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Help, This one is a tuff one

MynameStitch

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Do not top her yet, let her recover first, the plant won't grow when the roots have been stressed out. You need to let them start regrowing roots and then the plant will start to grow.

Ehh, I don't know what did you use the saw on?
You use it on other plants before? lol

Hopefully it will be alright, the superthrive should fix it and help it fight any stuff that may have been on it if any at all.
It's just safer to make sure things are clean when it involves directly touching the root system like that.

Chances are it will be alright as long as it was not used to hack down other plants or something.

How much superthrive did you water her with? water/mixture ratio?
 

dr_green

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MynameStitch said:
Do not top her yet, let her recover first, the plant won't grow when the roots have been stressed out. You need to let them start regrowing roots and then the plant will start to grow.

Ehh, I don't know what did you use the saw on?
You use it on other plants before? lol

Hopefully it will be alright, the superthrive should fix it and help it fight any stuff that may have been on it if any at all.
It's just safer to make sure things are clean when it involves directly touching the root system like that.

Chances are it will be alright as long as it was not used to hack down other plants or something.

How much superthrive did you water her with? water/mixture ratio?


I gave her about an eighth of a teaspoon. I hope that's not to much.........
 

MynameStitch

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How often were you giving your plants the amount of superthrive?

Normally you are supposed to use 1 or 2 drops per GALLON of water........

It's extremely potent that superthrive is and cannabis does not require that all the time, only in certain situations.
Nutrients cannot work together properly with a buildup of superthrive is present.

They are starting to look a lot better now it seems, they have perked up!
The leaves that are curled under will be the last to recover if they ever do, depending on how long they were like that they may just stay that way and eventually turn necrotic due to the cell structure in the leaf dying.
 

dr_green

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MynameStitch said:
How often were you giving your plants the amount of superthrive?

Normally you are supposed to use 1 or 2 drops per GALLON of water........

It's extremely potent that superthrive is and cannabis does not require that all the time, only in certain situations.
Nutrients cannot work together properly with a buildup of superthrive is present.

They are starting to look a lot better now it seems, they have perked up!
The leaves that are curled under will be the last to recover if they ever do, depending on how long they were like that they may just stay that way and eventually turn necrotic due to the cell structure in the leaf dying.

I only fed her that one time I transplanted her. That was the only time I gave her the Superthrive. I don't plan on using it again, unless you suggest to use it again. She hasn't recovered fully but I think her roots are growing already in the new soil.

I was going to use half potency of nutes. I'm running Fox Farm Tiger Bloom and Big Bloom. Should I be using Grow Big instead of Tiger Bloom? I just thought that once you see any type of flowering then, you should use Tiger Bloom.
But anyhow, I was thinking of also adding some 3% H2O2 for some air for her roots. good idea?

The leaveas that were curled under were like that for a while already, that's why I was wondering if I should chop it off. But I will wait till she recover's a lot more.

When do you think I should start flowering her? I was thinking about 2 weeks after her recovery, or do you think I should veg her out some more?

thanks Stitch
 

MynameStitch

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Yes, since she is in veg use the grow big, save the tiger bloom for flowering.

You can add some h202 to the roots, but is your mixture organic? If not I would not add it to it if it's organic.

Ya, during those 2 weeks the plant should be fully recovered and ready for flowering :yes:

That way you have her time to absorb nutrients and she can be ready to store nutrients for flowering; cause you want her to get as much nitrogen as possible for now, since it was deficient from being rootbound; you want the plant to have enough stored nitrogen to last up until near harvest time.

Also for the first week of flowering do not use bloom ferts, use grow big and then switch over after 7 days of flowering; this will also help ensure the plant has enough nitrogen.
 

dr_green

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MynameStitch said:
Yes, since she is in veg use the grow big, save the tiger bloom for flowering.

You can add some h202 to the roots, but is your mixture organic? If not I would not add it to it if it's organic.

Ya, during those 2 weeks the plant should be fully recovered and ready for flowering :yes:

That way you have her time to absorb nutrients and she can be ready to store nutrients for flowering; cause you want her to get as much nitrogen as possible for now, since it was deficient from being rootbound; you want the plant to have enough stored nitrogen to last up until near harvest time.

