help with hermaphradites

[northernkush]

God damned hermies!!!!

I'm not sure why I'm thinking my timer was slightly off or maybe it was the big drop in night time temps in the room but regardless the crop all.has seeds. There are still huge buds and great smoke but man that pisses me off.

My question is are these seeds good seeds or are they going to be hermies as well?

 

[Green Supreme]

Chances are they will be inter sexed too. Tasty though I bet. Peace GS

 

[supermanlives]

happened to me too in one of my grows. sucks but my buddy is excited

 

[northernkush]

Thanks green supreme bad news but at least I know what to expect.

Do you think that the plants that are in veg stage that have the same temp problems may be hermie before I even put them to flower?

 

[Nader]

Thanks green supreme bad news but at least I know what to expect.

Do you think that the plants that are in veg stage that have the same temp problems may be hermie before I even put them to flower?

I doubt it, but there's no surefire way of knowing. If your bloom room is pitch-black at 'night' , then I doubt it's due to the temp fluctuations unless they get intensely burning hot during the day. A decent drop in night-time temps has helped me more than hurt me, so I don't think that's the cause.

Did you see male flowers for sure? If so, then there might be something else entirely that is stressing out your girls, if your room is indeed pitch-black at night.

 

[Hoover_lungz]

Thanks green supreme bad news but at least I know what to expect.

Do you think that the plants that are in veg stage that have the same temp problems may be hermie before I even put them to flower?

Did this happen from standard seeds or feminised??

 

[señorsloth]

turn of all the lights in the room that your grow is in, if you can see even the faintest glow coming from the tiniest crack in whatever your growing in well thats your problem.

true hermies make hermie seeds, true hermie meaning a plant that has both male and female flowers even when grown stress free, usually there are quite a few flowers, and in larger bundles than stress hermies. personally i think stress hermies are different, if you just get a few male flowers and a few seeds due to a small light leak or excessive defoliation, you generally don't see hermies in those seeds, as long as you removed the source of stress that caused those few bananas on the parent.

 

[sumo]

I have had many plants hermie late in flower. I think some strains just do that. It is the plants last chance at reproduction. However late in flower is too late to cause seeds. But I have done a continuous flower thing with plants in different stages and even then hermies didn't cause many seeds, like two or three seeds found total. Also any seed from a female pollinated plant is female, like where is the male chromosome in an all female grow. Lesbian sex no? Light leaks? There is a lot of light on earth at night. During a full moon, lightning,northern lights, and city light pollution. Lightproof your grow but it is as much to protect light from escaping and being seen as it is to keep light out.

 

[Budley Doright]

I generally disagree with the concept that stress causes hermies...


IMO genetics cause hermies....

One big problem for Northernkush is that he has apparently missed the male flowers responsible for the seeds....


There are in fact two types of hermies in cannabis....


This is a biological thing not canna specific....


The first type is the perfect hermie....

The perfect refers to the flowers.... that is some flowers have male and female bits in the same flower....


the imperfect type mean the plant has both male and female flowers on the plant but they are seperate....


Some plant will get some male flowers at the bottom of the plant....then are female thereafter.... these are the imperfect type..... and the most likely to cause lots of seeds....


the other type ... which are often called nanners.... often cause no seeds....


The reason you get hermies is not due to a small light leak its due almost entirely due to genetics......


Plants which show no male flowers in their first cycle will rarely show any male flowers in cycles to come......light leaks or not.....


Indicating that genetics are most important in expression of the trait....not environment.....

 

[Elsweeto]

On the light leak thing I've heard all this pitch black messing but my veg cab keeps my room slightly lit all the time and I don't get hermies; it has happened but just with one strain not all of them. This leads me to believe it strain dependant rather than light.

 

[Budley Doright]

On the light leak thing I've heard all this pitch black messing but my veg cab keeps my room slightly lit all the time and I don't get hermies; it has happened but just with one strain not all of them. This leads me to believe it strain dependant rather than light.

Let me ask you this....

If you had those plants that hermied in your environment....

Might they have turned hermie if they were in pitch black????


I have never been careful at all about light leaks....


I have lights in two adjoining rooms....

I use a door off its hinges to block the door...

but its tilted and there would be lots of light around the doorway....


I get a few hermies like everyone.... but certainly no more than that.... and never from clones....

 

[Green Supreme]

Hermies are not created by the problems, it is a tendency in the genetics of the plant. Some may grow the same plant for years and never have hermie issues. Does this mean the plant has no hermie tendencies, I think not. Feminized and hermie seed are accidents waiting to happen. Good luck. Peace GS

ps. friends don't give friends hermie beans

 

[Budley Doright]

Im quite interested in hermies....


one thing that I find very few instances where ....


a plant that didnt hermie thru the first flowering later hermies after some number of cycles....



its very rare....

 

[Elsweeto]

No the plants that hermied spent there veg time in pure peat in my brothers garden, add high acidity to the good old Irish summer (I don't remember what the sun looks like) and you've got a stressed lady (she wasn't a true hermie) light has little to do with it.
Having said that I time my veg light so it does not come on at "night", this is because I have a theory that its a pulse of light that could cause a problem even though I've not seen it happen.

 

[northernkush]

I have gotten two shipments of seeds.
PPP, bubba kush and lifesaver all from gypsy.

Then i got trainwreck, super lemon haze and jack herer straight from a coffee shop in amsterdam.

I have done three runs and have had some plants hermie and others that didn't. At first I thought it was the nirvana seeds. Now that the super lemon and herer have hermied I'm sure its something i have done. There is basically no light going in the room.

All the seeds are feminised. I really want to figure this out as I spent a lot of money for these seeds and my patients dont want to get seeds in their herb.

 

[Elsweeto]

Listen man I've only got a few posts but I'm a major lurker on here I think there is some extremely irresponsible breeding going on, (to the extant that I've seen a professional breeder get 75% herm rate on a popular strain from the original breeder, I can't say who because I'll probably get banned but think chemical canine and you'll get it). Its probably not your fault in my opinion. Where your seeds fem?

 

[Budley Doright]

I agree I think breeders have convinced folks that its their fault for hermies...

I would be very careful about feminized seeds.... as they are likely more likely to be herms...


IMO you are still looking for a female which does not hermie thru its first flowering as a mother....


If you chose non feminized seeds you get some males which you throw away....


with feminized you probably have to discard more hermies....


There is no free lunch I guess.....

 

[Elsweeto]

As I see it with regular seeds you choose the best male/female and make the next batch little money spent and after that its free.

Fem seeds are just a way for seed companies to guarantee continuing returns.

Buy regular buy once.

 

[Avinash.miles]

just about everyone has a seed company these days, of course there are some shenanigans concerning hermie seeds....
so ya
funny thing
best to keep your room completely dark one way or the other, whether lite leaks cause hermies or not.
finding that cut of a strain that wont hermie from genetics or stress is the real work of growing cannabis, i believe.

 

[Red Fang]

God damned hermies!!!!

I'm not sure why I'm thinking my timer was slightly off or maybe it was the big drop in night time temps in the room but regardless the crop all.has seeds. There are still huge buds and great smoke but man that pisses me off.

My question is are these seeds good seeds or are they going to be hermies as well?

yeah man without reading more than your opening post, I feel for you as I have recently gone though something similar. Several hermies, most were not but those that were lightly seeded every plant with 10 or more seeds! we had a power outage where the plants were without light for 24 hours plus before we got a generator, there were 2 or 3 days where they lost out on 2-4 hours of light in the room when they were all moved out to make room for room modifications, and then 2-4 times where they went over 1/2 to 1 1/2 hour over their flowering schedule. better luck next time for both of us! peace