degrees with no grow in it) and lives in Northern Europe. I use an 800 m^3/hour 5 inch duct exhaust and I think this is an absolute minimum. Besides the bulbs I use a small dehumidifier using 240w, and 2 to 3 40w ventilators for air circulation. In my room I have to identical homemade tents(a total of 4 x 600w bulbs, 2 dehumidifiers and 5-6 ventilators). For this I have en active intake of 200-300 m^3/hour(an old random one I used back in the days so don’t know the exact number, but its small). The intake is from outside and into the room. From the room into the tents it’s all passive.

I'm no growing Good or guru just trying jo keep it simple and fairly cheap - not to much gear and no snake oil ferts/additives.
Check my grow log i you want to see the setup in action https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=268892

i actually have enough space 6m*8m...
 

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