Also for the first week of flowering do not use bloom ferts, use grow big and then switch over after 7 days of flowering; this will also help ensure the plant has enough nitrogen.

Thanks I'll use grow big and big bloom together, and not use the h2o2 because I'm using Fox Farm Ocean Forrest Organic Mix.

I was just wondering, I got a moisture meter and the meter goes from 1 to 10, ranging from 10 to 7 is wet, 6 to 4, is moist, and 3 to 0 is dry. I was just wondering when do I water her, since she just had the overwatering? I don't want to overwater her again, so I can progress and put her in the flowering stage. Only thing on the upper part of the pot the soil is moist, but on the bottom the soil is still wet at 8.5. Shall I wait still yet to water? Only thing I'm worried about is that the root ball that is on the top, might get dried out, when waiting for the pot to dry out. Confused on how to deal with this situation.......

Also when I'm watering her, I make sure that the top soil is moist and that some water seeps out from the bottom(not a lot, but some?). Is this how to water her?

Shall I give her half strength or quarter strength nutes from the Fox Farm directions? Since it's a little on the strong side. thanks stitch!!!





 

MynameStitch

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use one or the other, do not use them combined, this wil end up using too much.....


use grow big at 1/2 teaspoon per gallon to start out with and after a week increase it to 1 tsp per gallon and leave it at that for a bit.

I would not use moisture meters, because they don't get down deep enough sometimes and it can contribute to overwatering, not to mention it can disturb root growth. SO I would always tell people the best way is to lift your pots before a water to get the feel of when they need water and after they are watered to know how heavy they are after a good water.

When you lift the pot when there is still a little water left, you will know not to water when you lift it up.

Yes, the watering method you are doing when a little comes out the bottom is fine, this is correct as long as the plant has settled in the pot and the soil.

A lot of times a soil may be fluffy and the water will run right down to the bottom, so you always got to watch how the water is absorbed on the top, if it soaks it in evenly you know the water is being absorbed right, but if there is air bubbles comes up you know you will have to soak it a little better.....

ALso this is why you want them in the correct pot size, if you where to water them like that with wrong pot size that is how you contribute to overwatering.
 

dr_green

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MynameStitch said:
use one or the other, do not use them combined, this wil end up using too much.....


use grow big at 1/2 teaspoon per gallon to start out with and after a week increase it to 1 tsp per gallon and leave it at that for a bit.

I would not use moisture meters, because they don't get down deep enough sometimes and it can contribute to overwatering, not to mention it can disturb root growth. SO I would always tell people the best way is to lift your pots before a water to get the feel of when they need water and after they are watered to know how heavy they are after a good water.

When you lift the pot when there is still a little water left, you will know not to water when you lift it up.

Yes, the watering method you are doing when a little comes out the bottom is fine, this is correct as long as the plant has settled in the pot and the soil.

A lot of times a soil may be fluffy and the water will run right down to the bottom, so you always got to watch how the water is absorbed on the top, if it soaks it in evenly you know the water is being absorbed right, but if there is air bubbles comes up you know you will have to soak it a little better.....

ALso this is why you want them in the correct pot size, if you where to water them like that with wrong pot size that is how you contribute to overwatering.


Holy shit, good catch. I don't want to burn my plant with nutes. Yes Grow Big is going to be fed on the next watering. Shall I be using 1/4 teaspoon since the Fox Farm Nutes are strong? Or do I give her 1/2 teaspoon. I know the Fox Farm Recommendation says to give 1 teaspoon per gallon. But, I heard that from a whole lot of people on this forum that the Fox Farm nutes are on the strong side.

Yeah I wasn't really found of using the PH/moisture meter because my root growth for my plants are really big due to the CMH bulb I use. So everytime I stick in the probes, I feel some times that I am crunching roots and sounds like roots that I'm going right through them. So I think I'm going to try and perfect the lift and check method. But is ok to water even if the bottom of the pot is moist still yet? Would that be overwatering her again? The top soil is starting to dry up that's why.

Also my clones are in peat pellets and I still have the netting on them. Should I take them off because the roots are coming out already?
 
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